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Hmmm... I should attempt at the Bard Class.
Classes and aspects that aren't with any of the human kids is difficult because we don't follow their stories as closely, and sadly for me, I can't get a very good idea of how their Medium world contrasts their home. I do feel like I have a good idea on the story of a Bard though, so let's give it a shot.
There are two phases in a Bard's story. Let's follow Gamzee Makara, a Bard of Rage, for this. The first phase is where the Bard will act completely inverse to their aspect. Gamzee was more aligned with the hope aspect. He was kind, believed in Juggalos, and he wasn't murdering everyone he saw.
In the second phase, Gamzee has a breaking point due so the nightmares from inadequate sleep and goes on rage-induced murder spree where he kills Nepeta Leijon and Equius Zahhak.
Consulting the wiki (give me a break it's been a while 馃槶) it seems Cronus Ampora has had similar phases. One where he follows a prophecy where he is destined to kill Lord English, and a second phase where he does not.
While Cronus when we see him is acting more within the hope aspect by believing he has rizz, I wonder if this is more of a default subdued state. After all, in Homestuck 2, Gamzee was not on a rampage before he was murdered. Then again, what would a hope-rampage look like? I have no clue. Thinking Cronus have a chance with any woman he sees feels like mania to me, I suppose. It is important to consider that the alpha trolls' stories were cut off before the game could end and emotional arcs might not have been concluded.
In Homestuck 2, whichever of the kids is a Bard will be leaning heavily into an aspect that has already been used (life, breath, heart, or hope).
#homestuck#homestuck 2#classpect#sburb#class#gamzee makara#homestuck gamzee#cronus ampora#hs cronus#homestuck cronus#classpect analysis#bard#bard of rage#bard of hope
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Wow. I haven't been on here but I want to point out how weird it was to see Terezi say that Dirk looks like a little lad who wants berries and cream. 100% valid but I'm used to jokes from over a decade ago in this web series.
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do you do session analysis or would ya rather not?
Session analysis are probably too much for me to be honest. But I think the success of a session can be brought down to a few key components.
Firstly, does your session have a Knight and a character with a Space aspect? If not, there will be no new universe to go to and therefor nothing to win. Now, the Alpha Kids (Jane, Jake, Dirk, and Roxy) were able to win the game, but that's because the Beta Kids were able to crash in one their session.
This brings me to my second point and the main argument I have. I think winning a session comes down to outside forces caused by vague circumstances. Jack Noir was a hassle for everyone, and the reason he became so powerful was of his own volition and because of the Beta Kids creating their sprites. The Alpha kids were able to survive purely because they happened to be ecto-related to another session of people that needed to jump to another session. Crazy stuff like that.
So if you want to know if there's a chance your party will win a session it comes down to two things; do they meet the win conditions, and do you want them to win? How stupid they might be is surprisingly irrelevant.
I hope this helps!
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Seer of Void
Funnily enough, I used to feel represented by this classpect most. Perhaps because I was an edgy early-teen.
For seers, there are many obstacles pre-SBURB from the opposite aspects and is shown mostly in an environmental sense. Rose Lalonde, a Seer of Light, is seen in a perpetual dark storm. Terezi Pyrope, a Seer of Mind, navigates their environment by smell and instinct rather than logic. A Seer of Void might be in a perpetual heatwave or wildfire, and sick shades would serve an actual purpose other than aesthetic.
As for hobbies, there's nothing to pin down. Everything Rose seems to be interested in has a purpose later on. Maybe a Seer of Void's hobbies might be a bit meaningless in the sense that none of it can be used to complete the game or their house is strewn with unfinished projects.
A Seer of Void's land is absolutely in pitch black in some sense. I can do a SBURB Land analysis some other day, though. Because I think the Seer of Void's skills are more interesting right now. A Seer of Void knows what is not important but not know what the plan should be.
"So what if we surround the enemy--"
"No. It won't work."
"Okay... We sneak arou--"
"Also no."
"Fine! What about an ambush! Would an ambush work?!"
"... Maybe??"
#homestuck#classpect#aspects#sburb#class#void#seer#seer of void#rose lalonde#terezi pyrope#seer of light#seer of mind#classpect analysis#homestuck analysis
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EXAMINER'S GLOSSARY
Classpect Analysis:
Knight of Space
Seer of Void
Character Analysis:
New Kids: Harry, Tavros, Vrissy, Yiffany
Jane Crocker
Class Analysis:
Heir: 1,
Knight: 1, 2,
Maid: 1, 2, 3,
Seer: 1,
Witch: 1,
Aspect Analysis:
(none yet.)
