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whatevvvs · 29 days
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On Feyd Rautha and moral complexity in Dune...
(I will preface this by saying that overall I loved the new film and it is, in many ways, a total masterpiece HOWEVER that doesn't mean I don't have notes)
His origin...
In the first book I think it's only vaguely stated that Feyd is the younger child of the Barons half brother Abulard who renounced the Harkonnen name and fled to Lankiveil (a cold frozen planet covered in ocean). How he came to live with the Baron is vague but it's implied that Rabban killed their parents and then the Baron took him in as a possible protege. What makes this all the sadder is that Feyds parents saw the evil that their house was committing and fled, thinking that in Feyd they might have a child who wouldn't fall to the same greed and cruelty as their older son did. Obviously that didn't come to pass.
This means that at a relatively young age his parents were murdered by the much older brother he hardly knew and he was sent to live on Geidi Prime with an Uncle he had likely never met. He was then raised by the baron (who is a paedophile implied to be at the very least attracted to him) and Piter de Vries, the families twisted mental.
From this point he would have received nothing remotely comparable to the love that Paul got from his family, likely praised only when he showed qualities that the Baron deemed favourable and always aware that his position was in the balance as he competed with Rabban (who he didn't like) to take over as Baron.
So yes, he's a ruthless and cold character but all of that was born out of his traumatic and likely abusive childhood. How else could he have survived in that kind of environment? Who else did he have to learn from?
In many ways this is the inverse of Paul, whose mother had a boy against the orders of the bene Gesserit possibly in the hopes of creating the Kwisatz Haderach (positioning him intentionally right at the centre of universal politics). Feyds parents wanted him to be safe and away from all that and they died for it and left him alone, while Paul's parents wanted him at the centre and (at least for a while in the case of Leto) were there to support him intensely the whole way, loving him and guiding him to be what they thought was an honourable or admirable person.
They're the same at their heart, Paul and Feyd, bred to be that way and in another universe, married to continue a path they were always meant to walk together. They only diverge so wildly because of the vast difference in circumstances and guidance that they received.
Dune is all about the parts that people are forced to play and the way ideology and environment shapes people's philosophies and that is what the Feyd/Paul dichotomy shows. In another life they could have followed one another's paths very easily.
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whatevvvs · 29 days
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Everytime I see some interview or review about how amazingly 'terrifying' Austin Butler was as Feyd-Rautha I die a bit inside. Like how could they miss the point so entirely?
The baron is terrifying, Rabban is terrifying, Piter is terrifying but Feyd? Yeah sure he'll kill without remorse, he'll plot, he's sneaky and will even enjoy inflicting pain if it strokes his ego or ambition but in the context of his house....... He's the most reasonable one! The charismatic one, the one that the people can love. He's the Harkonnens' best face, their ticket to leading the universe, not by pure violence but by marriage and politics. He's even born of a father who tried to run away from them entirely.
The way that Feyd is supposed to take power is by being MORE MERCIFUL AND MORE REASONABLE than the harkonnens who came before. Even if he's motivated by ambition rather than kindness (so is Paul, in many ways), he's supposed to swoop in and RESCUE the people of Arrakis from the hands of his brute brother. JUST LIKE PAUL HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SEEN AS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE, if not an outright saviour.
Yes he's cruel and yes he is scheming but the savagely they keep ascribing to him in the movie belongs to Rabban and the true psychopathic sadism to Piter, and then finally obviously the Baron is the worst evil schemer there is. I do not understand why they've given him a bunch of traits that are better exemplified in the other members of his house and gotten rid of the things that made him a unique Harkonnen enemy and an effective mirror to Paul.
Hell in the book he even LOOKS like Paul (curly dark hair) and it's implied that the baron is attracted to both of them, implying he has a certain type.
Sigh.
It just feels so lazy and uninventive, but most of all it's just a shame because it's so much less interesting than it could have been. Compared to that, having him do a batman voice and feed people to his cannibal harem for fun is just so.... lame.
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does Gotham High read like someones high school au Wattpad fic?? yes, yes it does (no like the Joker vapes and makes out with Selina more than once its rough guys) but also,,,, the way Bruce is drawn more than makes up for it. look at him. lil guy. 
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Two-Face is probably just so fucking whipped for Bruce. Like he’s spent his entire life feeling like a parasite, being told he’s evil and needs to go, that Harvey cannot heal with him…but then there’s Bruce, who’s just like giving them both equal affection. Calling Two-Face by his name when he’s fronting. Accepting him as a part of Harvey instead of viewing him as something evil that needs to go away. Two-Face falls ass-over-teakettle and straight up tells Harvey, ‘If you don’t make a move then I’m gonna just ask him to marry me.’
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I do like characters who do not exhibit any hint of sexuality in any way because they’re too busy being tormented by the narrative. like “yea I might be gay or whatever but the labyrinth is growing so I can’t worry about that shit rn”
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After mission cuddle
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Shoutout to my fav failed eugenics experiment
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taps the mic. hilly what are your thoughts on the nature of feydpaul asking for a friend (the friend is me)
No strong feelings really... Pretty impartial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
Unless we're talking about the fact that they're narrative foils, they're star-crossed lovers. They're polar opposites, they're the same person. They were born to either kill one another or give birth to the most important child who ever lived. Neither of them has ever had a real friend their own age and they didn't even know enough about normal childhoods to mourn not having them. I almost never think about the complex elements of gender present in the fated relationship in a boy with the powers of a female witch, who was supposed to be born a girl, and another boy with pouty lips whose favourite weapon is poison (famously a feminine choice) and wears flares and leotards and lives under the thumb of a powerful, abusive older man.
