sometimes someone arguing against egg cracking/jokes lets slip that they straight up think being a trans woman is the worst identity someone can have. sometimes the identity theyd prefer is "cis man (just be gnc!)" and sometimes its "what kind of stargender they could be" but it always comes back to the fact that trans women talking to boys about gender might lead to more trans women, and that's a catastrophe they must condemn as hyperbollically as possible.