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I happy to live in a era TGC is praised by his work.
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SO AEGON AND AEMOND CODED!
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Ewan and TGC content dropped. Lmao I manifest this.
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They need to drop new content soon because people are starting to get bored and coming with the most insane theories. Like Otto and Aemond actually being the ones behind blood and cheese.
#house of the dragon#You are all bored as fuck and it shows.#LMAO#aemond targaryen#otto hightower#team green
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EMILY CAREY as ALICENT HIGHTOWER | House of the Dragon, ep.3
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The topic of "Whitewashed" Green and Blacks my honest opinion.
This something that I have been thinking since watch the show, and it have been a topic discussed from both sides that I saw in the fandom.
But there is majority difference is how is done on TB and TG.
For exemple Alicent is a complete different character from the books. She is less a stereotype evil stepmom and more like a protagonist of Dostoevsky story. And we see in the show part of her book characterization showing up. Still I feel like her character is way more complex and add to the over all tragic aspect of the big narrative. And even her more controversial moment, like the infamous last scene with Viserys, it fits her character from what we see before, to have confirmation bias moment so she could do what she already deeply wished, because is part of Alicent characterization even though some aspects is contrived and I don't took away from people that found out that scene dumb. And that goes in a similar fashion to Aemond, it have base on things they already have stablish way before.
"The idea that we control dragons is an illusion " - Visery
" A dragon is not a slave". - Daenerys Targaryen
But when comes to TB whitewash it doesn't add to story and sometimes is even contradictory what they even stablish before. The most clearly exemple of this is Daemon and Rhaenyra.
The first episode of the show we have Daemon giving Rhaenyra neckless what is a nod to part of the book that heavy implied the grooming aspect of their relationship. And is very important aspect for understand his political motivations behind his actions, arguably some even could say he himself play a part on creating the family feud. It doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings for her. But in the show? Is very romantized and underplayed and is contradictory.
Daemon took her to the brothel, took her hat off exactly for everyone to see her white hair, he wanted to expose her. And then He left her there, because it was supposed the moment of " I spared you" that Daemon talks to Rhaenyra on the beach years later. Whatever it doesn't work, because at this point he already got what he wanted. Ruined her reputation so they could married. But we as the audience should see this redeeming quality.
Whatever this is small compared to Rhaenyra that in the process of making her more sympathetic and "Not like other girls" they make her incredible dumb and inconsistent.
House of the Dragon has a lot time jumps, and in between young and old transition for Young Alicent to Old Alicent is well done and make sense for her character. But Rhaenyra? Well is so hard to connect her young self and old self.
What we know about Young Rhaenyra?
She likes to ride on her dragon.
She is bold and reckless. She has "the blood of the dragon".
She have been part of the small council for a time.
She doesn't want kids.
And she even says to Alicent, she can't think of anything worse than be trap in castle giving birth to children.
And what is the first scene of old Rhaenyra? She is giving birth. There is some sad irony here if was made on porpoise. But a lot of what she was, isn't a thing anymore. A lot of her characteristics are wash out.
Alicent ask to bring her baby to her. And Rhaenyra, as political move decides to go there and take her own child. It shows how much power in a small time Alicent gain over.
What is not something she already had so much in the book. Even so, in the book is Alicent that suggested a marriage between Helaena and Jace. Because at this point in the history, Rhaenyra still holds the power.
But in the show. Even despite Rhaenyra being part of the small council longer and the legitimate heiress. She lost political power agaist Alicent.
And that has nothing to do with Rhaenyra being a woman, because Alicent as well is one, and even someone that has way less cards on the game. That is all because of the incredible bad choices she done.
First she decided to bear children outside a marital union. Generating bastards that according to the law, this is treason and only for that her and her children would be kill. And you could say she doesn't have that much choice since her husband won't sleep with her and she need to produce an heir for her lineage to continue and because of the prophecy.
Whatever how she goes on about this is what genuinely sink her down in a level of delusional. Because instead of going to summer Islands and have a baby with black man, and the only difference would be a black hair, and so what would be more on pair with the level of book suspicions about the legitimacy, she decides to try to have white children and wants to pass them off as the children of a biracial man. 😭
And she does that in front of everyone. And then she decides to leave in the worse possible moment. Doing so the greens took over.
