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To our readers:
We the mods of KCFTP wanted to say, we hope you are all doing well during this trying and dark times in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. We are praying to the Netjeru for healing and health and hope you are all taking precautions to stay safe and healthy. We are with you all. Dua Netjeru.
-The Mods
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Why does the Tumblr Kemetic community dislike Osiris?
We would like to remind you Devo often expresses such a degrading image of Osiris in a dirty creepy kidnapper van, and has done so for years. Their followers have adopted these views as with most of her influences. We are frankly, sick of them spreading such vile drivel. We understand there is mirth and good humor to make regarding the gods, but this can be done tastefully without regarding one of the gods as essentially a child abductor. -Memphis
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I see that Devo has returned YET AGAIN to the community they hate and is now slandering Wesir. If they dislike him so much now and don't trust the netjeru, why stay in the community and continue to spread misinformation as if the community was not already plagued with misinformation? I just feel bad for them at this point but I also wish that they would leave the community alone. If you think Wesir dislikes you, perhaps it's because of the atrocious things you say about him.
We would like to state that Devo is a creature fueled entirely by spite and attention. They love being spiteful and spreading their hate for the gods and eagerness to remove them from our religion. We wish they would just leave and find a religion that actually fulfills them instead of trying to punish the devout for believing. -Memphis
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I found your blog while browsing Tumblr and I feel so relieved. I have not had a Tumblr in a while, but I check in now and then. I want to tell you the story of what Devo, Satsekhem, and their “friends” did to me.
I remember when Devo first came into the Kemetic community. She said she knew nothing of Kemeticism, but wanted to learn. Less than a month later, she proclaimed that Set had chosen her to be the leader of all the Kemetics and it was her job to gather them up under her. She went around to various social media spaces and pagan forums to recruit members for her group.
I ignored her. I had grown up in the Fundamentalist Baptist church where I saw a lot of people make the “I’m the chosen one and you must follow me” claim. I knew these kind of people were full of shit, lying to get attention and stroke their own egos.
A lot of people ate this shit up. Others rebuffed her approaches and she called them “mean.“ She said she “building community” and “boat paddling,” but she was demonizing people who didn’t join her group, calling them stupid and disgusting and lots of other things.
Then she noticed me and she began this…creepy obsession with me. It was weird. She expressed hatred for me, but at the same time, she wanted me to join her group and fawn over her. I would not respond to her messages or reblogs. She saw this as mean, abusive behavior on my part.
Her behavior escalated from snooty comments to online stalking. She even harassed one of my online friends, who was not even Kemetic and had nothing to do with her. I moved my blog and she followed, claiming that I destroying the community she had so carefully crafted, basically by posting opinions that are different from hers.
The harassment escalated. She put me on some sort of blacklist and no one was allowed to talk to me or mention my name. I was shocked that everyone fell into line and no one questioned this blacklist or any of her claims such as being elected the queen of all the Kemetics by Set. Everything seemed so bizarre and unreal, as if I had stepped into an alternate universe.
I want to say that at this point, I had not said anything to her or the other Kemetic Fandom ringleaders. Then they said nasty things to me, like that they made a request to the gods to ruin my life, and they felt sorry that the gods had a devotee like me. I snapped, posting a string of curse words aimed at Devo and telling her to get the fuck off my blog.
I shouldn’t have done it because I gave them exactly what they wanted. They were intentionally goading me into snapping so they could “prove” that I was an evil, community- destroying bitch. Devo whipped up her followers into dogpiling me on her behalf. I got dox threats, death threats, and creepy messages like “you should be glad that we don’t give you what really deserve.“ Fearing for my physical safety, I deleted my blog and they had a giant circle jerk, congratulating themselves on “taking the trash out.”
Later Devo and Satsekhem edited their post and reblogs of my posts to make me look nasty and themselves heroes who were just trying to be my friend. Devo claimed that if I ever apologized to her, she would let me back in the community…a community I had never been a part of.
I have never blogged publicly since because I genuinely fear they might find me and carry out one of their threats hurt me.
In the end, I was baffled as to why this could go on without anyone saying something. Why were they cheering the bullies on, and a why a big chunk of the online community would buy into Devo’s bizarre claims and not notice her blatant hypocrisy.
Anon, this mod wishes to express their sincerest sorrow. We would like to say your story (with the exception of some of the hunting down in real life stuff) is legion in this community, all those who express differing opinions that do not agree of these peoples venomous ideological rhetorics, received the same treatments. We are deeply saddened and horrified by the sheer cruelty they express as they lash out demanding subservience and being surprised when it is not given. You are welcomed on our blog Anon and here, you are safe. This mod hopes your story sheds light to all left in the community to see the truth and how vile, sadistic, and vindictive these people are.
–Memphis
I’m so sorry this happened to you, anon. If it’s any consolation, you’re not alone. There are many people who have been bullied by Devo, Satsekhem, and other SJW Kemetics. We here at KCFTP have observed that theirs is a highly toxic community. If you don’t follow their beliefs to the letter, you’re chastised as a bigot of some kind. Even those in their ranks aren’t safe. Don’t give in to them, and don’t give up. People who treat others this way are in all reality insecure, miserable people. Whether or not you choose to blog again, may you live in peace and be well!
- Karnak
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Hey, a friend of mine got a reblog from a Tumblr that's mixing Nazi stuff with kemetic and occult symbolism. The URL is kkscript. Can you spread awareness to people know to look out for it? Thanks!
Thank you anon for informing us! After some recon, we agree this is a blog to avoid. We’d like to encourage and recommend all our readers to keep an eye out for it and add it to your block lists.
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I was going through your archives and saw that Devo said the Netjeru are evil parasites who depend on humans to survive, and they use humans as slaves. Does this mean that the Netjeru are secretly the Goa'uld from Stargate?
uhm…Rofl, no, just that Devo is wrong. –Cairo
This mod wishes to add that Devo is, usually 90% wrong. -Memphis
My guess would be that Devo is watching too much Stargate, and not enough study or prayer! -Karnak
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To our readers...
We here at KCFTP realize we’re really behind on posting lately, life has been busy for most of us We apologize rest assured we have received all your comments and asks and will answer them!
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Hey, good to see you! What is your take on the content issue, if I may ask?