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I am between two options for Tavros Crocker's classpect. I think he is either a Mage or Bard of Blood.
Why I originally picked Mage of Blood was because he is being negatively impacted by most of his connections.
But now I am leaning towards Bard of Blood. First of all, how interesting it would be for Tavros to follow in Gamzee's steps. My understanding of the bard class is that they (consciously or not) invite destruction through their aspect, and there seems to be a battle between their aspect and the inverse in the beginning. Tavros Crocker so far has been desperate to stay out of family drama but has underlying spite towards them.
I assume Tavros Crocker is going to have a breaking point. His family (mostly Jane) goes too far and instead of cutting his ties he will destroy her using them. I hope it doesn't carry to his friends though.
#this has not updated in#THREE YEARS#homestuck#homestuck 2#bard of blood#tavros crocker#classpect#aspect#class#homestuck theories#homestuck analysis
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Vote Dave Strider as the new King of England!!
Round 2 Side A Poll 5
Arthur Pendragon (The Mechanisms)
"He's a cowboy. He lives on a space station that's slowly falling into the sun. He's in a poly relationship with Lancelot & Guinevere (theres a song about the pendragons being in love and it FUCKS.) He's got a trans son. In the end, he's the sole survivor. Hes even got a great song about his tragic fate."
"They are a sweet little baby! And a murderous space pirate! Love them"
Dave Strider
"Has a sword called Caledfwlch (excalibur)"
"Dave Strider is King Arthur coded but if King Arthur was a weedy 13 year old DJ wearing sunglasses."
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As a treat, I want to theorize about the Homestuck 2 Classpects. As we know, there is a set of four kids, totaling together with all the humans we have a set of twelve!!
Theoretically, this leaves us with bard, mage, sylph, and thief along with blood, doom, mind, and rage. To sort between Vrissy, Tavros, Harry, and Yiffany. It is safe to say this session will be a crazy one.
Possible classpects are hard to theorize as none of these classes or aspects have been seen in depth through the other two sessions on Earth. But here is how my theories stand as of now:
Harry is a Mage of Mind
Tavros is a Bard of Blood
Vrissy is a Sylph of Rage
Yiffany is a Thief of Doom
(These are subject to change so I will cover these characters in separate posts)
#homestuck#aspects#classpect#sburb#homestuck 2#class#blood#doom#mind#rage#bard#mage#sylph#thief#yiffany longstocking lalonde harley#harry anderson egbert#tavros crocker#vriska maryam lalonde#vrissy maryam lalonde
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Homestuck day is tomorrow and I'm acknowledging it now in case I forget!
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Based on this and seen through the ancestor the Sufferer, Kankri Vantas--a Seer of Blood--was probably very isolated but in a way free. Free because his status as a mutant blood (and overall lime blood status) would have him in big trouble.
So I just realized something about the lands in the medium for seers. They literally show their aspect. Before the player goes into the medium it seems to be the opposite.
Rose goes from her house that was always dark and raining, and quite unlucky, to a world that was so bright you were almost blinded.
Terezi, before she went to the medium where the sky was literally the mind, she was blind, leaving her alone to instinct, or emotions that guided her around, if that makes sense.
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Heir time!! Not heir of time, just my ideas on the class. Specifically the way an aspect connects with pre-sburb life and medium adventures.
Heirs are known for having immense amounts of their aspects but it's not easy to control. It doesn't even seem like they're supposed to. More like harnessed with awesome vibes.
It's seen pre-SBURB as John Egbert is able to get out of any scuffle with his dad. He is never able to be pinned down. This continues into the Medium and spreads to his teammates as none of them are stuck for long. Jade Harley can teleport, Dave Strider can travel through time, and Rose Lalonde can see and take actions towards the optimal future.
Unconsciously harnessing their aspect is also seen through Equius Zahhak, a Heir of Void. Throughout the series he is not mentioned often, and he is portrayed as unappealing to the readers which actually plays into the aspect well. After the trolls are effectively blocked from winning the game, they are able to hide in the void of their SBURB session. In fact, they are so well hidden that they are never found until Vriska Serket tries to solo Jack Noir.
I admittedly cannot remember much of Mituna Captor, a Heir of Doom. What I would theorize is that pre-SBURB he had a ton of constraints. This can actually be seen in the Captors' ancestor, 唯iioniic (yes. I had to copy and paste this name), who is bound to the Condesce's ship as the Helmsmen. Though the aspect obviously carries over later in the session when Mitunia and his eleven teammates die. A big whoopsie.