And that is the funniest part about the Dance in the show. Because the greens, they don't create the situations that lead them to power. But actually they just explore the incompetence of the TB.
Whatever at same time we supposed to feel bad of Rhaenyra because she bled out and her humiliated herself when she started to lactation in the small council ( even though is logical because this medieval times, people don't care about this, even game of thrones we have a woman breastfeeding a boy Infront everyone).
All her acts from now on is done exclusively out desperation so the audience feel bad for her. We supposedly to see her a victim of bad propaganda and that is why her fans like her. I think this tweet make a good exemple of what I mean and how her fans see her:
Rhaenyra that once was bald and reckless act out of despair. She fake her husband death because she needs to marry Daemon because otherwise she feels powerless and lost. She begs for her father's support after being away from him for years. And then different from the books when she her sons are promised to Varyans since their childhood, she suggested a marriage out desperation.
Because that way her acts feel less part of responsibility, even though she was the one that got herself in this position.
Whatever there is a part of her character that continued since her young age. When her and Daemon stop and saw people making fun of her, she showed a lack of interest on what the small folk think of her. And in the same episode she seduce Cole to go to bad with her, even know this could cost his life. And when adult she kill a man without thinking. She doesn't care for the people she should reign over if that enters in the middle of her self interests.
She doesn't want war, and supposedly care about the prophecy, but put almost no effort to it when clashes with her own interests.
#anti team black#anti rhaenyra targaryen#pro team green#team green#pro alicent hightower#alicent hightower#ser criston cole#aemond targaryen
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Oh for sure! They want a villain they would love to hate. Not a character to like.
If Alicent was adapted directly from the books people would just call her a knock off version of Cercei. Even she is not. But they would.
The show have many flaws but the one thing they done right was making Alicent a way more compelling and complex character instead of the evil stepmom trope.
If AlIcEnT wAs LiKe ShE wAs In ThE bOokS wE wOuLd LiKe HeR.
NO. NO YOU WOULNT.
Me and the Alicent stans and team green members would love to see that side of her but, not all of those „book Alicent fans” who constantly make her out to the be the devil, because obviously Alicent at 18 years old was having sex with Jaehaerys, Daemon and Viserys. She was obviously the worst person to ever exist and needs to be tortured in as many ways as possible.
They don’t want Alicent from the books, they want to be able to be as misogynistic and hateful to her as possible with little to no consequences.
They literally couldn’t handle Alicent as a child, and were making fun of her being raped, and were rightfully called out on their disgusting behaviour, yet still continued doing it.
They just want a woman that they can hate.
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Alicent, aemond, helaena calm after the storm
#fanart#house of the dragon#aemond targaryen#illustrator#digital artist#hotd#hotd fanart#alicent hightower#helaena targaryen
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This is so funny to me lol. Besides bloodline Aegon and Helaena are married, what is on pair of Targaryen costumes. Helaena is a dreamer, that is very connected of the magic that comes from Targaryens. Aemond speaks Valyrian better than any of TB kids. Please. They are Targaryens though and thought
team black calling aegon helaena aemond and daeron hightowers is hilarious when all of them are as targaryen as they come
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I love the argument of team black being a functional family as a reason to root for them instead of the greens, as if that's what makes the greens less likeable. The relationship between the greens is what makes them so interesting to me.
Aegon and Aemond don't like each other, but they'll still fight along side one another no matter what. Daeron doesn't have much of a relationship with his siblings, niece, or nephews, but he's willing to go to burn down a town in an emotional fit of rage for Maelor. Alicent's complex relationship with her children, especially with Aegon, and her father. Criston has been made to fill some sort of familial role, but can never do too much because of his station and the rules that go along with it. Helaena is obviously perfect and has a decent relationship with everyone.
They all care about one another but find it hard to truly express that, but when their backs are against the wall they'll fight together to save each other.
