Exactly. Cherri's relationship with Angel was far more interesting and important than with Sir Pentious for sure. They need more screentime together.

There is this awful comic about Cherri grieving pentius like she’d take that seriously for even two seconds, where she was a crying mess freaking out over what happened.

Like did they even pay attention to her character? Why is there so much more content about her non relationship with pentius and not her way more interesting friendship with Angel?

Hazbin lacked the concept of redemption from the start.

Can I talk about how absolutely hilarious this is? Ya, HH has a clear sense of who is deserving to be redeemed...even though the show directly supports Charlie's heavily simplistic "everyone can be redeemed" mentality and pushes the idea that everyone, even evil assholes who have done so many bad things, deserves redemption and second chances. That anybody has good in them even when they clearly don't.

Ya, ok.

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Welp, looks like I'll be having Emily eggs for breakfast!/j

i think emily’s true form would be so much better if she had like. a beak, so she’d look like a dove and not a damn spork.

Shh.

You'll give Viv ideas.

The day that Vivziepop decides to try and do autistic representation in her media is the day I think I'll kill myself.

I laughed way harder than I should've

DJ paranoid's original 'look my way' really grasped something that has been a problem in Helluva Boss for months. Something Viv was unable to accomplish, but I'm not surprised. And of course Viv changed the entire song just so it can further bring Stolitz to life. We couldn't even have the word 'Octavia' in the fucking music video, bro. It really shows how little Viv even cares that Stolas has a child to take care of. And it once again focuses on his 'love' for Blitz, instead of just, I dunno. Moving the fuck on and focus more on your daughter?

EXACTLY. You get my point. Like, imagine having an episode talking about SA but it immediately gets joked around episodes later when Sir Pentious is forcefully dragged into a room with a bunch of horny fucks. Istg, this show doesn't know whether it wants to take itself seriously or not at this point. To make matters worse, this could've easily made character development for Angel. We all know he's been forcefully r@ped by Valentino for so many years. You'd think he would try and drag Sir Pentious out of that situation so he wouldn't have to go through with the same fate. That would've been such an amazing moment. But no. Potential wasted. Nobody gives two fucks about Sir Pentious. It's all about Angel Dust and how his SA is the only one that needs to get taken seriously.

You know what confused me in season 1, guys?

Literally Husk's interactions with Angel throughout almost the entirety of season 1: getting harassed by Angel Dust and rightfully gets pissy with him.

Vaggie: Husk! Go comfort Angel! You made him run off like that. It's your fault.

Like, did this girl not pay attention to what Angel does to him in episode 1? Hell, did she not see their WHOLE conversation in episode 4 and how Husk was actively getting uncomfortable with Angel's flirting. How is it Husk's fault when Angel didn't even respect his boundaries. Even when Husk told him so many times to fuck off. RIGHTFULLY so. Angel was basically being a fucking creep. That doesn't make any sense.

That scene confused the fuck out of me bc what the fuck, Vaggie. I guarantee she'd be doing the same exact thing if Angel was playfully hitting on her like that every 24/7. Pilot Vaggie wasn't even this stupid.

Hey I'm just going to put this out there that if you sit there and say that "Valentino might've had some trauma for him to be hurting Angel like this-", but turn around and say "some people are just born evil when it comes to Stella", then something is clearly wrong with you./srs

All I'm gonna say is this; if Stella was a skinny boy twink with a bowtie, suit and stripes, razor teeth, and a hat, people wouldn't be framing her this much as the worst character in the world. How the fuck are you gonna sit there and say that Valentino, a R@PIST, might've had 'trauma', but then stomp on Stella and say "some people are just born evil". Like wtf. You are aware that some r@pists are born evil too, right? Seriously, the hh and hb fandom will always be those types of fandoms that confuse the fuck out of me bc their logic is questionable.

Just came across this fanart about Val. Almost all the replies and quote tweets agreed with OP’s statement. I find it so funny and crazy that the fandom understands abuse cycles or that villains can also have trauma (when it comes to Val).

But when you say Stella is a victim of a forced arranged marriage or she could’ve suffered from trauma too (especially from her brother), you’re a Stella sympathizer, an abuser apologist, or the fandom will say things like “She doesn’t need depth” and “People are just born evil”.

