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Red vs. Blue America: How the Nation’s Real Estate Divide Could Determine the Midterm Elections
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Just when it seems the country couldn’t get any more divided, along comes the most raucous, drag-down, incendiary midterm election cycle in at least a generation, maybe ever. Two political parties? At times it feels like two nations. We wanted to know: Where do these deep divisions come from? And how much of a role does something as fundamental as housing play in the great red versus blue debate?
A very big one, as it turns out.
Let others debate immigration policies, tax reform bills, and presidential temperaments. No, realtor.com® took a deep dive into the nation’s real estate—analyzing all aspects of housing and demographic data in the counties that President Donald Trump and Democratic contender Hillary Clinton each won in 2016—to shed a brighter light on just how we got here as a nation. And where we’re going next.
We found stark differences between America’s red and blue real estate—everything from the cost of homes, the number of places being built, even the credit scores it takes to buy a home.
“Not only are people living in different political realities, but they’re contending with very different housing realities and paying different amounts for it,” says Mark Muro, senior fellow in the metropolitan policy program at the Brookings Institution, a think tank based in Washington, DC.
Where voters live may be the most crucial factor in what side of the political equation they’re on. Trump won 2,625 counties in the 2016 election compared with Clinton’s 487.*  But Clinton won the expensive, diverse, and crowded big cities while Trump swept the inexpensive, more sparsely populated rural America. That’s why she won the popular vote by nearly 2.9 million ballots.
The suburbs remain the country’s battleground.
“You’re seeing the Democrats become more and more of an urban party and the Republicans become more of a rural or exurban party,” says Kyle Kondik, managing editor of Sabato’s Crystal Ball, a newsletter from the University of Virginia Center for Politics. “As you get farther out from the city, it gets more Republican.”
At the same time, more liberal-leaning Americans are moving to red, Southern states such as Texas and the Carolinas, lured by their warmer weather, affordable housing, lower taxes, and good jobs. It’s why most demographers predict a major shift in the political breakdown of the U.S. in coming years.
To come up with our findings**, the data team at realtor.com looked at internal listings for prices, appreciation, home sizes, and the percentage of new construction in each county. We calculated buyers’ median down payment and credit scores through Optimal Blue, a digital mortgage trading platform. We used Nielsen for income and general housing demographic data. And we turned to the U.S. Census Bureau for population information.
We looked only at counties because we wanted to take a more granular look at the nation’s housing differences, something state data couldn’t provide.
So let’s go to the realtor.com electoral map!
2016 map
Tony Frenzel
Price alert: Which counties have the most expensive homes? Where are prices higher?
Tony Frenzel
Despite Trump making a name for himself with luxury real estate, the counties he carried had the nation’s cheapest housing—by a long shot. And the homes in red counties have appreciated less than those in blue counties since the presidential election.
It’s because Trump found his base in more rural, less wealthy parts of the nation. Clinton, meanwhile, won the country’s largest and priciest cities, including San Francisco, New York, and Boston, where land is at a premium.
The median home list price was $262,612 in September in counties that voted Republican in 2016. That’s 12.3% lower than the national median of $295,000 and 53.1% lower than the $402,200 median price in counties that went Democratic.
Clinton won 31 counties that are more expensive than Trump’s most expensive county.
The median list price in Trump counties was 53.1% lower than in Clinton counties.
“It’s about high-end versus low-end America to some extent,” says Muro, of Brookings Institution. “There really is an affordability advantage in heartland places where wages go farther.”
The nation’s most expensive county was rarefied vacation destination Nantucket, MA, a 14-mile-long island off the coast of Cape Cod, where the median list price was $2,495,050. Former Democratic presidential contender John Kerry recently sold the second home he shared with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, for $17.5 million.
The cheapest county is deeply red Blackford, IN, over an hour and a half northeast of Indianapolis. The median list price in the agricultural area is just $55,050.
While the price disparity is jarring, the appreciation gap is closing. In the two-year run-up to the 2016 presidential election, homes in counties that voted for Clinton appreciated by 22.9% compared with 13.2% in Trump counties. However, in the two years since—from September 2016 to September 2018—home prices have accelerated at a breakneck pace all over the country as the national economy continues to improve, and the president’s tax reform legislation has gone into effect. Blue county appreciation was 15.2%, while red counties gained 13.9%.
The legislation “takes away some of the incentives for homeownership in higher-priced markets,” says Daren Blomquist, a senior vice president at real estate data firm ATTOM Data Solutions. It lowers the amount of mortgage interest that homeowners can deduct off their taxes and caps property tax deductions, mostly affecting pricier blue parts of the U.S. “The advantage [is expected to] be swinging back toward some of these lower-priced counties won by Trump.”