This mod would like to comment that we have seen many posts going around about the ‘content issue’. We would like to commend some of those we have seen urging content creators to create worthwhile content. However we sadly must also agree with the voices saying this is difficult because the content creators who gave us well documented research as labors of love, have been disinclined to continue sharing them. We would like to state that we agree these content creators were abused and demeaned as “shitty content creators for x-thought crime” as the social justice kemetics label and malign them. We are saddened they have given up, but we understand why.
We would like to submit that attacking the knowledgeable content creators and chasing them away was perhaps a shortsighted strategy for communal longevity.
-Mod Memphis
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I am so glad the social justice bloggers never found out that I'm bi.
We would like to say we are sorry you have been in any way persecuted for being bisexual, we personally do not understand why this would be a problem in this day and age. We at KCFTP welcome all sexualities and orientations on this blog.
-The Mods
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A Lie As Old As Time
We here at the KCFTP pride ourselves on providing a voice to the members of the community who aren’t a niche group of loud screeching monkeys as our counterparts. We have been made aware of the following post provided to us and we see that the lies are being peddled once again. While we try to stay out of political discussion not centered around the community, we must comment that much of what the social justice kemetics spread are myths, myths that have been debated and debunked by many political minded individuals over the last few years. They keep spreading the same lies and misinformation to demonize and dehumanize all dissents of their opinions. This is a common tactic to silence and poison any wells of discussion preemptively.
This post produced by Satsekhem is such a hate piece. We provide the link for perusal here: XX
This mod would like to state in particular that content creators have spoken out, they have commented, they have produced works for the community and the social justice kemetics attacked them. The motivations have ranged between being challenged by displays of piety to extremely exaggerated fabrications. We would like to mention, they have worked hard to demonize and slander all of these valuable resources and intelligent individuals for the sake of not being agreeing to their political screeds, while promoting their own purity. They have lied to everyone multiple times in effort to keep newcomers ignorant and easily controlled by being the sole providers of information and discouraging all others they do not approve. Our community is fractured, and that fracture began with the social justice kemetics demanding obedience to their opinions.
We would like to mention that reading this post we are baffled how anyone can have such a complete lack of self awareness, awareness in general, and common sense. The “bad kemetics” being discussed here were worthwhile content creators and intelligent people, valuable members of our community. We are impressed by the complete lack of honesty in this post and lack of integrity to tell the truth. The arrogance and self importance to think they can judge kemetics as “worthy or not” based on who kow-tow’s to their political ideologies.
Normally this mod would pick apart this post and point out all of it’s fallacies, lies, and bold faced fabrications, but the entire post is made of this. We would like to mention the anon has asked how they can convince people to submit content and create content or bring in content creators without them being attacked like the past. Without missing a beat Satsekhem attacks them and tone polices them. We are not surprised but we feel this shows the utter incompetence, cruelty, vicious hatred, and bigotry of the social justice kemetics. Our archives are filled with examples. They lie and shame people into silence and then pretend it’s “creating a safe space in the name of minorities” and yet when those minorities speak up to protest they are silenced, shouted down, and cast off as “not the correct minorities”. We need to state that the over aching issue is the social justice kemetics like satsekhem are bigoted and myopic to any opinions, thoughts, and knwoledge that disagrees with them, acting like a band of cultist thugs. We need to inform you, the community is now a virtual wasteland of your own making, a blasted heath of inactivity. Well done, your stubborn racist ideology, as it does to all things it interacts with, has destroyed the community.
- Memphis
Interesting that you would use Archer, Sat, considering a guy like him probably wouldn’t give two flying figs about your political opinions. That, and how you accused the anon of whataboutism when they express fears of innocent bloggers being dogpiled by sjw Kemetics. How ironic!
Who died and made you one of the supreme moral arbiters of Kemeticism, Satsekhem? No pharaoh bequeathed the throne to you or your cohorts. The pharaoh was both the political and religious leader of Egypt because there was no separation between church and state. That’s the same reason why Ma’at was political during ancient times. Kemeticism was the state religion! That doesn’t exist anymore. Most Western countries are secular now. Why would Ma’at be political now, especially when we live in countries that are often comprised of citizens adhering to many religions? People have many thoughts as to what’s moral and what’s not; who are you (or Smarmy, Devo, etc.) to impose your religious morality on others? Would you want a Christian or Muslim (or anyone of any other religion) placing their imperatives into law? Forcing others to practice your beliefs through law sounds a lot like...fascism...
Even if Ma’at was historically political, historical Ma’at in no way resembles present day social “justice”. Charity was definitely a thing, sure, but equity for class, sex, sexual orientation, etc? No way. Rich was supposed to be rich, poor to be poor. Women, despite having more status than in other ancient societies, were still supposed to be wives and mothers, and their status still attached to their fathers and husbands. Egypt was a patriarchal culture. Even if Egypt was more permissive towards homosexuality, they still looked down on guys who were the “bottom” of the relationship. Above all, Egypt was imperialist - they conquered and occupied Nubia and other areas around the Middle East. Do you really think ancient Egyptians would give a rat’s ass about minorities? They had slavery, for goodness’ sake! They sure as hell weren’t checking their Egyptian privilege when subjugating Nubians. Class, gender roles, war, subjugating vulnerable people, and a whole bunch of other injustices were considered to be part of Ma’at back then. You can’t say only one attribute of Ma’at is immutable and the others weren’t. Insisting that Ma’at is political these days is absolutely moronic. Read a history book!
(All this can also apply to Devo’s recent post “Ma’at Was Always Political”.)
Someone as uninformed and deluded as yourself should not be an authority to determine who is welcome in a community and who isn’t. You clearly don’t understand what Ma’at is, historical or contemporary. When someone disagrees with you as to what Ma’at is, you condemn them instead of engaging with them in debate or dialogue. You’re nothing but a Mean Girl; you and your buddies are an immature little clique who excludes anyone who does not adhere to the religion of far-left intersectionality. You’re barely Kemetics and the worst pick for leaders of any type of group.
-Karnak
For this community to recover it needs a time of healing, or peace, of absence from these cruel, callous, vicious children.
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May the kemetic community find peace.
Thank you anon for these kind words, the community really needs this now, we hope it does find peace and heal and look forward to trying to help make that happen
-The Mods of KCFTP
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Devo left? Like for realsies and not a fake guilt-trippy leaving like she did before wanting people to beg for her return?
