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Dick Grayson and Alfred Pennyworth's Relationship Meta
This is a compilation of moments between Dick and Alfred that showcases the type of relationship they have, including how they emotionally and physically support one another.
1. Alfred Acts Like Dick’s “Mom”
Nightwing #80
There is no denying that Dick and Alfred have a sort of parental/kid relationship. Don’t believe me? Stick around and see for yourself. I touch on it more specifically towards the end of this meta, but based on the panels you are about to see, I think it will be pretty obvious why Dick makes the, “More like my mom…” comment in the first place.
Batman and Robin #20
Even though Alfred is driving, he’s helping Dick with his bow tie and making sure he looks proper. Never mind the fact that Dick is a grown man who has worn suits on multiple occasions. You’d think that Dick would’ve learned how to tie his own bow tie by now, but nope.
Teen Titans: Year One
Alfred is always making sure this kid eats. Also how adorable is it that he wrote a little R crest on the lunch bag? There are no other bat kids living at the manor at this point, and yet, Alfred still makes sure to identify the bag so Dick knows it was made for him.
Batman: Gotham Knights #1
See, look. Alfred always making sure his boys are fed properly. And of course he’s going to give Dick the stink eye for not using a napkin.
Justice League #6
I don’t have the full panel here, but in this scene, Bruce tries to call Dick, and Dick doesn’t answer his phone. Alfred states that he was able to get a hold of Dick a few days prior. I imagine Bruce feels slightly hurt and annoyed that Dick will pick up his phone to talk to Alfred, but that Dick will choose to ignore him (unless Dick was genuinely busy and couldn’t answer at that moment).
Putting Bruce’s feelings aside for the moment, let’s reflect on the fact that Dick and Alfred have a good enough of a relationship to update each other on what’s going on in their lives. Alfred states that Dick seemed to be in excellent spirits, which implies that Dick may have been talking to him about his personal life rather than giving him a specific update about a case he was working on. I imagine they would feel pretty comfortable informing each other about the ongoing events of their lives. I mean, think about it. Alfred used to pick Dick up from school every day and would drive him to various activities (like in Robin: Year One for example). It makes sense that Alfred would be the one to constantly ask Dick about his day and vice versa.
“How was school?”
“What do you do all day, Alfie?”
“Did you have a good time with Miss Barbara?”
“Have you finished The Comedy of Errors yet?”
“Any special requests for dinner?”
“Did you go grocery shopping today? What did you get?”
“I was not aware you held such strong opinions about peppermint tea, Master Dick.”
“Aw man, cucumber sandwiches again?”
From early on, they engaged in casual conversation, which led to them knowing more personal details about one another. It became a familiar and expected occurrence between them.
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In my opinion, the butt jokes are incredibly incredibly tired.
So here are several fun facts about Dick that you can use for comedic effects/running jokes instead:
His hatred of Capes. Listen we are talking about Dick wore a yellow cape for 9 to 10 years in universe Grayson. The moment he changed his costume, he straight refused to ever wear a cape again, the only time he had to wear one, it was as Batman and it was very very frustrating for him.
You know that when he watched the Incredibles with Lian and Roy or Damian and Edna Mode came on screen with her hatred of capes, this was his reaction:
Someone else finally understand him. She instantly became his favorite character.
His tendency to put unknown substances/evidence in his mouth and being able to identify it by taste and his knowledge of what Heroin taste like (yep still not over it).
It's both impressive (the fact that he can actually identify something by taste alone is impressive) and gross and even his closest friends don't understand why he is the way that he is, Do we think it's the Bat training or do we think it's just Dick (tm)... I feel like it has to be just Dick, right ? considering everything in Gotham is a toxin of some kind ? How many heart attack do we think he gave both Bruce and the Titans with that ?
Dick Grayson namer of superhero things: Listen, I just learned that Dick named the Arrowcave and now I just kinda love the idea of a running joke that every time a classic superhero in contact with Robin has a goofy name for something superhero related, it probably comes from the 9 year old superhero who thought it sounded cool.