Rent vs. buy: Where do the most homeowners live? Where is homeownership higher?
Tony Frenzel
With prices so much lower in red counties, more folks can become homeowners without going broke. The homeownership rate is 71.3% in red counties and just 59.5% in blue counties. Now, that’s something to tweet about!
“Homeownership is more affordable in Trump counties, so even with a lower income you can have a higher homeownership rate and a larger home,” says Chief Economist Danielle Hale of realtor.com.
But it’s not just price tags determining those rates. Cities tend to be filled with younger residents, including all manner of millennials hoping to strike it big. They often can’t afford to buy in the nation’s top cities—let alone make rent without tripling or quadrupling up in tiny apartments. Instant ramen, anyone? 
Plus, there’s not the same stigma attached to renting in big cities, where homeownership isn’t always the norm. You can put down roots, have a great job, and not own a home. It’s a common way of life.
These are the kinds of differences that can affect how Americans see the world and measure their perceived successes and failures.
One big political difference between homeowners and renters is that about two-thirds of the former voted in the past presidential election, according to a recent study by Apartment List, a rental website. Only about half of renters did the same. And while homeowners are just slightly more likely to lean right, renters are significantly more likely to lean left.
“Homeowners may have different values and want different things than those who are renting,” says Muro.
Size matters: Which counties have the largest homes?
If you’re looking for way more space, move to Trump country. Homes in counties that he won clocked in at a median 2,014 square feet—about 82 more square feet than in Clinton counties.
That’s because residences tend to be much smaller in the top cities (interested in a nice 250-square-foot, micro-apartment, anyone?) than in the more sparsely populated country where land is cheaper and homes aren’t built right on top of one another.
“Red counties tend to have lower construction costs … allowing home buyers to purchase a larger home for a given budget,” says Robert Dietz, chief economist of the National Association of Home Builders. Plus, larger families often want more bedrooms and overall space. “Red counties tend to have more married couples with kids and fewer singles, thus leading to larger homes.”
Show us the money: Where do folks earn the most?
One of the biggest differences in the left versus right debate simply comes down to dollars and cents. Folks in blue counties have better job prospects and make more money, with a median household income of $67,407. That’s nearly 16.2% more than the $58,016 that households in red counties are earning. (Income disparity is less pronounced with individual voters, as opposed to counties.)
Blue counties have more high-tech centers offering well-paid gigs to those with the right skills, while red counties are more oriented toward lower-paying manufacturing, agricultural, and service jobs. And with factories continuing to close, move offshore, or replace workers with technology, many of those jobs are disappearing. Over the past few decades, it’s also become harder for small farmers to make ends meet.
Blue county households earned nearly 16.2% more than those in red counties.
“The blue counties have seen significant pay increases and are better positioned to deal with the future of a high-end, digital economy,” Muro says.
How voters and their local communities are doing economically can play a big part in which side of the political fence they’re on. Trump went after the blue-collar vote and since the election has been imposing tariffs on countries competing with core American industries. This is designed to give his base a financial boost.
In the past year, about 35.4% of Trump counties lost jobs compared with 19.2% of Clinton counties, according to an Associated Press analysis. The AP looked at monthly government jobs data from June 2017 through May 2018. Meanwhile, about 58.7% of the new jobs were created in blue counties. These sorts of differences in wealth and job prospects could lead voters to cast their ballots for very different candidates.
“That does reinforce the idea that we’re living in quite different realities,” Muro says.
Credit scores and down payments: Which counties have the highest?
When it comes to buying a home, it’s typically harder to do so in left-leaning urban areas of the country, where homes are more expensive and buyers need higher credit scores and down payments.
The median FICO score in Clinton counties was 731 compared with 709 in Trump counties. (We looked at Optimal Blue mortgage data from June, July, and August 2018 to come up with our findings.) Meanwhile, buyers plunked down a median 10.2% of the purchase price in blue parts of America and 5.4% in red swaths of the country.
The lower down payments are thanks to U.S. Department of Agriculture loans, some of which don’t even require putting any money down. Buyers can snag these loans with credit scores of 640 or even lower in some cases—provided they live in rural areas. This has helped those in Trump country become homeowners.
Buyers in red counties put down median down payments of 5.4% versus 10.2% of those in blue ones.
“Down payments and credit scores don’t have anything to do with Democrats and Republicans,” says Don Frommeyer, a mortgage lender at Marine Bank in Indianapolis. “If you’re in rural America, you don’t have to have [a very high] credit score and the down payment is going to be less.”
