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amaryllisblackthorn · 2 years

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so like, contrary to what seems to be the common/popular belief, I don’t think Meister and Mr. Chidouin are actually the literal same person?

i think one is a doll of the other, with Mr. Chidouin *probably* being the doll,

for one i just don’t believe everything we see about and hear from him in the Kai flashback & emails were lies? they portray him as someone who is aware of the Death Game and trying to keep Sara *out* of it, even putting his own life on the line –

...If it comes to it, I’m trusting you with Sara.

That girl’s destiny has so much potential for change that I’ve put my own life on the line…

Hello hellooooo! (^^)/ Feelin kinda in danger lately.... Well ok, its Sara they're after. She's been targeted. I'm attached to this house, but I guess I gotta discard it and run. ...Will you come with, Kai?

i mean, yeah, he doesn’t specifically name the Death Game iirc. and it’s also possible that Mr. Chidouin’s just completely lying to Kai, but like. I guess I don’t see any real reason to doubt it other than his apparent connection to Meister

also like why would Mr. Chidouin be wearing a different suit&hat/outfit (the flashforward at the end of 2-2) than Meister? i guess anything’s possible but like, i don’t see why he’d be wearing a completely different outfit idk

generally what i think is going on is:

Meister is the man from the Memorandum, the survivor of the Death Game from the ‘Hades Incident’

all of the candidates in the current Death Game are his biological children, and the purpose of this Death Game is to determine a successor

this means all the candidates are related

this also includes Sou ‘Midori’ Hiyori

Shin and Kanna probably have the same biological mother, too;

Shin is prob also adopted, which makes more sense with him not knowing if his sibling was older or younger than the alternative tbh

Alice and Reko’s situation is admittedly ??, but it’s still possible

I wonder if AI Reko’s comments about her dad are relevant at all ? maybe not but hm

i also wonder if the ‘something’ Megumi was looking for, when Keiji seems to ask about her reason for joining the police, was her father, which led to Asu-Naro? maybe? i’m not like committed to this thought, but I do think she was aware of the relation with her and Keiji but idk

the cult-like aspects of Asu-Naru are interesting and curious, too; it goes beyond just like, a yakuza organization/organized crime syndicate, so i wonder what that’s all about

the reason why Kai was sent to the Chidouins was at least in part bc the organization began to suspect Mr Chidouin’s loyalty [maybe]

Mr Chidouin talked about and acknowledged Kai’s guard work even though Kai was hired to help around the house and with Mr Chidouin’s work, with Kai’s guarding of Sara being originally on the behalf of Asu-Naro

Mr Chidouin says the the apron he gave Kai belonged to his own mother, so there is the question of would a (self aware) doll consider her his/their own mother, which is possible but admittedly something to thing about. the alternative situation, with Mr Chidouin being the human from the Hades Incident and Meister being his doll carries the question of if (male) dolls can reproduce -- which I guess is possible but also pretty weird but I am acknowledging the possibility to cover my bases

there is the question as to why Meister’s doll counterpart would be raising Sara out of all the participants -- there’s no real way they could have known her parallels to the girl from the Memorandum when she was just a baby. I imagine Sara’s mother is her biological one since they share similar hair color based on what we’ve seen. I wonder if maybe she has any connection to the original Memorandum girl? I also wonder if she knows anything at all -- we know she considers Kai family but not if she knows everything.

I have a lot more thoughts that I’ll probably use another post for instead of going on here. but basically I just wanted to express that I do not think Mr Chidouin and Meister are the same person -- or rather that I do think Mr Chidouin and Meister are separate people, with one being the doll of the other. also that all the candidates are related through Meister and the Death Game’s purpose is one of succession -- which is super messed up ?? but i’ll guess we’ll see how everything plays out

i could be wrong of course but i just wanted to put my thoughts out there

also obligatory 🟦🟨 Слава Україні / Slava Ukraini ! 💙💛

#yttd #Your Turn To Die #ab analyzes #mr. chidouin #mr chidouin #yttd meister #yttd spoilers #your turn to die spoilers #;spoilers for every current chapter of yttd (up to 3-1)#;i think some of this got deleted/erased but i cant remember everything so some of my original thoughts may be missing but oh well #;obligatory support ukraine !//.

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where-all-the-time-went · 3 years

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okay okay but what if asu naro is meant to be like,,, the internet

I don’t think Nankidai intended this, and you’re really gonna have to hear me out otherwise this will sound absolutely absurd, but some of the plot points in YTTD remind me of common conversation points about data collection and privacy on the internet. SPOILERS

This part is a bit of a stretch but Asu-Naro stalks the players in order to collect enough information to create AIs. These AIs are exactly like data doubles on the internet, in that both can be put through simulations in order to determine how an individual will act. Generally, this creates a picture of a company that surveils people without their permission in order to meet their own goals, most of which are unknown to the surveiled.

This part was just a weird parallel to me: you know when you get onto a website and it says “this website uses cookies?”

Generally, when I see messages like those, two things run through my mind: 1. I don’t really know 100% for certain where my data is going when they take it, I wish I didn’t have to accept the cookies but 2. I really need to use this website.

Basically, you’re giving uninformed consent by signing a contract because you don’t have much of a choice--that was very death game to me, for reasons you may have picked up on by now. As far as we know right now (and istg if you correct me on this don’t datamine spoil), when Sara decides whether to sign midori’s contract, she doesn’t know what it’s about, but she doesn’t have a choice if she wants to save Keiji.

That decision in conjunction with the technological and privacy-breaching nature of Asu-Naro makes me wonder if there is a broader theme about data collection, and about how we really do not know how our data is being used against us. Now, I doubt any of us would be pitted into a death game any time soon, but no one expected the Cambridge Analytica incident--but here we are.

so like this theory is a lot less comprehensive than my theories in the past, but i was just watching a philosophy tube video about the subject (this one) and halfway through i was trying to figure out why exactly it was giving me such yttd vibes and this was the result of that. also when i say “the internet” i mean companies that do internet things: google, facebook, literally anything.

in conclusion: big company steal data aaaaaaaa do you know what a majority vote is

#yttd #your turn to die #yttd theory #your turn to die theory #yttd spoilers #your turn to die spoilers #kimi ga shine #wrote this at 1 am and will probably end up completely rewriting it tomorrow but whatever

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