Hello Anon, we are not presently sure, which this will be. We are hoping for a clean break. We understand from perusing Devo’s blogs that their health has spent years deteriorating and remaining toxic in a toxic environment (one she and her cronies aided in created). We at KCFTP, while not fans, think it would be better for Devo to make a clean break and leave, so the energy spent on spreading toxins can be spent on healing.
--Memphis
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I like how Devo manages to blame the community for their leaving while acknowledging their own toxicity at the same time. Good riddance and maybe the community will be safe from misinformation and fracturing for awhile. I have never seen anyone with so much unwarranted self importance. You don't own the community, Devo and it existed before you showed up and made a mess of things.
We would like to inform you that we apologize for the long wait for us to get to this, these mods lives have been very busy.
We would like to say, we are not surprised Devo blames the community, it is easy to blame everyone around you , rather then hold yourself accountable and consider you were wrong. Devo was very wrong.
We would like to inform you that we are not sad to see her go but we are saddened by how it has happened. We would like to agree there was a lot of unwarranted self importance and it showed in Devo’s dismissive and often abusive behavior towards others and their beliefs. They inspired vicious people to chase away good people from the community, robbing it of knowledge and conscience. We would like to state fairly that Devo did create a lot of posts...but not of quality, in our opinion.
We would like to say the community has been left as a crater and it will be along time before anything positive can happen there but maybe better quality content can fill the void with proper academic sources. We wish they hadn’t stayed over spite and poisoned the community with a ‘scorched earth campaign’ mindset.
We would like to say, the community needs a period of healing now.
--Memphis
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To Light A Magic Fart
We have been made aware that our latest commentary has elicited a rant.
https://web.archive.org/save/https://smarmykemeticpagan.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/liminality-divine-intervention-and-other-heresies/
We would like begin by saying the first half of this rant is not only a misdirect but a lot of personal stuff that is outside our targeted topics of commentary so we shall be skipping that.
“As I type all this, I feel a strange sense of bewilderment. I’ve read very little on liminal spaces, magical theory, mythic time, or Dionysus; and yet I’m sitting here, trying to tell my own story and no one else’s, and finding myself describing something that I somehow, recognize as being intimately connected to all of these things at once. “
We must inform you this is very doubtful. As someone who has crusaded against actual knowledge and those who teach it, study it, and understand it, you suddenly valuing any knowledge you are adamant against giving any sense of importance, this is a contradiction. We would like to remind you, you have spent years demonizing those who are academically minded, who would possess the best supply of these topics of information. We need to remind you, you have chased, and guided newcomers away from these very informed and academic individuals with a very glib and dismissive expressions that they are somehow morally and emotionally defective.
We need to remind you, you have spent more posts declaring how unimportant and meaningless academic resources, information, and knowledgeable people who covet such information, that it boggles the mind how you can sit here now and suddenly have an appreciation for information and knowledge. We must say that is highly convenient, almost like you are a bag of contradictions and hyperbole.
“ I don’t know. Maybe I can’t know. Maybe knowing how and why this is happening isn’t the point. “
We would like to mention that in every occurrence that knowledge is passed on from a deity it is made obvious that it is given by them. We would like to remind you, this would be conferred as a minor miracle and the god that granted it would not do so with a cloak and dagger delivery.
“Maybe no matter how strange and fantastic my real life is...“
We can not believe you, as you complain constantly about how you are incredibly oppressed and put-upon by the evil capitalist misogynistic patriarchy, holding you in a death grip of poverty...strange and fantastic is not the picture you spent years painting. If you’d like to recant those lies and give a more accurate depiction of your life, feel free, no need to keep up the pretense.
“... there will always be some way that I and everyone else can convince ourselves that there must be a perfectly mundane, scientific explanation for everything, that nothing truly magical could ever possibly happen in our actual, physical lives. “
We would like to say this is a gross generalization that disturbs us greatly. We would like to mention that, something can be scientific and still be magical. Magical events do not have to be beyond scientific involvement or divorced from the world in a separate sphere. They are part of the same world, they occupy the same space. Magic is everywhere, and science just helps us understand how that natural magic works. We understand the gist of what you are attempting to say but it’s so mushmouth muddled with it loses cohesion. We would like to simplify, you’re wrong. --Memphis
Not familiar with the idea that magic is only science we don’t understand yet, are you? The world is as magical as you make it. --Cairo
“In fact, if I had done what nigh on every single Hellenic polytheist told me, 3 years ago, that I absolutely must do before I was allowed to even talk to any of the Theoi; i.e., devote far more time, money, and energy than I even had... “
You’d have a functional well structured and meaningful religious practice that you can easily make a habit to exercise, in order to have an actual religious practice and not just invent it on a whim while screeching “muh poverty lack of resources”, in a religious practice that has its ancient methodologies of worship and practice well outlined with a knowledgeable community that could inform you of them and help you? We can see how dreadful that would have been! Better you avoided any of that ACTUAL respecting the gods with their own religious practices which are time tested and just dump a can of wine on the ground, belch and in tone “amen, bro”.--Memphis
If every single practitioner of a religion is telling you that you do something, perhaps that’s how the religion is actually practiced? Just saying.--Cairo
”I would still be refusing to accept the very possibility that the Theoi are real, and trying to communicate with me, and weren’t just trying to kick the shit out of me because I ‘m not “humble” enough to be allowed to even casually worship them, or even think about wanting to worship them. That is the extent to which I have been gaslighted by an ableist, sexist, queerphobic world...”
We must inform you this is not gaslighting, and none of this is true. You’re so buried helplessly in the twisted murky interior of your own ideology that you have bought into all the lies and fables it has generated. Snap out of it!
“It’s because polytheists are, for the most part, every bit as closed-minded and self-righteous as the Southern Baptists who told me I was an abomination and a Devil worshipper and a degenerate for being a queer witch who talked back to pastors and smoked weed.“
We must inform you, you are confused. These are your actions which you committed upon every community you attempted to infect like herpes. Anyone who didn’t bow down to every word of your vapid ideology was to be summarily purged. You created an entire callout blog (which we parody), to bully, harrass and purge people you deem morally corrupt and a heretic to your divinely sanctioned and holy edicts of social justice that must be obeyed to the letter. You terrorized this community for years with it, dividing it, polarizing it and demonizing our gods, twisting them into these token puppets you can make spit out any words you want to give yourself the squishy feels.
