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shocking to me that there are people out there who really think that tom cruise doesn’t know about the homoeroticism of top gun not me though I have a brain that works
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hi there! as a writer, would you mind sharing your thoughts in writing Iceman’s character?
Hi anon! Thank you for your lovely question, I love getting asks!!! And I absolutely don't mind at all!! I'm not too sure how to answer, but I'll do my best! Hope this helps!
To me, Iceman is a very nuanced and complex character, with more depth then deeper you look under then surface, kind of like and iceberg (hehe, sorry, pun unintended!).
I write Iceman largely with an unreliable narrator tone when writing from a 3rd perspective or another person's perspective. He conceals alot of his more controversial opinions, including his identity as a homosexual man serving in the military (thank you Val Kilmer!). This environment and the need for secrecy creates a deeper need for control and a primal fear of being discovered.
I imagine this also leads to some imposter syndrome development later in life, particularly when he reaches higher ranks.
Overall, I think Iceman is a very warm and caring man that has to protect himself with tough, cold armour and holds himself at a higher standard. And I try to bring that through in my writing of him, especially from his own pov. Only Ice knows what actually going on on his head and his reasons for his actions. I find unreliable narrator fics brilliant for this reason.
There's potential for misunderstanding but he's just largely a genuinely good personality that wants the best for the people around him,but he's also flawed and has serious ambition to reach his goals, such as his drive to get the Top Gun trophy.
On the flip side, he also was the only one to sympathise with Maverick on his loss and not try to push him for more than he could do. Despite their rivalry and generally antagonistic relationship, he cares deeply about Mav and just wanted to make sure he was okay. He tried, which was more than what alot of other people who knew Mav did.
Ice can look stoic and unbothered all the while internally cooing over how cute the kitten playing across the room with a string of yarn is. The duality of this man is phenomenal and I love it!
For a few small headcannons I have for him:
He's a bit like a hedgehog I guess.
And I have a real love of writing him with a weakness for cute and comfortable things, like cats and big wooly jumpers. Alot of its in the smaller details, like how he runs cold alot of the time and loves bundling up in soft clothes, and wrapping himself up in the big blanket his babushka knitted for him.
He prefers tea over coffee, although he does drink coffee when he's on deployment to wake up quickly.
He doesn't really like dogs cause of an incident with an aggressive dog in his childhood but he loves cats and adores kittens.
And of course, I love writing icemav being soft! He has the biggest weakness for his menaces puppy eyes and his favourite thing to do in the world is to curl up with his beloved Mav with a book in hand,a cup of steming tea on the side and his babushkas blanket over them both, Mav asleep and relaxed into his side.
Thanks again for the ask anon, hope this helps!! Please let me know if there's any other questions, or if some of this didn't make sense! 😊😊😊
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The first kiss they share is in a corner of the Layton after hours and hours of celebrating. The kiss lasts no more than a few seconds because there's someone calling Mav's name, and the man is already looking that way, maybe to answer their shipmate. But Ice wants the kiss to go on for just a little longer, so he closes his hands around Mav's faces (and Mav can't help but think he has really soft hands for someone in their line of work) and they stay there, looking at each other for a few moments before they are kissing again.
(It becomes their thing, Ice's hands caressing Mav's cheeks or just touching them while the kiss. Mav's attention is all on Ice, and Ice can kiss him for as long as he wants. It gets to be their thing so much that it happens even when Ice is sleepy and hadn't his morning share of cuddles. It particularly happens a morning where Ice comes down for breakfast, Mav is talking with somebody Ice has no care for in that moment, and he just hugs Mav against his chest and shsh whomever the fuck is talking at six in the fucking morning on Sunday and he kisses Mav, just a pec because one of his hands find his way in Mav's hair and the other one on his cheek and then they are kissing, slowly and softly, Mav's back against the kitchen counter and no hurry in Ice's mind. When they are done, two or ten minutes later, Ice leaves one last kiss on his husband's lips before mumbling something about getting back to bed and that Mav should come with him. Around them is just silence but, once again, Ice doesn't a fuck because it's too early and he wants to sleep and be cuddle, damn.)