That’s certainly not the case in Manhattan, where buyers forked over a median 27.2% of the median $1,650,050 price of their New York City homes. That hurts.
Buyers in expensive cities may also opt for mortgages with higher credit and down payment requirements. Conventional loans are more popular in ultrapricey areas because they offer higher loan limits and lower-cost private mortgage insurance, which kicks in when buyers don’t put 20% down. Sellers in competitive markets are also more likely to prefer conventional loans because they have less stringent loan appraisal processes.
But conventional loans have higher minimum credit scores, typically 620 versus 500 for FHA loans. And they often require larger down payments.
Cities vs. rural America: Who lives in the most populated counties?
Clinton may have won a fraction of all counties, but the ones she took were vastly more populated. Blue counties had a median 104,202 residents as of July 1, 2017. That’s about 4.5 times higher than the median 22,828 people living in Trump counties.
This is noteworthy because residents who live in more populated areas are more likely to come into contact with a more diverse community, on everything from ethnicities to religious backgrounds. And that could affect their views on hot-button issues like immigration, abortion, and birthright citizenship.
“It could be that where and how you live really affects your views on people and how you vote,” says realtor.com’s Hale.
But it’s important to note that the population in Trump counties is growing—faster than in Clinton counties. It rose 0.8% in his counties, and 0.6% in blue counties, from 2016 to 2017. That’s likely because Trump counties tend to be more affordable—and usually warmer, too.
Just look at Texas. The Lone Star State saw the biggest increase in new residents, about 400,000, from 2016 to 2017.
“Millennials are flocking to Texas because they can buy a 2,000-, 3,000-square-foot home for under $300,000,” says demographer Ken Gronbach of KGC Direct.
So what does that mean for future elections?
“That’s the question: Will these areas become victims of their own success?” ATTOM’s Blomquist says. “They helped Trump win in 2016. But because they are attracting more jobs and more people, will they shift away from Trump politically and the Republicans in future elections?”
Construction alert: Where are builders putting up the most new homes?
Which counties see more building?
Tony Frenzel
It’s fitting that new residential construction would be much higher in the counties carried by a president who made his name as a builder.
About 21.7% of the realtor.com listings in his counties were for new homes, compared with just 15.7% in Clinton counties. In other words, 19 of the 20 counties with the most new construction were in Trump country. The Houston suburb of Waller County had the highest percentage of newly constructed homes listed on realtor.com. The median home price in the Republican county is $318,000.
Trump won 19 of the 20 counties with the most new construction.
The reasons are simple: There is simply more land available to build on in more rural areas; there are fewer building regulations, and it’s cheaper to put up new homes.  Plus, there’s demand in areas seeing more population growth as all of those new residents need places to live.
“People vote with their feet. They are going to markets with job growth and [where it’s] easier to build,” says Robert Dietz, chief economist of the National Association of Home Builders. These places “tend to be voting more conservative and have land-use rules that are less regulated and housing cost burdens that are lower.”
* Includes county equivalents in Louisiana, Maryland, and Virginia. These counts did not include Alaska or Washington, DC, which were included in the electoral tally.
** We calculated the county medians for all of these different metrics. Then we weighted each one based on the number of households or how many listings they had on realtor.com. This allowed us to create median scores for Trump and Clinton counties. The weighting was done to ensure that counties with the fewest residents didn’t disproportionately drag the numbers up or down.
The post Red vs. Blue America: How the Nation’s Real Estate Divide Could Determine the Midterm Elections appeared first on Real Estate News & Insights | realtor.com®.
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Red vs. Blue America: How the Nation’s Real Estate Divide Could Determine the Midterm Elections
iStock; realtor.com
Just when it seems the country couldn’t get any more divided, along comes the most raucous, drag-down, incendiary midterm election cycle in at least a generation, maybe ever. Two political parties? At times it feels like two nations. We wanted to know: Where do these deep divisions come from? And how much of a role does something as fundamental as housing play in the great red versus blue debate?
A very big one, as it turns out.
Let others debate immigration policies, tax reform bills, and presidential temperaments. No, realtor.com® took a deep dive into the nation’s real estate—analyzing all aspects of housing and demographic data in the counties that President Donald Trump and Democratic contender Hillary Clinton each won in 2016—to shed a brighter light on just how we got here as a nation. And where we’re going next.
We found stark differences between America’s red and blue real estate—everything from the cost of homes, the number of places being built, even the credit scores it takes to buy a home.