The only ones who act like southern Baptists or medieval catholic inquisitors, are you and your friends. Don’t try to backpedal that YOU are the victim here, you are the bully, the aggressor, the one causing harm.
Some sects of polytheism have actual ancient records detailing proper practices to how their religion is followed. While following them in personal practice is largely voluntary, they are the methods espoused to have been prescribed by the gods of their own religion. It’s just respectful to those gods to follow such practices.
”Because of all this, polytheists are perfectly willing to bully, threaten, gaslight, and otherwise abuse young, vulnerable people in their midst who even for one minute threaten their perceived “respectability” in the eyes of the mainstream and of their favorite Big Name Pagans. They are perfectly willing to ignore the real problems in our community -bullying, toxic groupthink, overwhelming authoritarianism, rape culture and misogyny, TERFS and other assorted trans/homophobes, bigots of every kind, ableism to the point that the first thing anyone says to discredit me is that I’m “obviously hallucinating” when I talk about astral stuff or magic (that’s not how hallucinations fucking work you fucking morons! Read a book every now and then, for chrissake), and goddamn actual Nazis- in favor of whining about how Pop Culture Pagans or “fluffy” people or “loudmouthed brats” are OMG THE REASON NO ONE TAKES US SERIOUSLY!1!!11!!! They do all of these things, and simultaneously fancy themselves particularly enlightened, superior to followers of “”Abrahamic religions””, by virtue of simply “following the old gods” and “being connected to nature”, or whatever.”
We are touched, this is clear vagueblogging about us. What was it you said...
Seriously though, you left this on our post as if you don’t care, and then wrote this thesis of how much it bothers you and you do care. You’re pathetic.
“Because of this shallow, petty, and toxic paradigm that permeates basically every single official pagan and polytheist space, it is almost impossible for most of us to really, meaningfully connect and communicate with our gods. “
We must inform you, this is fundamentally untrue. You’re reaching again.--Memphis
Citation needed. This mod has actually heard more complaints that name you, Devo, and your friends specifically as making it difficult to practice, than heard such complaints about other online spaces.--Cairo
“Because of this shallow, petty, and toxic paradigm that permeates basically every single official pagan and polytheist space, it is almost impossible for most of us to really, meaningfully connect and communicate with our gods. Human beings are intimately social creatures; we are constantly, consciously and subconsciously, affected by the social environment that we are in, whether we like it or not and whether we know it or not. It’s basically impossible not to be drawn in by the assumptions everyone around you makes and operates on, even if we’re ignoring thoughtforms and energies and other woo stuff. Polytheists have convinced ourselves that anything we experience that’s in any way out of the ordinary; in any way not exactly what the historical record we currently have portrays…in other words, anything that might realistically be a part of interacting with actual deities and doing actual magic, absolutely will be called a delusion, an attention-seeking stunt, an idiotic act of hubris, an attempt to “start a cult” or gain coercive power over others, an evil and sacrilegious act, or all of the above, by anyone and everyone in our community who wants to discredit whatever it is we’re saying. No wonder even people who have fantastic experiences doubt themselves, or refuse to go public with it; I’m not a particularly sensitive person by a long shot, and I often have to steel myself to be honest online because of the (attempted) bullying and public shaming that I know for a fact will result from it.“
More about us. You must love us dearly. We must inform you, again you are entirely wrong. You literally told Set in that interview post, you would start a cult. You adhere to a collectivist ideology that operates on the concept of original sin and so everyone of that group must atone for the sins of the group for every instance in history. You follow an ideology that abhors individual worth and thought over the group opinion and the group’s collective thought, in which any dissent and the individual will be sacrificed to ensure purity of the group. You operate like a wanna-be cult leader who wants a cult.
You have done alot of evil in this community and you called it righteous because your ideology decrees it must be. Your every action is dictated by it, your every thought is shaped by it to the point you declared that a god who historically always supported a theocratic monarchy...suddenly fell in love with socialism/communism...an inherently destructive and genocidal form of government and philosophy. One that has claimed over 100 million lives, and more?! That is alot ot buy, smarmy, a LOT to buy. We didn’t even mention how he just outright confirms all your political points, thoughts, beliefs, and heralds them as divinely sanctioned?! We don’t have to know how the stove top makes the coil red hot to understand touching it will burn.--Memphis
Others have said it, and this mod will say it again: It is not that you are sharing your personal experiences that is the problem; it is that you are stating them as being as factually true as peer reviewed historical sources. You can believe what you want, but it is absolutely dishonest and disgusting to expect and insist that the rest of the community treat it as fucking holy scripture.--Cairo
“I’m not a particularly sensitive person by a long shot...”
We would like to say, considering you felt the need to write this dissertation of drivel, you most certainly are sensitive.
“If you say you worship Set, but then spit in the face of his ideals in almost every mundane action you take -from the way you treat people traditionally associated with him to the way you think and talk about mundane, real-world chaos, riots, criminals, and political violence- are you actually worshipping Set, or are you just worshipping your own assumptions about Set?“
We are amazed at how unironic you write this and yet, it’s like you wrote this looking in a mirror.
“And if the very fact that someone online who you don’t like has posted UPG about Set condemning your actions and behavior…causes you to post frantic, histrionic paragraphs about how the person in question is an evil, power-hungry, lunatic aspiring cult leader who is “evidently” crazy and lying and trying to manipulate the entire kemetic community and also is in league with the Sn/ake that wants to destroy existence itself, are you really prioritizing your devotion to Set? Or are you prioritizing your own ego, because you refuse to even entertain the possibility that you could be wrong and ought to change your behavior in some way in order to better honor him? “
Wow again, you gazed in the mirror. None of our commentaries, nor those of any of your critics, are frantic, nor histrionic, but it is apparent that you are and you do. They are not the ones fueled by such deep seething hatred and rage for anything outside your own myopic and narrow minded views. They aren’t the ones demanding slavish devotion to an ideology that history has proven is murderous and dangerous. They aren’t the ones who profess to be ‘on the side of the angels’ and in the same breath long for violent rebellious war to shred the country and slaughter millions. You are a hateful person devoid of compassion and an enemy of anything resembling freedom.