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I’ve been reading IceMav fanfics to forget. 😭
Once in a while, reality hits me — Iceman is dead.
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Once in a while, reality hits me — Iceman is dead.
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Paul Newman calling Tom Cruise “kitten” in an interview Christmas has come early to amanda marisatomay nation
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it’s missing him hours
#pete maverick mitchell#tom cruise#top gun#top gun 1986#top gun maverick#tomcruiseedit#topgunedit#tgmedit#filmedit#my edit#userakai
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Gonna die alone bc I’m only attracted to old men
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Top Gun: Maverick | The Amazing-Spider-Man 2
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nick morton cutie 🌷
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One thing I like about Top Gun (1986) is how believable the development with Ice and Mav's dynamic is.
I've seen a lot of the "Rivals suddenly become buddies after traumatic event together" in media, but I don't think I've seen it done better than in Top Gun. Mostly, I attribute it to how much build up it has.
Most of the time, the 'Rivals' hate each others guts throughout the entire movie/series and then they go through an extremely traumatic event that binds them for life and shifts their entire concept of each other. Ice and Mav never once changed how they saw each other, it just changed their understanding of it.
Ice saw Maverick as dangerous and Mav saw Iceman as stuck-up and commanding. And they weren't wrong, by any means.
From the beginning, they have tension between them because of how different they are. And it ends up in the audience seeing Ice as the 'Antagonist' because that's how Mav sees it, and we're seeing it from his perspective as the protagonist. But Ice was never inherently wrong, in fact he was right.
Other than his first scene, Iceman always has a point in what he's saying. He's criticizing Mav, not insulting him. Sure, he does it in a brash way because masculinity, but he's not trying to insult him, he's trying to knock him down a peg and wake him up to reality. All Ice wants is that he starts to act as a team player, start caring about everybody's safety AND his own, rather than being reckless for the sake of being reckless. But Mav sees it as an insult because he can't process criticism in a healthy way (due to how he grew up). The same thing happened with Charlie, for the record.
And so the strife between the two begins. What I like about it is how it bleeds out of them over time, becoming more settled as the movie goes on. In the locker room "You're dangerous" scene, the tension is palpable. It's obvious they're agitated by each other, and feel the need to prove they're the correct one.
If you pay attention, this whole... demand for superiority goes away as time progresses. They're fine with each other's presence, it's not like they're constantly at each others throat all the time. In the shower scene, Ice dropped all of the aggression and competitiveness from his tone and is instead just laying out what he thinks. He's not undermining Maverick, he's not lecturing him like a child. Iceman is just telling Maverick exactly how he sees the situation in hopes that it would make him realize what the fuck he's doing, but with little hope that it'll actually work.
That doesn't mean Ice is always correct either, he doesn't understand why Mav acts the way he does, thus fails to take into consideration the emotional trauma behind it. Which only causes even more strife.
The entire time, Iceman isn't being a dick for the sake of it, he just wants Mav to stop being stupid (by his standards). And Maverick doesn't understand it because all he gets from what Ice says is insults.
Maverick isn't good at understanding what people mean to say if it's implied, you need to say it to his face. This is the reason he stayed quiet in the shower scene, because Ice finally laid everything out in simple words that he can understand without making it sound like a dick-measuring contest.
Thing is, the tension mellows out. At the beginning, you could see the tension and cut it with a knife. By the middle you can see them getting used to each other without jumping to constantly trade jabs (namely: the volleyball scene, it's just a bunch of guys being dudes, and the scene where Charlie says that Mav flew recklessly in front of the whole class, Ice doesn't comment on it in any way). Over time, they've settled down into their tension without needing to address it all the time.
Then Goose dies.
And the tension between them is still there.
Just because Goose isn't there anymore, doesn't mean their whole dynamic vanishes all of a sudden. You can see their hesitation towards each other (especially Ice), and that's great! It demonstrates that Goose dying doesn't magically resolve their problems with each other in solidarity.