“Not only are people living in different political realities, but they’re contending with very different housing realities and paying different amounts for it,” says Mark Muro, senior fellow in the metropolitan policy program at the Brookings Institution, a think tank based in Washington, DC.
Where voters live may be the most crucial factor in what side of the political equation they’re on. Trump won 2,625 counties in the 2016 election compared with Clinton’s 487.*  But Clinton won the expensive, diverse, and crowded big cities while Trump swept the inexpensive, more sparsely populated rural America. That’s why she won the popular vote by nearly 2.9 million ballots.
The suburbs remain the country’s battleground.
“You’re seeing the Democrats become more and more of an urban party and the Republicans become more of a rural or exurban party,” says Kyle Kondik, managing editor of Sabato’s Crystal Ball, a newsletter from the University of Virginia Center for Politics. “As you get farther out from the city, it gets more Republican.”
At the same time, more liberal-leaning Americans are moving to red, Southern states such as Texas and the Carolinas, lured by their warmer weather, affordable housing, lower taxes, and good jobs. It’s why most demographers predict a major shift in the political breakdown of the U.S. in coming years.
To come up with our findings**, the data team at realtor.com looked at internal listings for prices, appreciation, home sizes, and the percentage of new construction in each county. We calculated buyers’ median down payment and credit scores through Optimal Blue, a digital mortgage trading platform. We used Nielsen for income and general housing demographic data. And we turned to the U.S. Census Bureau for population information.
We looked only at counties because we wanted to take a more granular look at the nation’s housing differences, something state data couldn’t provide.
So let’s go to the realtor.com electoral map!
2016 map
Tony Frenzel
Price alert: Which counties have the most expensive homes? Where are prices higher?
Tony Frenzel
Despite Trump making a name for himself with luxury real estate, the counties he carried had the nation’s cheapest housing—by a long shot. And the homes in red counties have appreciated less than those in blue counties since the presidential election.
It’s because Trump found his base in more rural, less wealthy parts of the nation. Clinton, meanwhile, won the country’s largest and priciest cities, including San Francisco, New York, and Boston, where land is at a premium.
The median home list price was $262,612 in September in counties that voted Republican in 2016. That’s 12.3% lower than the national median of $295,000 and 53.1% lower than the $402,200 median price in counties that went Democratic.
Clinton won 31 counties that are more expensive than Trump’s most expensive county.
The median list price in Trump counties was 53.1% lower than in Clinton counties.
“It’s about high-end versus low-end America to some extent,” says Muro, of Brookings Institution. “There really is an affordability advantage in heartland places where wages go farther.”
The nation’s most expensive county was rarefied vacation destination Nantucket, MA, a 14-mile-long island off the coast of Cape Cod, where the median list price was $2,495,050. Former Democratic presidential contender John Kerry recently sold the second home he shared with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, for $17.5 million.
The cheapest county is deeply red Blackford, IN, over an hour and a half northeast of Indianapolis. The median list price in the agricultural area is just $55,050.
While the price disparity is jarring, the appreciation gap is closing. In the two-year run-up to the 2016 presidential election, homes in counties that voted for Clinton appreciated by 22.9% compared with 13.2% in Trump counties. However, in the two years since—from September 2016 to September 2018—home prices have accelerated at a breakneck pace all over the country as the national economy continues to improve, and the president’s tax reform legislation has gone into effect. Blue county appreciation was 15.2%, while red counties gained 13.9%.
The legislation “takes away some of the incentives for homeownership in higher-priced markets,” says Daren Blomquist, a senior vice president at real estate data firm ATTOM Data Solutions. It lowers the amount of mortgage interest that homeowners can deduct off their taxes and caps property tax deductions, mostly affecting pricier blue parts of the U.S. “The advantage [is expected to] be swinging back toward some of these lower-priced counties won by Trump.”
Rent vs. buy: Where do the most homeowners live? Where is homeownership higher?
Tony Frenzel
With prices so much lower in red counties, more folks can become homeowners without going broke. The homeownership rate is 71.3% in red counties and just 59.5% in blue counties. Now, that’s something to tweet about!
“Homeownership is more affordable in Trump counties, so even with a lower income you can have a higher homeownership rate and a larger home,” says Chief Economist Danielle Hale of realtor.com.
But it’s not just price tags determining those rates. Cities tend to be filled with younger residents, including all manner of millennials hoping to strike it big. They often can’t afford to buy in the nation’s top cities—let alone make rent without tripling or quadrupling up in tiny apartments. Instant ramen, anyone? 
Plus, there’s not the same stigma attached to renting in big cities, where homeownership isn’t always the norm. You can put down roots, have a great job, and not own a home. It’s a common way of life.
