Another show of support for Tenoch. Apologies if this has already been posted by someone else. The story sounds familiar, but not sure if I saw it here or on Twitter. The translation at the bottom is from an app powered by Google translate, so....😬 If anyone has a better translation, feel free to add. 😉

EDIT: Swapped ou screenshot with a better translation.

@cutelatinagirl @cantstayawaycani @observers-journal @sarahivi @scoobydooisadetective @luzsp9-1981 @namorslutfanfiction @soledadmiranda @too-many-atoms

Another show of support for Tenoch. The Spanish is first and English translation is second.

@cutelatinagirl @cantstayawaycani @observers-journal @sarahivi @scoobydooisadetective @luzsp9-1981 @namorslutfanfiction @soledadmiranda @too-many-atoms

Wait cause wtf

Did Elena Rios really just post text messages that prove that the Tenoch stealthing situation was something someone mentioned in passing and not something that actually happened to her personally? I already thought it was weird she mentioned it in general terms and not direct in her first statement, but is this why?

Ok. So now, here on my blog, I'm saying believe women FIRST, but it is looking increasingly like Maria Elena Rios is lying.

ETA this comment because facts:

Just wanna say one thing. If Tenoch is guilty, hold him accountable. I'll shut this blog if that happens.

BUT if Elena is found guilty in this, she must be held accountable too. She will be responsible for ending this man's career before it even took off.

Read this if you are still struggling with this. It may help you come to terms and make sense of how you feel.

It's so funny seeing you all get upset that your favorite actor is probably a trash person. Like I can't even with some of the posts I've read on here already trashing Maria Elena Rios. Like imagine getting that wet over some dick you'll never get to even see. He's not gonna fuck you I promise you that. But yeah continue writing your fanfictions about a character in a marvel movie that wasn't even good. Y'all scream feminism at the top of your lungs everyday on this app but get silent real quick when it's your favorite actor that's a creep.

Hi, I've been reading your asks and I agree with you. The only reason I'm writing is because I'd like to point out that we don't personally know him, so we don't know if he's a manipulator or is using feminism aor any fight as a façade. I think it's unfair to bring biased perceptions or points of view into this because there's a lot of people looking for info to add to this fire. We should be more mindful about throwing accusations about both parts around when it's just our thoughts/opinions. This is a serious matter and should be taken as such.

Hello! Yesss i agree with you too!!!

I also said a similar thing in a previous ask I answered, how I don't participate in theories and assumptions about him or her. I don't see a use to it contributing to anything good. If he's innocent that would be sooo unfair, if he's not well he won't be able to keep that 'facade' forever and we'll all know eventually. So yeah, just leaving it to time, and kinda disassociating myself from this only for when there's major news or developments..

Regarding the tenoch history, I wish racism was being blocked and not diffused by twitter and other websites, for latin and women of color it is going to be double victimisation and abuse, abuse from the misogynist side and abuse with racism. Me huerte el corazón.

I wish that too.. And yeaah that's the sad part about it, the double harm as you said. I'm sorry that you have to witness that.

I guess the anon meant Jonathan Majors. Can we stop comparing the two? We're talking about two different situations, both serious as fuck in their own ways. It feels a bit racist if I'm honest, almost as if the anon was saying gotcha! Moc are violent. Majors did it, huerta is just like him. (I mean they are saying they both had the same 'charisma'. Tf you mean by that?)

Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Personally that's not how I read it or thought of it, I don't think they meant it that way.

But If you read my reply I didn't engage w that part of the message about Tenoch possibly being manipulative/narcissistic/chatismatic and all... I am simply not intressted in theories since we know everything will be out and clear one day. I believe that. The truth will be out. I don't see a reason why we'd waste our time theorizing or connecting patterns etc...

I read a really good post detailing how these two cases between tenoch and majors are different maybe I'll edit this post and add a link to that post if I found it again. Bc u are right they are different! But I can't assume people's intentions.