We see you have again mistaken UPG for something provable. If you had written that interview and stated that you wrote Set’s dialogue intuitively, or you interpreted them, rather then composed the transcript verbatim...we’d have been more lenient with our criticisms. We point out, every word of his dialogue was verbatim your own, that you have ranted about for the years. Every bit, from his diction, to his syntax, from tone to word choices was entirely from your own and not from an external source. The fact it entirely vindicates every word of your political tripe, your beliefs and ideology, to the decimal place, is evidence that it’s not from any external source, or external spiritual entity but from you. This was a complete fiction.
To state that “anyone who disagrees with smarmy, Set and his people gunna git’ya”, is such a colossal over reach that it strains believably. We are certain that any god who loves their devotee would say they will defend them against attack, but this. We must inform you this is something else entirely.
We are quite certain we don’t need to change our behavior to profess your ideals as our own and bow down to accept communism and socialism or even anarchism as the true path forwards. We don’t need to throw away any sense of actual morality to support systems that have led to more destruction and death then any others in history and recorded memory.
We are also not above admitting if we are wrong, but when it comes to you and how you abuse the name of the gods for your own twisted ends, we aren’t.
We are however, certain you are. You are so in love with your own ideological puppetry that you not only profess that a god has endorsed you 100%, promised to smite all who oppose you, promise you power and prestige as his precious prophet of his ideals (which you forced into him). So deeply entrenched in this ideology and stances of no matter what the cost, no matter how ridiculous, you can never admit to being wrong when facing any dissenting voices or else it instantly negates all of your teachings, beliefs, and words (which it only does because you made them so absolute), that you cannot admit you are wrong and can only dig deeper down this endless trench of foolishness and madness.
We have no doubts the S/na/ke influences you, it praises you, it agrees with you, it gives you whatever you want, the sense of righteousness that you’re never wrong and always on the side of purity, everyone else is evil, everyone else is impure, everyone else is wrong, everyone else is at fault...That is the danger of isfet and the parasitic spirits that serve it, and you let them in.
“ I believe that gods are huge, ancient, and multi-faceted, so sure, it’s possible that there’s a version of Set out there that likes racist bootlickers and encourages them to follow the law no matter the human cost“
This is among the most offensive things you’ve ever said. Historical record cannot be dismissed and hand-waved away of how these gods have acted in the past and expect they did a full 180. We would like to mention, that once again, like any good cult leader, you degrade anyone who dissents. We would like to state you are completely off the mark, you have no understanding of this god if you honestly think he loves communism and loves nazism and loves racism because ‘there MUST be an aspect of him that likes it’. We need to remind you, that would make him evil. This is a complete insult to a god you claim to love and worship. This is a damning and horrible thing to say about a god you claim to respect. This shows us you have nothing but sheer contempt for the gods, so you invent a twisted and corrupted idea of them. We need to remind you, it’s bullshit like this that makes us say your a delusional child aspiring cult leader who is aligned with the sn/a/ke, if you honestly think this about Set. We are disgusted, you do this noble god, so much dishonor. --Memphis
How dare you. How dare you insult a god you claim to be even an outlaw priest of with such a foul misunderstanding of his character?! Even for hyperbolic rhetoric?! Can you not have even the barest smidgen of respect for the god you claim to serve or worship? Or are the words that describe the most basic relationship of priesthood too uncomfortable for you?--Cairo
“ ... to “keep it real” by regurgitating tired and ignorant bigoted stereotypes and acting as though the fact the stereotype exists at all is somehow evidence that you’re right to be a bigot; and believe that “illegals” seeking asylum so that they and their families won’t fucking die are inherently dangerous enough to justify putting them in motherfucking concentration camps. But just because it’s possible doesn’t necessarily mean it’s very likely, now does it? “
We would ask if you ever get tired of making sweeping incorrect generalizations that make you look stupid but we already know the answer. If you’d like to discuss what we believe regarding various political situations, we at KCFTP would be happy to chat, but do stop shoving words and beliefs into our and everyone mouths that do not apply.--Memphis
Who the fuck is Smarmy even talking about here?--Cairo
“No wonder people react to anyone showing historically common, textbook behaviors of a person being called to spirit work or reacting to being in a liminal space or state of mind, with derision and scorn and bullying. Genuine liminality, one of the main historical requirements for communicating with gods or using magic, is almost universally despised and cursed by modern-day polytheists as heresy.“
We would like to say this literally never happens. This is a bold faced lie. We knew you could not help it!--Memphis
That is really fucking weird, every discussion I’ve had with other polytheists and pagans has touched on how to communicate with gods, spirits, and other entities, magic, or other things that require having a foot in multiple worlds. Everyone usually seems pretty eager to talk about such things. Unusual for something “universally despised and cursed.”--Cairo
“LGBT+ people are stereotyped as “special snowflakes” and yelled at about “assigning modern labels to gods” when we say that deities who canonically act as multiple genders or sleep with same-gendered-beings, are queer like us. “
We would like to clarify, no smarmy, that’s just you and your ilk...and it’s by other LBGT+ people...Stop trying to be some martyr, you aren’t. Go outside, get off the internet.