These are the kinds of differences that can affect how Americans see the world and measure their perceived successes and failures.
One big political difference between homeowners and renters is that about two-thirds of the former voted in the past presidential election, according to a recent study by Apartment List, a rental website. Only about half of renters did the same. And while homeowners are just slightly more likely to lean right, renters are significantly more likely to lean left.
“Homeowners may have different values and want different things than those who are renting,” says Muro.
Size matters: Which counties have the largest homes?
If you’re looking for way more space, move to Trump country. Homes in counties that he won clocked in at a median 2,014 square feet—about 82 more square feet than in Clinton counties.
That’s because residences tend to be much smaller in the top cities (interested in a nice 250-square-foot, micro-apartment, anyone?) than in the more sparsely populated country where land is cheaper and homes aren’t built right on top of one another.
“Red counties tend to have lower construction costs … allowing home buyers to purchase a larger home for a given budget,” says Robert Dietz, chief economist of the National Association of Home Builders. Plus, larger families often want more bedrooms and overall space. “Red counties tend to have more married couples with kids and fewer singles, thus leading to larger homes.”
Show us the money: Where do folks earn the most?
One of the biggest differences in the left versus right debate simply comes down to dollars and cents. Folks in blue counties have better job prospects and make more money, with a median household income of $67,407. That’s nearly 16.2% more than the $58,016 that households in red counties are earning. (Income disparity is less pronounced with individual voters, as opposed to counties.)
Blue counties have more high-tech centers offering well-paid gigs to those with the right skills, while red counties are more oriented toward lower-paying manufacturing, agricultural, and service jobs. And with factories continuing to close, move offshore, or replace workers with technology, many of those jobs are disappearing. Over the past few decades, it’s also become harder for small farmers to make ends meet.
Blue county households earned nearly 16.2% more than those in red counties.
“The blue counties have seen significant pay increases and are better positioned to deal with the future of a high-end, digital economy,” Muro says.
How voters and their local communities are doing economically can play a big part in which side of the political fence they’re on. Trump went after the blue-collar vote and since the election has been imposing tariffs on countries competing with core American industries. This is designed to give his base a financial boost.
In the past year, about 35.4% of Trump counties lost jobs compared with 19.2% of Clinton counties, according to an Associated Press analysis. The AP looked at monthly government jobs data from June 2017 through May 2018. Meanwhile, about 58.7% of the new jobs were created in blue counties. These sorts of differences in wealth and job prospects could lead voters to cast their ballots for very different candidates.
“That does reinforce the idea that we’re living in quite different realities,” Muro says.
Credit scores and down payments: Which counties have the highest?
When it comes to buying a home, it’s typically harder to do so in left-leaning urban areas of the country, where homes are more expensive and buyers need higher credit scores and down payments.
The median FICO score in Clinton counties was 731 compared with 709 in Trump counties. (We looked at Optimal Blue mortgage data from June, July, and August 2018 to come up with our findings.) Meanwhile, buyers plunked down a median 10.2% of the purchase price in blue parts of America and 5.4% in red swaths of the country.
The lower down payments are thanks to U.S. Department of Agriculture loans, some of which don’t even require putting any money down. Buyers can snag these loans with credit scores of 640 or even lower in some cases—provided they live in rural areas. This has helped those in Trump country become homeowners.
Buyers in red counties put down median down payments of 5.4% versus 10.2% of those in blue ones.
“Down payments and credit scores don’t have anything to do with Democrats and Republicans,” says Don Frommeyer, a mortgage lender at Marine Bank in Indianapolis. “If you’re in rural America, you don’t have to have [a very high] credit score and the down payment is going to be less.”
That’s certainly not the case in Manhattan, where buyers forked over a median 27.2% of the median $1,650,050 price of their New York City homes. That hurts.
Buyers in expensive cities may also opt for mortgages with higher credit and down payment requirements. Conventional loans are more popular in ultrapricey areas because they offer higher loan limits and lower-cost private mortgage insurance, which kicks in when buyers don’t put 20% down. Sellers in competitive markets are also more likely to prefer conventional loans because they have less stringent loan appraisal processes.
But conventional loans have higher minimum credit scores, typically 620 versus 500 for FHA loans. And they often require larger down payments.
Cities vs. rural America: Who lives in the most populated counties?
Clinton may have won a fraction of all counties, but the ones she took were vastly more populated. Blue counties had a median 104,202 residents as of July 1, 2017. That’s about 4.5 times higher than the median 22,828 people living in Trump counties.