I especially almost never ponder the fact that one of them tried to kill the other in the most Freudian imaginable possible way - cunty secret poison hip knife - because that simply has no strange and interesting implications which I could theorise about for hours over a bottle of japanese whiskey. The symbolism of penetration and killing thing Vs as bringer of new life, especially in the insanely penetration obsessed world of Dune. (Knives and breeding programmes and worms, whole topic in itself for sure)
It also means nothing to me when I think of they ways in which they were so uniquely isolated. Both having members of their families killed and being thrust into positions where ambition and power seem like the only way to keep themselves alive and sane and safe. It means nothing to me when I consider that no-one in Feyd's life ever genuinely loved him, probably not up until his death, not even Frank Herbert who never even bothered to bring him up again after the first book. I never think about the ways both of their families decay and crumble after they're gone, their children either suffering bizarre fates or disappearing. How even their legacies are bloody and stained.
Never before have life and death and fate and trauma and power and hope and destruction (both of the self and the other) been so entwined in characters with less interaction, and as you can see .... I really have no opinions on it one way or another.
Plato said this about them and it makes me feel really normal, actually.
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(thank you for asking - as you can see, they make me deeply unwell and I haven't had a full nights sleep since the second movie came out. Living the dream wouldn't change a thing <3)
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Feyd-rautha as a near final kwisatz haderach gives me ‘extremely inbred prize chihuahua’ energy
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NPCS!
Squeem
Aelwyn
Fabian
Gorgug
Kristen pt 2
Fig
Riz
Adaine
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whatevvvs · 1 month
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You think paul is such a solid fighter because duncan has been training him so he’s essentially been fighting a freight train for like ten years
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Ok ok but “Paul runs just a little bit faster and ends up on the other side of the door with Duncan” is such rich AU territory because of all the different character threads you can pull out of it, including but not limited to:
- Duncan getting to see Paul fight in a real battle, not the training room, after what, at least ten years of training this kid? That moment of transition when you’re no longer teacher and student but comrades-in-arms fighting side by side to defend each other. Being afraid for Paul, sure, but also maybe not being able to help being so proud when he’s able to hold his own at least enough to not die.
- Duncan having to see Paul fight in a real battle and it’s this one.
- Duncan getting to see Paul fight in a real battle and maybe Paul is a little bit scary actually.
- If Duncan lives (not guaranteed in this AU! if you want to be extra cruel), the emotional whiplash of psychologically preparing yourself to die nobly fighting to protect people you care about, and then…not.
- Duncan processing the fact that Paul ran full tilt toward some of the most dangerous fighters in the universe with no shield and no weapons, because he wanted to protect Duncan, when it’s supposed to be the other way around.
- Paul has no weapons and Duncan has two swords, right? You see where this is going. Something something the intimacy of handing someone your own weapon to fight with.
- Paul realizing that he saw this in a dream but he changed it; not everything has to happen exactly as he dreams it.
- Whatever Jessica does differently when it’s not just Duncan but Duncan and Paul on the other side of the door.
- Paul having his first experience of combat and, probably, his first experience of killing someone and having a trusted friend, mentor and experienced soldier around to talk about it with after.
- Post-battle “oh thank fuck you’re alive”/“why did you do that”/“you think I would just let you–” and all that good stuff.
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whatevvvs · 1 month
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So I just watched Dune for the second time, and need to talk about that duel.
The visions that Paul has before finding the Fremen set Jamis as a friend. His words allow Paul to “let go” and survive the storm, and he says that he’ll teach Paul the ways of the desert. I guess in a way, he did. I didn’t know which actor was playing Jamis when I went into the movie for the first time, so it came as a shock to me when I realized that the person they’d been showing as a future friend and ally was in actuality the first person that Paul would murder. 
The vision that Paul has before the duel shows his death. Paul’s death. A possible future. A choice. The voices overlying the scene became more clear the second time around. Either way, Paul Atreides dies. We see Paul’s death at the hand of Jamis, and then we hear that if Paul kills, he will also be “killing” himself and allow the Kwisatz Haderach to rise. 
Paul dies in that duel. When he stands, when he has that blood on his hands, when he walks away from the corpse on the ground, the expression on his face is one of darkness. The soundtrack in that moment turns menacing, and for a second you wonder why you’ve been rooting for him.
Paul takes the first steps towards evil in that duel. 
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Every time I see one of those Artfully Windswept shots of Paul I just think about how his floppy emo hair is the absolute worst length for the desert and at some point Chani is like look trust me on this, either cut it short or grow it out long enough to pull back; he opts for the latter and that’s how he ends up with a gaggle of sietch children following him around angling for a chance to braid his hair.
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TIMOTHÉE CHALAMET — Behind The Scenes of DUNE: PART TWO (2024)
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So Paul has that black cloak that he wears for the end of the movie, right? We all know the one.
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The first time he has it on is after he wakes up from drinking the Water of Life, in the "we're Harkonnens" conversation with Jessica. He wears it for the rest of the movie.
I never particularly questioned how this cloak showed up on the scene cause like, we get it. It came from the Symbolism Closet. Black is associated with the Harkonnens, sure, but it's also the color of the Atreides formal dress Paul wears in Part One and the color the Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother wears. Black is the color of power.
But then I was looking at this production photo from the Part Two art book:
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and now I'm obsessed with the idea of the cloak being one of the layers of Jessica's costume--either the dark layer that we can see under the white/gray and brownish fabric, or the layer under that.
Just imagine her wrapping him up in it at some point, as he's recovering from being mostly dead. It's motherly and intimate and it might seem like comfort. But also she's claiming him, because she won. Giving him one layer of the many many layers of fabric that she's wearing by the end, isolating her from everyone else. Literally putting the mantle of power on his shoulders and making it look like love.
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