The Titans are never letting that go and Dick doesn't want to talk about it (but he secretly still really like the names, they were cool when he was 9 and pretty practical when you think about it, thank you very much).
Everyone has a crush on him (tm): Honestly it is pretty funny that everyone and theirs entire family have a crush on Nightwing (and also pretty consistent canon since Raven in ntt). The reaction of the batfam is annoyed because that's gross, it's Dick, theirs brother/son, and the Titans are amused (Donna, Vic, Garth and maybe Wally) or maybe sorta part of the people who have had a crush on him (Kory obviously , Roy, Raven).
You do need to be careful with that, but I think if you do the opposite of what DC is usually doing, you'll be fine.
Also you can also includes the disastrous first date with supergirl in that. She also had a crush on him and they date was so horrible that he considered changing superhero identity because it was so embarrassing (truly one of the greatest plot-point on Superman/batman world finest honestly and this series is genuinely my favorite modern/current series)..
His petty side when he doesn't like someone: Listen, Dick has a petty side, ask Helena circa Outsiders (2003), Talia (always), Jason circa the late 2000s (Morrison era) and Azrael (also always). When he doesn't like people but has to work with them, he is going to be a little shit because they have to know he doesn't like them. it's important. and the comedic potential of Nightwing, one of the most competent, known and admired hero of the community being so petty is excellent. 10 out of 10, I need him to work with someone he hates again just for the fun of it.
The last one is just an headcanon and do not have basis in canon as far as I know:
Sometimes, as an adult, Nightwing says Holy shit in front o fa classic superhero and that superhero does a double take because they are so used to him saying Holy goly batman (and that include Batman).
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One thing I appreciate in The Batman (2004) show is the way Dick is always helping people up.
Like, my boy is always helping everyone out. It's such a Dick Grayson thing to do. I love that they put that little detail in there.
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Oh no he didn’t grow out of his gremlin Robin phase, he’s just like this
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they barge into justice league meetings saying they have something very important to show them. and do stuff like this
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from what ive seen dick grayson having bpd is a pretty popular idea on twitter but i dont think ive ever seen anyone on tumblr mention it...was wondering if you might have any thoughts as the resident dick expert. sorry thank you
so sweet! imo the trifecta for dick graysons diagnosis is ocd + bpd + psychosis, though ur mileage may vary. i know some people read him as audhd but that’s not a personal preference for me. ive talked about it before a while ago but i think all of bruce’s kids show very clear compulsive behaviours and intrusive thoughts, and i think dick grayson in particular — as both a professional acrobat and considering the circumstances of his parents deaths — would have rigorous compulsive habits wrt safety and personal equipment. there’s also the idea that treating ocd in part comes from exposure therapy, and it’s kinda hard to argue against the logic of someone obsessively checking his grapple as a unpowered superhero lmao. like bruce inflicted these neurosis on people for a reason, which makes it very hard to unpick
wrt bpd i also think that fits well with how he’s been written traditionally — the compulsive thoughts, how he isolates himself, can struggle with sudden shifts in mood, has self-destructive habits, etc. i do also think he has a history of canonical psychosis in some capacity, which could be exacerbated by his history in the spotlight, or his intense observation by bruce. i imagine he was probably diagnosed into adulthood, where maybe someone like bridget clancy or the metropolis therapist picked up on some of his behaviours.
overall i think the idea that someone with bpd or ocd — or whatever other lens he can be analysed through — is beloved and trusted and capable is very important! the nature of bpd in specific is so isolating so like…. yeah i think it’s neat that someone with those symptoms can be reflected in a positive way. i try to incorporate my personal diagnosis in little ways regardless — there’s a part in persephone where roy’s emergency bag has a bottle of clozapine — and it’ll be shown more explicitly in some of the other stuff i eventually work on
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got possessed. drew this. bon appetit
dont tag as ship!
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for some reason middle aged comic fans coming on the internet to defend their decision as to why they thought a twelve year old should have died or lived is so funny 😭😭😭
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duke thomas 😄
& him hanging out with the waynes :)
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I’ve been thinking about this for three years.
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