This is noteworthy because residents who live in more populated areas are more likely to come into contact with a more diverse community, on everything from ethnicities to religious backgrounds. And that could affect their views on hot-button issues like immigration, abortion, and birthright citizenship.
“It could be that where and how you live really affects your views on people and how you vote,” says realtor.com’s Hale.
But it’s important to note that the population in Trump counties is growing—faster than in Clinton counties. It rose 0.8% in his counties, and 0.6% in blue counties, from 2016 to 2017. That’s likely because Trump counties tend to be more affordable—and usually warmer, too.
Just look at Texas. The Lone Star State saw the biggest increase in new residents, about 400,000, from 2016 to 2017.
“Millennials are flocking to Texas because they can buy a 2,000-, 3,000-square-foot home for under $300,000,” says demographer Ken Gronbach of KGC Direct.
So what does that mean for future elections?
“That’s the question: Will these areas become victims of their own success?” ATTOM’s Blomquist says. “They helped Trump win in 2016. But because they are attracting more jobs and more people, will they shift away from Trump politically and the Republicans in future elections?”
Construction alert: Where are builders putting up the most new homes?
Which counties see more building?
Tony Frenzel
It’s fitting that new residential construction would be much higher in the counties carried by a president who made his name as a builder.
About 21.7% of the realtor.com listings in his counties were for new homes, compared with just 15.7% in Clinton counties. In other words, 19 of the 20 counties with the most new construction were in Trump country. The Houston suburb of Waller County had the highest percentage of newly constructed homes listed on realtor.com. The median home price in the Republican county is $318,000.
Trump won 19 of the 20 counties with the most new construction.
The reasons are simple: There is simply more land available to build on in more rural areas; there are fewer building regulations, and it’s cheaper to put up new homes.  Plus, there’s demand in areas seeing more population growth as all of those new residents need places to live.
“People vote with their feet. They are going to markets with job growth and [where it’s] easier to build,” says Robert Dietz, chief economist of the National Association of Home Builders. These places “tend to be voting more conservative and have land-use rules that are less regulated and housing cost burdens that are lower.”
* Includes county equivalents in Louisiana, Maryland, and Virginia. These counts did not include Alaska or Washington, DC, which were included in the electoral tally.
** We calculated the county medians for all of these different metrics. Then we weighted each one based on the number of households or how many listings they had on realtor.com. This allowed us to create median scores for Trump and Clinton counties. The weighting was done to ensure that counties with the fewest residents didn’t disproportionately drag the numbers up or down.
The post Red vs. Blue America: How the Nation’s Real Estate Divide Could Determine the Midterm Elections appeared first on Real Estate News & Insights | realtor.com®.
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Overland Park family stuck paying for Branson timeshare they can’t even use
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. — A Kansas family spent thousands of dollars on a vacation rental but say they have never been able to use it.
“You can have it, and then your children can have it,” Muhammad Naseer of Overland Park said he was told by a representative from Westgate Resorts who sold him one week a year in a Branson timeshare.
“You know I’m from Kansas, and my favorite place is Branson,” Naseer said. He was promised by Westgate that using the timeshare would be easy.
The Naseers spent $10,865 to purchase the unit in 2012. Every year since, they’ve paid a yearly maintenance fee, which is now more than $800.
But in the six years they’ve owned the timeshare, they’ve never been able to use it. Not a single time.
Muhammad Naseer
The first year, Naseer said he called a month in advance but was unable to book his week in Branson.
“You are giving us very short notice,” he said he was told by a Westgate booking agent.
The next year, he called six months in advance.
“You are calling too early,” Naseer said he was told.
The following year he called two months in advance -– no success.
“You should have called much earlier,” Naseer said he was told.
However, the Westgate booking agent said the Naseers could stay at the resort, but would have to pay full price.
And so it went, year after year. In total, the Naseers have spent about $15,000 for a timeshare they have never spent a single night in.
When the Naseers complained to Westgate, they said they were told they would have an easier time using their timeshare if they upgraded to a better plan. That new plan would cost them an additional $15,000.
A photo of the Branson timeshare the Naseer family was promised access to.
The Naseers refused and decided to sell their timeshare, but couldn’t find a buyer interested in paying even close to what they had paid.
“Westgate promised us it would go up in value and would be easy to sell,” Naseer said.
The Naseers aren’t the only ones complaining about Westgate Resorts, a Florida-based timeshare company with properties across the United States. FOX4 Problem Solvers found dozens of complaints online.
Plus, a Tennessee couple won a $500,000 judgment against Westgate after accusing the company of using high pressure and misleading sales tactics. Westgate was also slammed with a $900,000 fine by the Federal Trade Commission for illegal robocalls.