“ Young people are bullied and publicly shamed on a regular basis if they run afoul of the wrong “Big Name Pagan”, and people smugly tell themselves and each other that it is, somehow, for the kid’s own good because they have to be “taught a lesson in humility” and “being the bigger person” or some other fucking nonsense that sounds like it fell directly from the mouths of actual child abusers and predators. “
So anyone who disagrees with you are child abusers and predators now too!? We would like to say that is astounding, almost like it’s entirely fiction. We’d also like to mention, the only BIG Name Pagans around here are you and Devo, and you guys are constantly a problem. Maybe its you who needs to “be taught a lesson in humility” because you are no where near humble and you are among the most abusive individuals in this community.--Memphis
Said it before, will say it again. We have seen you and your crew bully and publicly shame far more people in this particular community than any of us. We’re not the ones who started the Kemetic Callout war, only the ones who have arguably been more successful at it. And your callout blog only has the people who talked back and wouldn’t bend, it doesn’t count the many who bowed and broke before your bullying or those who left here altogether.--Cairo
“Until sharing UPG that goes against the more popular narratives no longer makes one a social pariah among their polytheist peers, nobody should be surprised that it’s almost exclusively the heretical, disrespectful punks who are constantly being publicly snubbed and dismissed by their peers, who ever seem to talk about seeing any results or evidence that anything out-of-the-ordinary is actually going on. “
Translation: “Until I can share my UPG and it is believed as absolute fact without any question, and be heralded as the divine truth, the community is a shitshow!”--Memphis
As long as your UPG agrees 100% with your own personal and political beliefs, it will and should be questioned. Whatever your stance, the gods have a wider experience and knowledge base than we do and will always have a different perspective. Any spirit that tells you everything you want to hear and flatters you shamelessly is no god and has no good intentions towards you in the end.--Cairo
“Until we all accept that it doesn’t matter if Christians and mainstream secular people think we’re weird and so we don’t need to constantly jump through hoops to seem Academic™ and Serious™ and Normal™, nobody should be surprised that the only public discussions that don’t devolve into nasty name-calling matches are ones facilitated by a handful of holier-than-thou assholes who treat having a PhD in Philosophy as though it’s a permission slip from the gods themselves to be a self-righteous, know-it-all douche, and never really allow any disagreement with them on anything important.“
Translation: “We need to continue being edgy punk teens who disrespect gods and culture and snub actual belief systems by turning them into comical satires of themselves, until the people smarter then us give up and let us have all the power, while we use our UPG to try and seem way more divinely important then we actually are by assigning ourselves flashy titles and divine endorsements!!! Cause if the gods support US, then we can’t be wrong!”
We would like to remind you that history is fraught with oppressive regimes who used this tactic, one example is the Spanish Inquisition. Did you agree with them torturing and killing people to force them into conversion? Another example we would like to mention is the North Korean regimes. The ones who still have ACTUAL concentration camps.
We would like to mention, China now has concentration camps where they hold and torment innocent Muslim citizens, and Chechnya who still have death camps where they send gay and LGBT citizens.
We would like to mention these go entirely against your belief and political structures about LGBT+ issues, oppression, and gay rights. We notice you never mention those. We notice you never complain about them and how evil they are. We wonder, is it because it goes against your narrative of “communism is the truth and the way” or do you just not care?
We would like to point out it would seem like those are true injustices you could fight against and for...not...how everyone needs to behave and believe how you want.
We would like to set the snark aside for a second and say, we’re always up for discussions. We need to clarify that you always reduce the conversations to insults and calling everyone who disagrees with you “racist bootlickers”, so the issue is not on our side, but with you, so stop lying that we and all your critics are the unreasonable ones.
“And until we care more about taking care of each other than protecting our deities’ reputations, nobody should be surprised when our community remains a toxic, misogynistic, homophobic, Nazi-infested shithole, while everyone is more than happy to spend hours arguing about the particulars of shrine setups and deity name pronunciations and whether or not it’s okay to offer potato chips and Netflix binges to ancient deities who, ultimately, realistically are not that likely to give a shit either way. “
Literal Nazis wandered into our community and your reaction was “meh so what” and continued bullying other innocent people, who you labeled as nazis and racists. You’re a one tune piano smarmy, and you just keep tooting the same tune. It wasn’t believable when you were “the holy ambassador, ordained by Jesus, to the hellenics” it is not believable now.
“Until we fix the problems with our collective paradigm, until we fix the way we treat each other, until we genuinely value wisdom, compassion, humility, and courage over our reputations, we are all gonna have to accept that the gods we worship are not all that interested in revealing their actual, authentic, awesome, strange and unexpected powers to people who are determined to believe they are either incapable or unwilling to do so.“
We agree, you should start treating people better, starting with inatier and all the other people you’ve spent YEARS defaming, bullying, berating, harassing, snubbing, and demonizing.--Memphis
Actions speak louder than words Smarmy, and based on yours none of these are your values. We have seen you bully and cast aside community members who did their research and were willing to share, we have seen your utter lack of compassion throughout your time here with anyone who has the nerve to disagree with you, and the idea of you having humility is a joke. You worry more about being seen as your edgy, antifa, communist [insert additional labels here} self than about having the courage to suck it up, show some compassion, and value the wisdom of trying to mend the fences you have broken so badly over the years.
Additionally, we have had no problem seeing the many wondrous and varied faces of our gods because we are not hell bent on forcing them into tiny boxes that fit only our own personal beliefs. If this is a problem you have been having, perhaps you should take your own advice.--Cairo
My colleagues have added much to these particular points of your diatribe, but I’ll add my bit here. While it seems like you may be in a better place physically (despite claiming you know more about psychology and medicine than your previous doctors do), you seem to be going down a dark, dangerous road mentally. You might just find yourself in jail yet, or worse if you don’t reevaluate your thinking.
“The insomnia is what caused my other symptoms to get so bad that they become delusions, paranoia, mania, and once, auditory hallucinations.” So you’re admitting to having breaks from reality, along with your emotional instability. Yet, you get butthurt when people are skeptical to your religious experiences. I’m no psychologist, admittedly, but I don’t automatically trust random people’s religious experiences, much less someone with a history of psychosis. Whether it’s you or anyone else.
I would also recommend you be very, very careful using THC. I don’t know what medications you’re taking, but THC can interact with several different drugs, including Prozac. High levels of THC can cause paranoia and psychosis as well.
You’re trying to act as a leader and activist when you’re still dealing with some very serious conditions. This is why so many people recommend to not use magic or occultic practices when dealing with mental health. People are not being elitist or ableist when they do this. The whole purpose is to encourage others to first attain treatment for their conditions. You’ve been claiming your own voice as Set’s, threatening violence to attain your desires in regards to politics, and using magic to harm your political enemies. You refuse to understand the motivations of people who don’t hold the same political opinions - even “centrists”, so that even the politically moderate are your enemies. This is even a symptom of borderline personality disorder, which you say you’re diagnosed with. Clearly, your symptoms aren’t completely managed.
https://www.webpsychology.com/news/2015/09/01/dangers-black-and-white-thinking-228391
You have a long way to go in terms of healing. You can blame the outside world all you like for not getting treatment or for a lack of progress, but your mental health is YOUR responsibility and you need to take responsibility and fix yourself before you’re in any position to try and “fix” the world with your ideology.