#house of the dragon#alicent hightower#daeron the daring#aegon ii targaryen#criston cole#hotd#aemond targaryen#The doomed children are always more interesting#otto hightower#pro team green#they are a messy group of people and its why i love them
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I hate here but that explains why the actors sounds so off in most interviews. They can speak anything that HBO is on their neck.
Just remembered this bit from TGC's interview for Esquire published back in October 2022:
and now my hopes for hearing the cast discussing their characters in the promo materials before the season comes out are nearly dead. HBO most likely won't let them say anything (spoilery or not).
So for now we better brace ourselves for more "Let's have TG and TB fight each other" and/or retellings of character arcs from season 1.
And now some positivity:
1. We can still have the photoshoot pics;
2. There is hope that when the season at last comes out we will feast. They better let the actors speak their minds in the interviews.
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ALL THIS!!!
I know this may just sounds more water under the bridge at this point. But the argument that TB brings on the trailer just reinforce again why I am TG.
The fact they failed so bad to stablish TB kids as individuals characters instead of a collective mind. Just look how when TG spoken they talked more about individual motivations, while when the TB kids speak it was all so in general and as a group.
They feel like they don't have a internal reasoning. Because if they had they wouldn't be such a great family after all.
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Exactly. And This is so funny because they try to use modern logic to criticize and debunk why Aegon shouldn't be king and why Alicent is wrong for not "standing for woman". But at same their only argument for Rhaenyra to be queen is exactly monarchist logic of "rightfull queen", not by merit, not by popular choice only inheritance laws.
I know this may just sounds more water under the bridge at this point. But the argument that TB brings on the trailer just reinforce again why I am TG.
The fact they failed so bad to stablish TB kids as individuals characters instead of a collective mind. Just look how when TG spoken they talked more about individual motivations, while when the TB kids speak it was all so in general and as a group.
They feel like they don't have a internal reasoning. Because if they had they wouldn't be such a great family after all.
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I love this!!! Because is so true. What they are more now then just tools to make Rhaenyra look good?
I know this may just sounds more water under the bridge at this point. But the argument that TB brings on the trailer just reinforce again why I am TG.
The fact they failed so bad to stablish TB kids as individuals characters instead of a collective mind. Just look how when TG spoken they talked more about individual motivations, while when the TB kids speak it was all so in general and as a group.
They feel like they don't have a internal reasoning. Because if they had they wouldn't be such a great family after all.
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i need to talk about laenor for a minute
"he was happy!" "ha wanted to leave his family!"
mmmm are you sure?
because in ep 6 he wants to leave KL, yeah, but he def does not want to disappear. he wants to join his family in the stepstones. he's tired, he's done. he has "played his part". was he really that happy with his modern family in KL? because it sure didn't sound like it when rhaenyra has to command him to stay by her side because she needs him to keep covering up for her.
when rhaenyra and daemon had that convo in ep 6 when rhaenyra wanted to have laenor killed and daemon convinced her to give him a choice.
the choice was go away or we'll kill you.
they actually went to laenor on his sister's funeral, when his family needed him the most and made him leave. laenor wanted to leave KL to join his family in the stepstones. he never wanted his family to think he's dead, especially not when they've just lost laena.
and that plot makes 0 sense because if laenor ever comes back rhaenyra and daemon will be branded as liars and traitors & their children will be declared as illegitimate. not to mention, if rhaenys and corlys ever find out about what they did their alliance is over. like rhaenys will literally burn them. the fact that they knew how much corlys and rhaenys suffered and still chose not to tell them about laenor is so messed up.
#I think is such a jump to say he was happy for leaving#That man loved his son's even if aren't his#And then leaving in the day his sister died after reaching the conclusion he should be there for her be there for his family#The true is he probably gone because he leaves or either he dies#laenor valeryon#laena velaryon#corlys valeryon#hotd
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I know this may just sounds more water under the bridge at this point. But the argument that TB brings on the trailer just reinforce again why I am TG.
The fact they failed so bad to stablish TB kids as individuals characters instead of a collective mind. Just look how when TG spoken they talked more about individual motivations, while when the TB kids speak it was all so in general and as a group.
They feel like they don't have a internal reasoning. Because if they had they wouldn't be such a great family after all.
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