Ice tried to give his consolations to Mav, and is awfully awkward about it. You can see on his face that he wants to say more, but doesn't because he knows it's not his place given their history. And not much is said, but a lot it communicated. (Val Kilmer is a killer actor for this, OH MY FUCKING GOD BLESS THAT MAN)
Even in the graduation scene you can see how out of their depts they really are with each other. A stilted congratulations, that was it. But they're trying, and that's what matters.
A scene I think gets overlooked a lot is the scene right before the Layton, where Ice expressed his worries about Mav to Stinger, and Mav heard him. Because I feel like that was a shift that was more drastic than the Layton itself for them.
What Ice was doing in that scene wasn't doubting Maverick's flying abilities, it was his mental health. Sure, he passed the psych eval, but that means next to jack shit when in a real combat situation so close after his backseater dying. And Ice might be worried that he's gonna be left hanging, but with the way he was speaking I'm more inclined to believe he was more worried about Maverick's wellbeing than himself. Ice almost looked resigned. He knew it was gonna get dismissed because that's the military for you, but he still wanted to try to vouch for Mav to stay groundside, if only to keep his mind at bay.
But Maverick heard him, and as usual, he read it as an insult. He wasn't wrong to assume Ice didn't believe him capable of flying the mission, which wouldn't be a lie, but failed to realize that he had more than one reason to want Maverick on the ground rather than in the air. And for the first time, Maverick believes him.
Up until this point, Mav dismissed all of Ice's so called 'insults' because he was certain in and of himself. But now he isn't anymore.
And it affects his performance in the air. I'm not saying he was as shitty as he was at the start of that combat because of what he overheard, but I am saying that it certainly didn't help matters in the slightest.
So their weird 'stepping-on-eggshells' situation is all over the place by that point. Because they started to care about each other despite not being what one would call proper friends yet. It's establishing a potential friendship by implying that 1. Ice cares about Mav's wellbeing and 2. Mav cares about what Ice thinks.
On the ground, they have the wingman exchange, and their suddenly buddy buddy. Thing is, it wasn't sudden at all.
They've been setting this up the entire fucking movie.
Going back to what I said at the beginning: Ice thinks Mav is dangerous and Mav thinks Ice is stuck-up and controlling. After the Layton, they still think those things because they weren't wrong to begin with. What changed was that instead of seeing it as something that pitted them against each other, it was seen as something that simply was about the other, and that there was no changing it. It could be good.
Mav being dangerous could be good and Ice being stuck-up and controlling could be good, because those were just traits of who they were. By the end of the movie they didn't change how they saw each other, just how they interpreted each other.
And it was built up during the entire fucking movie.
There was a reason to why they acted the way they did with each other because of the stilted interpretation they had of each other. From rivalry to friendship (and perhaps more later down the line), it's glaringly obvious throughout that it wasn't a sudden shift, it was exponential.
That's why I think it was so well developed, because you could see it coming.
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how did my mind went from calm to a complete spiral of worries in just a few minutes?
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Pete wrapped his arm around Tom while gently playing with his hair.
“Hey, Mav?”
He could only looked at his husband and encouraged him to continue. Pete had no strength to talk without breaking.
“Will you still be my wingman in the our next life?” Ice said weakly.
Pete nodded with tears, “Forever and ever, babe.”
He felt Tom moved closer towards his embrace and released a slow, painful breath.
The flatline tone was the only sound Pete could hear.
— for @pollyna
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If they actually make another Top Gun movie, I will be so sad. The last thing I want to see it turn into is another easy money grab like they did with Marvel and Star Wars 😭 I used to love those so much, and then they became to me like fast fashion. Please don't ruin Top Gun too...
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If they actually make another Top Gun movie, I will be so sad. The last thing I want to see it turn into is another easy money grab like they did with Marvel and Star Wars 😭 I used to love those so much, and then they became to me like fast fashion. Please don't ruin Top Gun too...
#^ THIS#Don’t get me wrong; I miss them so much#BUT the movie was enough for me#Everything was perfect#I’m actually terrified that it might ruin the legacy they left with TGM#top gun#top gun maverick
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