I highly encourage you to take a break and get some further professional help; wherever you are and however you can get it. Your writings are extremely troubling to us here. The last thing you need is to get arrested or committed trying to “punch a Nazi” or “take down the system”. You’re going to really screw up any chances of getting on your feet, getting treatment, and doing something actually meaningful with your life if you continue down this road.
--Karnak
#kemetic#kemetic fandom#kemeticism#Kemetic community#The Epic Tale of Smarmys Insanity#A Shadow Over Tumblr#The Call of Cruelty#Today on Dr. Phil...
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(we will be keeping the sumbitter anonymous)
“Don't know if you guys have seen this“
We here at KCFTP do not condone doxing of anyone for any reason. We do not believe it is justified for a simple idiotic child internet troll, or any affects that it has on their families. We are very sorry to @smarmykemeticpagan for having to experience doxing, we mean this sincerely.
We would like to say that this collectivist thinking “if you support and use PU you literally hurt me in the past and support what someone who isn't a mod did!!!!” We would like to remind you that retroactive guilt is not a thing, we understand you are desperate and grasping at this somehow makes you think you have a point, but, you do not. We would also like to remind you:
PU states they post submissions, and the submissions do not express the opinions of the staff. We need to point out, it’s right there, we do not understand how you can babble on and miss this obvious sign. We understand you did not do well in high school and being uneducated must be a very difficult thing for you to struggle with but, we at least thought by now, you would have learned to read.
“PU exists for people to use it as an anonymous platform to post hate, ignorance, bullying, abuse, and gaslighting into pagan!tumblr community without any repurcussions. If you engage with PU regularly, as far as I’m concerned, you may as well be on 4chan helping them suicide bate and bully teenagers into killing themselves or otherwise hurting themselves and posting about it so that you can watch and laugh about what a great troll you are.”
We would like to say this is a an exaggerated comparison. Claiming a platform of anonymous complaining and bitching pagans venting their frustrations about the community is equatable to convincing teenagers to kill themselves, is hyperbole, offensive, and a lie. We suggest you stop being histrionic, you have ceased to be remotely believable, and frankly this hurts your whole case of displaying how much of a victim you are. The actions of the people who frequent the blog are =/= the actions of the blog. We suggest you stick to making claims that have any actual backing then collectivist trash.
We would like to say, since you bring up your rampant mental illness, is evidently responsible for your actions with Solo...remember to take your medication, @smarmykemeticpagan, we wouldn’t want you having another breakdown.
--Memphis
I believe we too would like to see any evidence to whether Pagansuncensored is actually supporting any type of supremacy. For the most part, they only post what others submit to their blog, and rarely voice anything of their own. As stated above, PU has a full disclaimer that un-PC statements aren’t theirs. We’d like to see if they’ve expressed any independent opinions.
It’s strange that this is a point of contention in any case, as PU has greatly decreased their frequency of posting asks and the like. Methinks they’re a dying blog. Why bother with the crusade when the blog’s heyday is in its past?
-Karnak
#kemetic#kemeticism#kemetic community#kemetic fandom#The Lion the Wallowing in the Wardrobe#but its ok when I do it#smarmy the victim#Hyperbolic Hymns of Hamming-it-up#The Lying Litany of Lethergy
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To Stir a Magic Cauldron of Farce
This article was recommended to us by reader who we shall keep anonymous.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190208215239/https://smarmykemeticpagan.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/interview-with-set-wtf-was-all-that-about/
This mod would like to be the first to say, we are very much a believing sort when people say they have conversations with their gods. We like to think they are honest and their beautiful experiences are ones of earnest. That said we must ask...is that the best you could do?
We must say this article from @smarmykemeticpagan is a desperate bit of pageantry. This is not a devotee recording a transcript of a conversation with their beloved god. This is putting on a mask and impersonating a god to manufacture an aire of authority. This is a bold faced attempt to make oneself a cult leader. This is a lie, a con, a trick, a false pretense to claim “well all the gods in our pantheon support every word I say so you can’t argue against me, you literally argue against our gods!!!” Be not deceived precious kemetic friends. This con-artist tries but has no authority, unless you surrender to it, do not be seduced.
That her political tirades are “divinely supported” as if to make them more unassailable. This is a desperate power move to seize some vestige of spiritual backing where none actually exists. This is putting your words in a gods mouth and pretending its them talking. This is pure propaganda of the most transparent sort. This mod is not impressed nor moved. We would like to state we are just disappointed, we expected you to try harder to make it seem genuine.
The gods may not be pleased with how humans treat humans, but they have already prescribed their desires for us to live. We as humans must live by that or not. What smarmy has done here is shoved her ideological beliefs into a Set mask and pretended it was Set himself endorsing it. This is dangerous, disingenuous, and a plain lie to everyone who supports her. The obviousness of this suggests to this mod, smarmy does not consider the intelligence of her supporters and audience to be very high. We must inform you, that a rather damning prospect.
This mod weeps for the gods to be slandered with such trivial garbage, professed as their own words. We see smarmy tries to install herself as a legitimate “outlaw priest” we think someone has been playing too much Red Dead. We were not impressed with all the veiled threats being stuffed into Set’s mouth either. These are the actions of someone desperate to mask the Enemy, as Trusted Friend. We advise the community to not be fooled and not to buy into these maddened ravings of a lunatic cultist desperate for power.
“You don’t let a snake into your home and assume it’s not going to act like a snake. Fuck’s sake, even baby humans know that.“
We would like to inform you how ironic it is you warn people of this.
This mod would dig deeper into every line of how this entire interview is a complete farce, but it proves that itself. We would like to remind you smarmy, be sure to take your medication, dear, this article shows us you’ve been lax.
--Memphis
Good GODS this is one of the most cringeworthy things I have ever read. This is a one-woman circle-jerk; a narcissistic manifesto from Smarmy disguised as divine revelation. If Set had any involvement in this debacle, I’ll eat my hat!
“You make me look so cool.” -_- WTF. Set’s already cool; he doesn’t need your bitch ass, Smarmy. What on earth have you done to be “relentless surgeon cutting out a tumor?” You have a blog where you spread a hateful, destructive ideology that has killed millions wherever it’s been attempted. Whoop-de-fuckin’-do. What a brave activist! /s
Here’s something that Set has taught me. Things have never, ever been okay. Before the Industrial Revolution, life was most certainly as described by Thomas Hobbes: nasty, brutish, and short. Life expectancy was extremely low because of childhood diseases, societies were often just a few bad harvests away from starvation, and other tribes or countries constantly warred with one another over limited resources. Humans have made advancements to overcome these conditions, but like how you mentioned Rome, the collapse of civilization and infrastructure can and does happen. Nothing in life is guaranteed; it can all come crashing down in an instant.