Edit:

Here's the link to the post detailing the difference between the two cases:

Believe victims first ❤️❤️❤️ ty for that statement. She had acid thrown on her face and there is other women and comments coming out. As a woman of latin origin, I feel he was just a very good manipulator and charismatic (Jonathan Meyers has a similar Charisma), which are sadly something very usual. Men nowadays use being humanists or feminists to desguise their misogyny/power trips, self serving!! I'm trying my best nowadays to mostly support and follow fellow women of color, eg mabel cadena (lesbian afaik).

Oh boy this turned out to be a pretty long reply but I just had to clarify where and how I stand w this situation. Just note that the 'you' in this is mostly used in a general way not specifically addressing you anon :) so here's my reply:

You absolutely don't need to thank me for that! It is my personal belief that as women it is our duty to stand with other women. I believe in believing victims first bc it's not about BELIEVING them blindily without proof in the sense of trusting they're being truthful but what that sentence means (to me at least) is STANDING with women, forming a defensive line protecting these victims from hate and showing solidarity, it is about sending a message to the patriarchal/sexist/misogynist world that we live in and the people (mostly men) that actively try to uphold it that way, that there is an equal force that is RESISTING IT and pushing back the silencing they're trynna impose on victims bc we see that they're trying to silence women and trying to pretend that SA doesn't happen and portray EVERY SA victim as a liar for money/attention. it's about SHOWING UP with ur morals and showing you are aware of these existent, continuous and repeated issues and you are against them. It is showing up bc it is an opportunity to fight.

I've seen the response of people to this situation throughout social media and it's mostly men immediately jumping to say it's another Amber Heard situation as if it's not a MEN situation, as if it's not that men are notoriously known for being shitty times and times again as if this issue doesn't happen and ALOT. So naturally, I'll side w women first (even if they turn out actual liars later on, bc yk what? men side with other men UNAPOLOGETICALLY, REGARDLESS IF THE MAN TURNS OUT SHITTY, THEY FIND WAYS TO VICTIM BLAME) but also bc I can SADLY EAAAASILY believe it happened, since it HAPPENS ALOT!! and if she's lying I DO NOT CARE, that's on her!!! That makes HER a shitty person, it doesn't change my morals or the way i approach these issues bc if one woman lies there are thousands others sadly not lying. And they're all accused of lying, not believed, attacked and bullied into retaliation, into shutting up, into fear, into reverting back to not daring say there is a problem in the world we live in, just so the system continues working in favor of men abusing and controlling women without any change or resistance! That's what I mean by standing w her, not bc i personally know her or that im 100% certain or convinced she's telling the truth but bc she's a fellow woman, bc it's a very REAL SERIOUS women issue that any of us can find ourselves in one day, it can happen to me, to u, to my sis, friends... Etc. Again, if she's lying that's on her and we can rest assured she'll be punished for it, if not judicially, then publically, i mean victims get punished for simply speaking, and are threatened with death, so let alone if it turns out they lied, have we not seen what happened to amber heard? All that public ridicule ??

And this supposed worry for him that she's lying and might ruin his career sounds so fake and soo 'awww men are the real victims in this world' to me bc hello!?!? R we living in the same reality or are u actively trying to pretend we're not living in a world that is biased towards men and protects abusive men. Have we not seen ezra miller strolling freely in the premiere of the flash like he's done nothing??

Men don't need you to defend them bc they're disproportionately at more advantage than the woman. + Counting the fact that SA is hard to proof + the fact that the court could be biased towards men in these situations. All of these factors stand against the women. U don't need to worry abt men. They seldom suffer consequences for their actions especially if they're famous and rich and have teams.. And if he turns out innocent and his career is damaged u better believe I'll be here rooting for him again and supporting him it's that simple.