#homestuck#sburb#aspects#classpect#the medium#class#aspect#john egbert#equius zahhak#mituna captor#heir of breath#heir of void#heir of doom#heir#breath#void#doom#homestuck ancestors#condesce#helmsmen
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It seems like people like what I have to contribute to the Homestuck community despite being a decade late. I'm totally up for doing requests for analysis's on classes, aspects, classpects, and how that would be shown in a story-like progression! Maybe not the last part, some classpects do not have a lot to build off of.
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I'm going to talk about knights!!
Knights have the opposite of their aspect in the beginning of each SBURB session.
Dave Strider, a Knight of Time, feels more like he has a Space aspect. In his environment he is *far* away from everyone else. Dave is creative, and there's clear clutter in his house. Almost to the point where he seems similar to Jade Harley, a Witch of Space. There are key things early on that show this is not the case though. Dave Strider's creativity is focused on rap. There is a quote I once read that said "art is how we decorate space, and music is how we decorate time."
Karkat Vantas, a Knight of Blood, also has a similar problem. He is a mutated lime blood. Aside from the mutation, Karkat's blood type is actively being hunted down by his society and by proxy, it is very unsafe for him to get close to people. And Karkat pretends to hate everyone.
In reality this is not the case. Dave is not as cool and optimistic as he puts himself out to be, and Karkat is actually the person who talks most and starts connections.
This can also be seen in Latula Pyrope, a Knight of Mind. She acts as--emotional doesn't seem to fit--less than logical and critical than one would expect as a mind player. Unfortunately not a lot is seen of her until their SBURB session is lost, so we don't get to see her actions to a fuller extent. One could assume that like Terezi Pyrope, a Seer of Mind, actually has a strong sense of justice, which can be seen from her relationship with Mituna Captor.
#homestuck#sburb#aspects#classpect#dave strider#karkat vantas#latula pyrope#knight of time#knight of blood#knight of mind#terezi pyrope#seer of mind#mituna captor#class#time#blood#mind#knight
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Maybe the classes and aspects I do should be chosen via those wheel spinning things.
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I view life as the antithesis of doom, where doom seems to be fate, life is unpredictability. And to be fair, I didn't expect Jane to act like this after Homestuck so Hussie got me there lol. I looked at the aspect descriptions on The Extended Zodiac and states that people of the life aspect are concerned with "the betterment of themselves and those around them". Though this can vary a lot depending on classes (ex: a thief uses their abilities to take, and a muse uses their aspect to influence others). It's great world building, but it's so complicated.
Creating agency, life, and growth either way would not result in tasing a best friend's child with an electric collar. It seems a bit too far for it to be only Jane at work.
At first one would look at Jane's role in Homestuck 2 as utterly ironic. After all, Jane creates life and therefor chaos, she is not a maid of doom. So why would she be creating an empire of corporate tyranny?
Jane is going as far as to kidnap her best friend's child, Yiffany, have her sit on the ground with an electric collar and leash (a collar we know is electric because she uses it on the poor dog girl), and even uses technology that is identical to what the Condesce--one of the ending boss fights in Homestuck 1--used on a day to day basis. This is completely against Jane's nature.
Unless, this isn't Jane.
The emotions Jane presents are akin to Gamzee, the one who destroys with rage. But how would that fit together? While I'm unsure, I do have an idea why Jane is viciously working for Crocker Corp. Jane is a maid of life. She creates life. It was fitting that she works in the footsteps of the Condesce who happens to be a thief of life. Perhaps Jane never truly broke free from the Crocker headband.
Tl;dr I really hope Jane Crocker is still a good person.
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At first one would look at Jane's role in Homestuck 2 as utterly ironic. After all, Jane creates life and therefor chaos, she is not a maid of doom. So why would she be creating an empire of corporate tyranny?
Jane is going as far as to kidnap her best friend's child, Yiffany, have her sit on the ground with an electric collar and leash (a collar we know is electric because she uses it on the poor dog girl), and even uses technology that is identical to what the Condesce--one of the ending boss fights in Homestuck 1--used on a day to day basis. This is completely against Jane's nature.
Unless, this isn't Jane.
The emotions Jane presents are akin to Gamzee, the one who destroys with rage. But how would that fit together? While I'm unsure, I do have an idea why Jane is viciously working for Crocker Corp. Jane is a maid of life. She creates life. It was fitting that she works in the footsteps of the Condesce who happens to be a thief of life. Perhaps Jane never truly broke free from the Crocker headband.
Tl;dr I really hope Jane Crocker is still a good person.
#jane crocker#homestuck#homestuck 2#classpect#maid of life#thief of life#condesce#homestuck analysis#maid#thief#life#aspects
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