This is not a dig at OP because what they said was valid. However, I feel this just create more sympathy for Val.

You know what I noticed, guys? Val gets more fans, mind you, who is a r@pist, than a pissy bird women, who is apparently hated on the most just bc she hurt poor baby Stolas despite he and her literally getting a divorce (so why tf do people still shit on Stella but love Valentino. Stolas literally has the power now and people treat him as if he's a fucking baby who needs to be protected. Yes, I know she sent Striker to kill him, Stolas almost died, it's insane. But seriously, that's the only excuse these Stella haters make to any Stella lover), Stolas starting a whole ordeal with Blitzo and making him fuck his horny owl ass every night or Blitz will apparently lose his job if he didn't comply. Not to mention, he has a fetish for imps and chooses dick over his daughter. I have so much more I wanna say about this mf but that'll be for another post. He's no better than her.

Like, imagine saying Valentino is just a fictional character and then attacking anybody else who dares to say that they like and adore Stella. Trust me, I've seen this go on in the helluva boss fandom for quite a while now.

As I said before, I'm not always in the right. And people bring up better points. I saw this one comment where it implied that Vaggie might've walked in on the situation and thought Husk was the one that did something to Angel Dust instead. I actually took their word for it and agreed. Not because I felt like it, but it actually brings up good valid points. Maybe I'm a bit too hard on Vaggie. So I apologize if my post about that scene made it seem like I was getting pissy with Vaggie for no reason. It just made no sense to me. What I do agree with most too is the fact that Husk never even stood up for himself nor told Vaggie the context of the situation when Angel ran out. The scene made it seem like was Husk's fault when it was really Angel's. And that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Pretty fucked up.

Charlie doesn't scream princess of hell at all, and most times the girl is unable to use her authority because it would be too mean. Daughter of the most powerful motherfucking being in all of hell, but she's so weak. Hell, Vaggie takes the hotel more seriously than her. Charlie was better off being a sinner or a hellborn instead. She ain't fit to be royalty.

I actually feel pity for deaf people who watch helluva boss and then they go to the subtitles just to see that Viv and her team fuck around with it.

I'm only pointing this out bc I remember watching the 'Oops' episode, and the subtitles were just- holy shit. Idk if they changed it, but back then from what I've seen, it was honestly mind-blowing.

You know what confused me in season 1, guys?

Literally Husk's interactions with Angel throughout almost the entirety of season 1: getting harassed by Angel Dust and rightfully gets pissy with him.

Vaggie: Husk! Go comfort Angel! You made him run off like that. It's your fault.

Like, did this girl not pay attention to what Angel does to him in episode 1? Hell, did she not see their WHOLE conversation in episode 4 and how Husk was actively getting uncomfortable with Angel's flirting. How is it Husk's fault when Angel didn't even respect his boundaries. Even when Husk told him so many times to fuck off. RIGHTFULLY so. Angel was basically being a fucking creep. That doesn't make any sense.

That scene confused the fuck out of me bc what the fuck, Vaggie. I guarantee she'd be doing the same exact thing if Angel was playfully hitting on her like that every 24/7. Pilot Vaggie wasn't even this stupid.

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If anything, and this is just my opinion, Angel should be the one having suicidal thoughts. Stuck in an abusive environment, the princess of hell not doing shit despite having authority but she can't act because it'd be too mean, and getting r@ped 24/7 can really cause some damage to your mental health.

Millie suddenly feeling having self doubt, wanting to self harm and all this other crazy shit just came out of nowhere. No previous episodes show anywhere near Millie having these deep thoughts. The entirety of her character is just being Moxxie's wife and kicking ass. And the characters praise her for her intelligence and skills. Moxxie loves her. She really has nothing serious going on. So why in the fuck is Millie suicidal? Because the plot demands it, of course. Istg, I don't even know what Helluva boss is supposed to be anymore. Like many people have said, you don't need your character to have trauma or have any serious issues in order for that said character to be COMPELLING. But Viv just added that into Millie's character.

Yeah, well apparently we can't have the show call Charlie out on her flaws and lack of authority because "hEaVen Is sO So eViL! AdAm iS So eViL AnD dIsGusTiNg!" Charlie will always be in the right.

No matter what, I always found myself siding with Adam the most throughout the entirety of season 1. Because Charlie is just that stupid.