Problem Solvers paid a visit to Westgate’s Branson Woods Resort. We tried to find the rental unit the Naseers were deeded one week a year. According to their mortgage, it’s in building 11, apartment 443 A.
Despite exploring the entire property, we never found that exact address. We even asked an employee for help. He verified that the address doesn’t exist.
We learned that, despite what the Naseers’ mortgage said, Westgate said other paperwork states that Naseers’ unit is a “floating unit,” meaning it can anywhere on the property.
The Problem Solvers were then sent to the sales office for more answers. We asked employees there why the Naseers had never been able to book a room but were told they couldn’t release information about their customers. They instead referred us to the 1-800 number for Westgate Resort’s corporate headquarters.
A spokesman for Westgate assured FOX4 it was the Naseers’ own fault they hadn’t been able to book a room in six years. He said the Naseers had misunderstood the booking process and that Westgate would be happy to help them use their timeshare — all they needed to do was contact him.
That explanation didn’t ring true to the Naseers or Branson attorney Russ Schenewerk who has spent much of career suing timeshare companies, including Westgate.
Branson attorney Russ Schenewerk
“I think it’s all a game to sell the same amount of inventory to so many people that it can’t be used by everybody,” Schenewerk said.
He said not being able to use a timeshare is one of the most common complaints he receives from clients.
Schenewerk said there are multiple timeshare companies in Branson that he considers “bad players” in the industry. He said he has received more than 200 complaints about another timeshare company, which he wouldn’t identify to FOX4.
Schenewerk said he has referred many of the complaints to Missouri’s Attorney General, but has yet to hear of any action taken against timeshare companies by the state.
“It’s buyer beware,” Schenewerk said.
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Should you micromanage your teen’s summer job money?
Larrisa Rawlings interviews for a summer job with the College Board at Ballou High School in Washington. (Bonnie Jo Mount/The Washington Post)
This is going to be a great summer. All three of my children will have well-paying summer jobs. No more camps. No more camp fees. Hallelujah!
But now comes a question of parental authority. Do I have the right to tell my children how to spend their income?
My husband and I have decided that even though our children are earning their own money they still need guidance. So yes, we are all up in their business.
Every dollar doesn’t have to be accounted for, but they have to save a great percentage of what they earn. For us, working is way to teach them how to be good money managers not shoppers.
So you won’t find my kids hanging out at the mall spending their summer earnings as if they didn’t have a financial care in the world.
The American Institute of Certified Public Accountants on its site 360financialliteracy.org offers some practical tips for helping your teen become money smart.
“Once your teenager gets a steady paycheck, demonstrate how to save and spend,” the organization says. “In other words, help them develop a budget. Establish three categories: essential purchases, savings, and discretionary items. Discuss and agree upon the essential items you expect your teenager’s paycheck to cover. This may include car insurance, gas, telephone bills or school lunches. After establishing essential expenditures, set a savings goal with your teen, but be sure money is left over for fun. Your teen will be quickly disillusioned with working if there’s no money to play with.”
NerdWallet’s Lauren McMullen offers advice for parents on helping teens learn good money management habits with their summer income: Help your teen use summer job earnings wisely
“Teens with summer jobs might be earning their own money for the first time — but it won’t be the last,” McMullen writes. “The money habits they learn now could last for decades.
Here are some additional articles I think will be helpful in your assisting your teen in managing their summer money.
— Teen jobs and tax issues “A youngster who is a dependent of another taxpayer generally doesn’t have to file an income-tax return unless the youth makes more than the standard deduction amount for a single filer,” writes Kay Bell for Bankrate.com. The standard deduction for 2017 is $6,350 for single taxpayers.
— Why kids should stash summer job cash in a Roth IRA
— U.S. teens lack basic financial literacy. Let’s change that.
— What to Do When Your Teenager Is Wasting Money
Color of Money question of the week How far should parents go in telling their teenagers how to spend their summer earnings? Send your comments to [email protected]. Please include your name, city and state. In the subject line put “Summer Job.”
Kendrick Lamar gave his sister a car. Some on the Internet thought it wasn’t fancy enough. People are a trip. Rapper Kendrick Lamar bought his sister, who was graduating from high school, a 2017 silver Toyota Camry for graduation. She was grateful.
Thank you big brother for my graduation gift! ❤️ @kendricklamar
A post shared by Kayla Duckworth (@silnovia) on Jun 2, 2017 at 11:05am PDT
Others were haters.
As Lisa Respers France wrote on CNN, people took to Twitter to call him cheap.