You had Set say in your little diatribe how having barbaric order is worse than chaos. What you fail to realize is that both order and chaos can be barbaric. I remind you that Nature abhors a vacuum. If you could actually abolish the society and leaders we currently have, someone else will take their place. They may be worse than the people you dispose. Think carefully before starting a revolution. The Russians did that in 1917. It’s estimated that 100 million people died from various countries trying to implement the ideas of Marx and Lenin.
Ra almighty, it gets even worse the longer you read. Apparently Set has more miracles for Smarmy that even *He* won’t let her know about. Then “he” (I’m going with lower-case here because this is so obviously Smarmy speaking as Set) threatens every one who opposes Smarmy. Who do you think Set is, Smarmy, Liam Neeson?
Just, ugh. You never learn, kid. How can you think of yourself as a great priestess battling the forces of darkness if you never reflect on your own darkness? When you stare into the abyss, it also gazes into you. And when you put words into Set’s mouth saying he’s going to destroy all the people you hate, whether they’re really racist or just on a different part of the political spectrum, you are NOT being compassionate. You’re just a blind asshat spreading your own hate around. Way to further a/pep, you moron.
-Karnak
#kemetic community#kemetic fandom#kemetic#The Great Con-artist#The Invisible Set#Kettle of Shas#she's so SET in hr ways
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This post here we shall be responding to. To both persons appearing within the post.
We would like to begin by addressing @desert-rage ‘s comments.
We would like to say, these people in this FB group are correct, Set nor any of the gods favor one human political ideology over another. They do not involve themselves in our politics, only in matters of Ma’at and where our human politics may violate Ma’at. We are sure there are other points where the two converge that the gods may care about and want to intervene in, but on the by and large we must agree with the people on FB. We would like to specifically mention they were a little too rude to you regarding this discussion you had with them. They could have been more amicable in our personal, opinion.
@anaputuwet
“the way these people are talking makes it sound like they dont think the NTRW have fucking moral values“
We would like to inform you, that you are confusing human moral values with the moral values of the Gods. Your moral values (or lack of them considering your ideology), are not the same as the Gods. We would also like to inform you that these people seem to think the Gods don’t care about human petty politics of which skin color is “the most fashionable” or “whose the most oppressed”, they have a universe to protect and run.
“They fight bad deeds and therefor the bad people that actively promote such deeds.“
We would like to inform you this is fundamentally incorrect. They fight the A/poo/p, the father of all evil and bad things, not people, not deeds, but the force that encourages those things. We would think you could AT LEAST get this part right, maybe you need to read a few more books...
“its honestly kind of bewildering that theyve come to anywhere remotely close to the conclusion of “the gods dont care either way”. morality is LITERALLY the foundation of kemeticism.“
We would like to comment, they ultimately don't. The Gods already instructed humanity on how they prescribe them to live, anything beyond that is human choice. We understand you may want them to reaffirm their stances for the modern age but they haven’t.
We are amused you talk about morality but support ideologies that to this day lead nations to starvation and mass death. We are pretty sure you don’t know what that word means.
“you even gave well known mythological examples on why Theyd have deeply concern Themselves with politics and theyre just like “ah, i see. youre making this shit up because its what YOU want the gods to be like”.“
We must judge by the provided screenshots...These references do not prove the point. The references do not prove that Set favors YOUR ideology and involves himself with human politics. We see a pattern of your confusion, fitting as you are discussing the God of Confusion. We would like to also add, that both of you ARE “making shit up because its what YOU want the gods to be like”. We personally, think this is fine for a personal taste, as long as you acknowledge and are aware that because this is how YOU want the gods to be, does not mean that they are such for EVERYONE. We notice you and your bedfellows have issues with making this distinction.
““the gods do not favour any group or individual” have you read literally ANYTHING my dude.“
We must have missed the parts in literature where Ancient Egyptians recorded the gods stating their “love for communism and anti-capitalism” and “anyone who argues against anaputuwets ideology is a fascist™ and we, the Netjeru hate them!!” We will have to go back into our libraries and re-read this vital information we seem to have missed!
“ im real sorry they ended up being big jerks about you just wanting to share a joke.“
This mod must agree they were rather snobbish about it, but while the people on FB were the actual ones in the right...they were a touch unnecessarily rude. We would like to mention, we don’t see how the statement “Set hates fascists” is a joke, it seems rather serious, or is the word “joke” another one you don’t understand? Hmm.
--Memphis
I myself like to think that Set would kill fascists, communists, and other workers of iniquity. However, the lack of obvious divine intervention tells me that the Netjeru just plain don’t work that way. If we want to stop people from harming others, it’s up to us, humanity, to do it.
Certainly, the Netjeru do oppose evil. They’re probably more involved with the “bigger picture” of preserving existence and human civilization. However, what they determine to be evil and how they might combat it doesn’t align with what humans would think or do. They have a lot more foresight; and sometimes letting the little humans do things for themselves is the best path. They also have a lot more foresight into what is in a person’s heart. Is this person bent on plain old destruction and suffering, or perhaps they are misguided by false beliefs? People can change. One thing that really gets me is that all these SJW Kemetics talk about committing violence on their political enemies, but never take the actual effort to construct arguments against fascism. Have you all ever thought instead of killing fascists, racists, etc., maybe try convincing them that they’re wrong? Saving them from their hate? Oh wait, that would require intelligence.
Some joke, anyway. Anaputuwet, we all know how much you hate fascists and to you, fascists are pretty much anyone who doesn’t adhere to Social Justice (TM). What a lovely approach. Instead of using your brain and constructing a proper argument to refute fascists, you just resort to violence. Well, you and your buddies would, if you had the gumpton to actually fight. I’ve never seen any of the SJW Kemetics take on any Nazis. I don’t think any of you are actually brave enough.
--Karnak
#kemetic fandom#kemeticism#kemetic#kemetic community#The Grapevine Chronicles#The Midnight Society's Tale of The Moral Gods#Adventures on Facebook
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