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"Good morning, Jack. How was your night?", Vardges Petrosyan (translated by metamorphesque)
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Eol’s fucking death man, it gets to me
It’s just… Maeglin spends his youth hearing two different stories about his mother’s people. On one hand, they’re the cleverest elves with the most beautiful cities and on the other they’re kinslayers and invaders
Emphasis on the kinslayers
And then Maeglin, Eol, and Aredhel converge on Gondolin, and it is a beautiful city, but they’re also given a choice: stay or die
And Eol chooses death.
He tries to choose so for his son, instead kills Aredhel (that notably being her choice), betrays part of what he so hated about the Noldor, and then they throw him off a fucking cliff
Christ. So here’s my question. Where did the Noldor get the idea for state-sanctioned murder?
For state-sanctioned kinslaying
Where/how/why does Turgon get the idea that this is okay based on previously established Elf morals on killing? Did he invent state-sanctioned executions?
Did Valinor have state-sanctioned murder, and this was considered acceptable because they become ‘jailcrows of Mandos’? Where do Elves get the concept for jails otherwise? I mean, I doubt this is the case, but otherwise this has some serious implications for Turgon’s character.
Because it means he saw the First Kinslaying (which his brother participated in) and decided: this is okay when I do it for a good cause.
Which is exactly what Feanor thought
He just adds bureaucracy and the veneer of civilization to it, decides this doesn’t /really/ count as ‘kinslaying’ and starts murdering anyone who stumbles on his city but doesn’t want to be imprisoned in it. That’s some fucking hypocrisy there, by Elf morals
And Maeglin, whose been told his whole life that his mothers people are murderers, upon entering Gondolin, has that immediately proven right
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the prince and the knight.
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One thing I always feel very important about the whole Maeglin selling out Gondolin for life & freedom matter is…
Morgoth promised him lordship and Idril AFTER Maeglin already told him about Gondolin’s location and defense secrets.
Yeah obviously the promise of power and Idril might be what kept him in line and continue to cooperate with Morgoth after returning to Gondolin (can be interpreted in various ways from “the world is ending better take care of my own desire” to “the world is ending better preserve what I can still save”)
But the lordship and Idril were NOT what directly caused the initial betrayal.
Here comes my dumb headcanon:
Maeglin initially cracked not because of anything related to Idril and Tuor.
He cracked because of the torture & what Turgon did to Hurin.
When Hurin came to seek help nearly three decades after his imprisonment, Turgon assumed Hurin was released because he sold out the location of Gondolin for freedom. Turgon was overwhelmed by this assumption and let emotions run over his own judgement (again). He directly told the eagle “my heart is shut,” and refused to take Hurin in.
Of course Turgon changed his mind after calming down. But it took too long; the night fell and the eagles could not find Hurin again. From Hurin’s pov he was abandoned by his friend (or even a father figure), and thus was driven to complete despair, crying out in pain, accidentally letting Morgoth know the general location of Gondolin.
I think it is rather possible that Maeglin knew of this, at the moment or later.
Then when he got captured by Morgoth and put through tortures, he would realize he was essentially in the role of Hurin.
Turgon did love Maeglin. But Maeglin knew Turgon treasured Hurin too. The king treasured Hurin enough to make an exception and let the brothers leave the city to return home. Probably after Unnumbered Tears Turgon also built statues in Gondolin honoring Hurin. But when Hurin actually showed up at door and seeked help? Turgon immediately grew suspicious and assumed that Hurin betrayed the city.
And Morgoth could even tell Maeglin what really happened to Hurin. How Hurin endured torture for 28 years without betraying Gondolin, but was viewed as traitor and abandoned by the king of Gondolin anyway. How Turgon became the last straw that break Hurin into leaking the location. How ultimately it was thanks to Turgon’s closed heart that Maeglin got captured.
In a word, I think what caused Maeglin’s betrayal was him realizing that
Morgoth could torture him forever
No one from Gondolin would come to save him (And other realms had fallen so there was really no hope)
Even he suffered forever to keep the secrets, it was expected and not appreciated by Gondolin
Even if he found a way to escape back to Gondolin, he might still be rejected/executed by Turgon because no one was allowed to lead danger to Gondolin (according to “of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin”)
Morgoth already knew the general location, no matter he cope or not Gondolin would eventually be found. And then Turgon would believe it was him that betrayed Gondolin anyway.
So yeah.
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I just think Turgon rejecting Hurin should has more long term damages than letting Morgoth knew the general location of Gondolin (which was already very bad).
It was something that could send out all the wrong messages and greatly damage the morale. I always imagine the event was kept as a secret, and even most of the lords did not know about the matter.
I think Tuor absolutely was kept out of it and he never knew he was so close to meeting his uncle until after the Fall.
Idril probably knew it, and helped to keep the secret from Tuor, and felt guilty. And that was one of the crucial moments that made she further distrust Turgon’s judgement. (I want all the “my father did an evil thing and I am helping him to keep it as a secret” angst)
Maeglin… Actually fought the losing war along with Hurin and Huor and was there when they sacrificed themselves to help troop of Gondolin escape. IDK I think that’s another “silently pondering in horror” moment for him. And he kept thinking about it, and kept trying to not thinking about it, until Morgoth forced him to think.
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“ Beauty and a beast “ // Elias Kalliola
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LOOK AT THIS PERFECT HANDSOME COMMANDER
i commissioned @shop5 as part of the PCRF fundraiser and look! at him!!! delighted :):) tysm
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'kallus experiments with his hair in the rebellion' the sequel book
part two of this post
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oh captain my captain
Commission
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I think Galadriel deserves to punch Annatar in the face, as a treat <3
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Once again thinking about how Bo Katan had the audacity to pull the “my sister’s dead :(” card after she spent most of her life as second-in-command of a terrorist group whose sole goal was to assassinate Satine.
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