“LMFAOOOOO Kendrick can’t buy his sister a better car than a Toyota Camry ” pic.twitter.com/K8GdHKvr0v
— . (@CuhWristChin) June 3, 2017
“Some commenters on social media jumped on him for buying her such a dowdy car,” wrote a former Post colleague who couldn’t believe the audacity of some people. “As a Camry owner, I can tell you — it’s a great car! The only new car I’ve ever bought in my life, 12 years ago, and it’s still got plenty of life in it. I thought it was such a smart gift for a brother of means to give to his sister. I know very little about Kendrick Lamar but it says a lot about his financial smarts and his priorities.”
Toyota had Lamar’s back, says TMZ. “A rep told us Toyota sees the choice as more ‘smart and thoughtful’ than cheap, since Camry has a good track record for longevity and reliability. Plus, they’re made in the U.S. — so props for buying American! Sorta.”
To the haters I would ask: When was the last time you got a free car?
Lamar didn’t have to give his sister anything.
The answer to entitlement is always gratitude.
Live chat today I’m live and taking your personal finance questions at noon (Eastern). The main theme for today is about retirement planning.
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Would you buy a $21.99 Covfefe T-shirt? So much more has happened with President Trump’s twitter account that this seems eons ago. Nonetheless last week, Trump tweeted, “Despite the constant negative press covfefe.”
By morning Trump had deleted the tweet and then posted this: “Who can figure out the true meaning of “covfefe” ??? Enjoy!”
But the jokes keep coming about what Trump meant. Was it a typo or his teasing the American public? Who knows?
Some entrepreneurs saw an opportunity. On teespring.com you can buy a black T-shirt with #covfefe for $21.99. Last week I asked: Would you spend money to be part of the President’s Trump’s twitter typo history? There was an overwhelming response. So many I can’t include them all, but here’s a sampling of what you had to say:
Cindy Bunker of De Pere, Wisc., wrote, “Too funny! I’m not buying. But, this one is tempting: ‘Don’t talk to me until I’ve had my covfefe.’ At least we’re starting to chuckle about his misadventures. #It’sBeenBrutal”
Dana Stripling of Austin, Tex., wrote, “I will spend extra money to be part of specialized Twitter posts, t-shirts, mugs, etc., if proceeds go to combat this administration’s un-American and destructive agenda.”
“No, I would not want to buy any covfefe-wear,” wrote David Toberisky of New York. “First, I’m not interesting in highlighting anything Trump has to say. Second, Trump is bound to try to copyright the word (if you can call it that) and send the entire FBI out to arrest anyone wearing or owning stuff not authorized by and directing revenue to Trump Enterprises.”
Deborah L. Jacobs of Brooklyn, N.Y. wrote, “I would gladly buy one of these t-shirts if I could choose to have the profit donated to a cause that helps people who will be harmed by the policies of our incompetent and illiterate leader.”
Barrington Lloyd-Lovett of Oakland, Calif., said, “I would not spend money to commemorate the ‘covfefe’ kerfuffle. While it’s a funny typo (made more hilarious by how long it took for Trump to address the mis-tweet) it’s also yet another example of how off-the-rails this administration is. The fact that the president was attempting to address accurate media coverage, via Twitter, in the middle of the night, then didn’t address his mistake for many hours, says much more about the situation at the White House than the typo itself. It’s not worth the dough.
“No,” says Michal Kelly Miller of Oregon. “Because it is the promotion of stupidity.”
Richard Watt of New Rochelle, N.Y. wrote, “Would I buy one? Not on your life. I rather use spare money for charitable giving than more junk; something Donald Trump would know nothing about.” How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business
Donna Landwehr of Highlands Ranch, Colo., wrote, “I would not buy. But I do get great joy reading all the takes on how to interpret covfefe.”
Russ MacDonald of Salem, Mass., wrote, “I would not spend money on the T-shirt. [But] we finally have evidence of Trump creating jobs – T-shirt manufacturing.”
Trump’s tweeted typo covfefe becoming vanity license plates
Color of Money columns this week Knowledge isn’t power. The right knowledge is power.
Stay informed about your money. Read and share my columns for this week. — A new rule on retirement savings advice is in your best interest
— College grads face next hurdle: Paying back student loans
Have a question about your finances? Michelle Singletary has a weekly live chat every Thursday at noon where she discusses financial dilemmas with readers. You can also write to Michelle directly by sending an email to [email protected]. Personal responses may not be possible, and comments or questions may be used in a future column, with the writer’s name, unless otherwise requested. To read more Color of Money columns, go here.
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