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Gee I'd love to go to the moon today, but it seems a little risky
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Star Trek side of Tumblr:
How do they get the com badges to stick to their shirts in The Next Generation???
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“Resistance”
Digital drawing done in Procreate. White carbon stick on black background.
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i really appreciate that captain janeway is both mothering and ruthless in turns, that one moment she can be gentle with a baby and the next practically committing murder. she’s just so amazing and i’ve been totally spoiled in terms of female characters and i love captain janeway so much. that is all good day.
#that scene is everything#the way her eyes melt gazing into that little Borg baby's face#then they turn cold as ice#like damn she really is the most#a phenomenal little morsel of acting
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The other day, I was scrolling through Voyager and saw the familiar joke about Janeway, Picard, and the Borg Queen. It amused me, as always, because their interactions are interesting. But at the same time ... it has left this thing sitting with me in regards to the story of the Borg within Star Trek and how it was presented to us.
The Borg are first introduced to us in a Q episode, when Picard and his ship are tossed far into space (the Delta Quadrant actually) and exposed to dangers humanity is not ready for. That danger, at the time, specifically is a Borg cube. An entire section of the ship is just cut off and pulled away within the episode. Picard, ends up, by the end, asking Q to help them and get them back. The next time the Borg appear is "Best of Both Worlds".
Picard, at that point, is the face of humanity that the Borg know. Now, the Borg timeline in Trek is honestly a fun thing to look at. You do have the Enterprise episode and First Contact movie, this whole time loop that creates a sort of chicken and egg situation. But also, keep in mind ... the Raven - Seven's parents ship - has already been assimilated by "Best of Both Worlds". The Borg, at this point, have decided humanity needs a liason, someone to ease them into assimilation. And they pick Picard. We get Locutus. Then, after this, you get all that happens within the TNG episodes.
By the time Voyager happens, if you have watched TNG you have seen these episodes (Enterprise hasn't happened yet). First Contact is in 2373, Scorpion is in 2373/2374 ... these two events are within mere weeks/months/etc from each other. Yet, Janeway knows nothing about what Picard and Earth just went through. But, she was in Starfleet during Wolf 359, that battle was 2367. The USS Bonestell was her command - this ship was destroyed in this battle - memory beta says she was in command up till 2366. We dont know who was in command during the battle, for all we know it was Janeway and she is one of the few survivors of that destruction. Could be she just handed command over and the ship went off to battle.
"Scorpion" and "Best of Both Worlds" along with "Q, Who" are such vastly different means of bringing a character before the Borg. Picard is unaware and yet becomes a foil to them, becomes a focal point of the Queens plans. While Janeway, aware of the Borg - having learned previously through simply being part of Starfleet during those events, no matter how close she got to it -, is not clueless to this danger before her. She researches, reviews, looks over it all ... and then she offers up her own foil and focal point. The Borg Queen wanted a representative that could ease humanity into her clutches, and that failed her. Years later, Janeway looked the collective in the eye and said "give us a representative to ease this deal into success" and then she ensured it worked.
Janeway and Picard had two very different interactions with the Borg ... and honestly I will forever be obsessed with that (Janeway even willingly gets assimilated later on) and yet both of them are foils to the Borg Queen who will likely NEVER cease being annoyed that the two are still walking around Starfleet as reminders that resistance is possible.
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I'm honestly relieved that my hyper-fixation has over 900 episodes of TV and 13 movies.
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I know I'm primarily a Voyager fan these days, but when people ask me about my favorite TNG episode, and they're always confused when I hit them with:
#maybe the coolest thing I own lol#in my defense this was actually pretty cheap#I'm fully aware the rails are just gone at this point#people's eyes glaze over after they ask me why though
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Star Trek Voyager 5x01 - Night
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Btw - if you want to see if but haven’t gotten around to it, you should go watch it now! It’s continuation is in a precarious state and could use the support.
#prodigy is SO DAMN GOOD#my prodigy deep cut cosplay got a lot of ??? at the con#and my first question was always have you seen Prodigy?#so many people said no and I was like you're missing out!
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I knew watching lower decks pretty immediately that it was a love letter to star trek as a whole, but mostly TNG because I had watched TNG before lower decks. What I didn't know because I hadn't seen voyager yet when I watched prodigy, is that prodigy does the same for voyager.
I just finished season 4 of voyager where they run into the Dauntless, and I was like wait wait wait why does that look so familiar and it hit me like a train, it's Janeways ship from prodigy which I remembered from the episode where they're chasing down the protostar. I think if I rewatched prodigy, I'd appreciate more the homages to voyager and care more about the Chakotay storyline. Also I put on that episode, which has a body swap, and it's so fucking funny. Kate Mulgrew really went, this is my chance to be silly and by God I'm going to run with it.
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all girl bridge!
(harry counts as a girl, he's got the right vibes)
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I listened to the All Access Trek Podcast. Laurie Ulster said something that piqued my curiosity. Laurie mentioned that the writers of season 5 of Discovery want to be more connected to the larger Trek universe.
Then, Laurie and Anthony Pascal noted how different this attitude was from the early seasons of Discovery. Both Laurie and Anthony were involved in and around Trek productions, and Laurie herself was a host of After Trek (back when it existed).
Laurie mentioned that in season 1 of Discovery, studio executives would freak out if other Trek properties (specifically 90s Trek) were mentioned or alluded to. The TOS era is allowed, but it seems anything related to 90s-era Trek was not allowed.
And, it’s all because Star Trek Nemesis flopped big time.
(According to Jonathan Frakes he was told that Nemesis was the one that actually lost money.)
The effects of Star Trek Nemesis’s flop were so wide-ranging it almost killed the franchise. A few years later, they canceled Enterprise and any upcoming Trek live-action projects.
Nemesis is to blame for why neither Deep Space Nine nor Voyager had a live-action movie.
According to BTS reports and what the TNG actors have mentioned, Nemesis was a troubled production from the start. It got worse when the director, Stuart Baird, didn’t even care to know the actors’ names (famously mispronouncing LeVar Burton’s name). Additionally, he never bothered to watch a single episode of TNG. Marina Sirtis and LeVar Burton have been outspoken about how much they dislike Nemesis and the director (more from Marina on this).
(Both Marina and Gates McFadden weren’t fond of the other TNG era movies either, especially Gates because she was little more than a cameo in the movies.)
After Nemesis flopped it took years for Star Trek to return, and after that, there seemed to be a mandate from the studio to never mention 90s Trek.
This is why Star Trek: Picard was such a big deal, especially since it directly references events from Nemesis.
(And, an even bigger deal for Picard Season 3 reunion getting produced.)
The Nemesis effect continues to have an impact on the movie side of the franchise. The majority of announced projects take place in the pre-TOS era, TOS era, or the Kelvin timeline but there are no projects set during or after the 90s-era Trek.
This is why mentioning a ship class called Janeway was big but even bigger, showing Picard and directly referencing to the Dominion War and Deep Space Nine and Discovery is a big deal.
Anyway, I just wanted to mention all this because it baffled me why the executives were so into TOS-era trek and there seemed to be no interest for 90s-era Trek. And, learning about all this finally answered all my questions.
TLDR, I like TOS era but I’m not into the TOS-era and I enjoy the Kelvin timeline as much as anyone else but it is not the era of Trek I’m interested in. So the movies set all TOS or Pre-TOS era— its just not something I’m going to jump around about.
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