Idk, this is how I see things, to me this situation is a typical man vs woman situation. I don't see it as a 'tenoch my beloved whom I wanna stay in denial about him VS someone who might be taking advantage of him'

And i wanna clarify that me standing w her is not an act of betrayal towards my previous love for tenoch (like some are actively trying to guilt his fans into) + if he is truly innocent and truly a feminist he'd actually understand, he'd know the importance of believing victims. As long as I'm not ACTIVELY hating on him or bullying him or being racist like some ppl are (which is fucked up). For now, I'm just absolutely NEUTRAL ABOUT HIM. My love and simping for him is just on pause until it is confirmed that he's absolutely innocent.

So, tbh about the second part of ur message about him being manipulative and all, I don't wanna engage in that, or in deciphering his statement or picking out red flags etc.. Bc people can see whatever they wanna see when they wanna see a fault, flaw or red flag.. Etc. Bc one day everything will be clear and we'll find out. As I said, I'm very neutral abt him for now.

To conclude, i stand w women the same way men (most) openly and actively and shamelessly stand with horrible men even after they were proven to be shitty, ex: andrew tate's fans. There is such a double standard that exists for women that many aren't aware they're falling for; Men can be soooooo easily flexible with their morals and support abusers whereas women have to absolutely make the most perfect rational logical CORRECT DECISIONS at all and any time. I choose to believe her simply bc she's my gender (at least for now) and if I'm wrong im wrong and we as women are allowed to be wrong. Men stand w men all the time even after they learn they're shitty. So, sorry I'm not sorry that I show up to my own gender the same way men (again most) show up unapologetically to their own gender.

And it's not an act of hatred towards Tenoch it's an act of defiance to the patriarchy/sexism/misogyny... It just happened to be a situation that involves tenoch in the mix.. But just bc i loved him alot, won't make me go easy on him (equally doesn't mean imma start bullying him). Neutral.

Anyways, wish you and everyone else safety and support throughout ur lives. Trust me as a North African (Algerian), the situation and men of my country aren't any better so I understand..

starting to think i have A Thing for big strong angry (sad) men who’ve lost a daughter

Aftertaste (I have about 3040506 more fanarts to post bear with me)

Innocent until proven guilty? Or guilty until proven innocent?

Guilty until proven innocent.

It may make me sound stupid, but I would rather believe a potential liar than believe a potential abuser. The truth will come out soon, and I will base my final opinion based off of factual evidence (whenever said evidence comes out)

It’s important that we take accusations like this seriously. Different opinions are okay at this time, as there is little to no evidence out, all we have right now is pretty much just word of mouth.

If my opinion makes you upset, then you can simply block me, I am not in the mood to argue. We should not be fighting, what’s important is that justice is served, whatever justice is in this case. It’s also important to look into both sides of the story and base your opinion off of that. However, I do not believe that my opinion is the only correct one, as I said different opinions are okay at such an uncertain time, and I respect other’s opinions, we will know what is true when the truth comes out.

I hope everyone is doing well.

For some of y’all to be SA survivors y’all sure do have some DOGSHIT takes like….

I’m seeing some of y’all perpetuate the very misogyny that keeps victims silent in the first place & it’s fucking disgusting.

As a *former* fan of that man, wake the fuck up. Ofc he’s not going to look like an abuser to you BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HIM. & for you to sit and call that woman (who has far less social power and absolutely NOTHING to gain) suspicious, attack her credibility & criticize the way she chose to speak up is so fucking nasty.

everyone qualifying their dogshit takes on some celebrity man they’re in a parasocial relationship with (who was accused of heinous shit as men with power and access often are) by stating they’re victims of SA (and therefore somehow exempt from perpetuating rape culture)…..okay well we’re not talking abt u—we’re talking abt the victim, is it okay if the convo isn’t abt u and ur bullshit consumerist habits for 3 seconds????? like ur not on the payroll, he doesn’t need ur help and he’s not gonna fuck u—most importantly u look dumb as hell.