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The Salvation Day Interviews (2 of 2) with musician Anthony Tadlock

     Dear listener, this is part 2 of 2 of my Salvation Day Interviews with Anthony Tadlock, A.K.A. t-underneaththeradardancing on Tumblr. For reference, Part 1 is here. Without further ado let’s start picking T’s oddly poetic and musical brain once again...

    Mr Tadlock, SD’s style of music seems quite distinct and doesn’t sound exactly like any other band I’ve heard of. When you two record music, what is the specific style you’re aiming for? Do you and Ms Vita Rhie Quintanilla align on any favorite influences that heavily sway your sound? Do you two enjoy the same type of music outside of SD? How much does classical or modern music affect your own expression as musicians?

     whether we are recording - playing live - just fucking around (what passes for "practice/rehearsal ") we dont actually aim for a style - early on we talked in general about "goals" we agreed that what we aim for is transcendent magic healing - and we will settle for being in tune and not sucking - influences many and varied but both agree if on a desert island - and could only have one album it would b miles davis "kind of blue" - we both enjoy a wide range of music...

     everything we hear - have heard - from classical to punk rock influences us - we also play a fair amount of "covers" live - a typical example would be "i know places" which is a kind of dirge by lykke li - vita had never heard it before - it was a staple in my live performances at the time - vita listened to what i had done w it and it became a staple of early performances having morphed into almost a stax type r&b - like many songs we play - we worked out the arrangement during performances with little or no discussion about arrangement

     I find that some of the most effective musical groups out there are duos. There’s just something that seems more concentrated and concise about a duo’s ability to wrap an album in a tight bow. Compared to other musical projects you’ve worked on in the past, do you prefer dealing with one single other creative mind… or many others… and what are the disadvantages of both from your point of view? When you’re playing guitar and she’s singing, for example, how do you deal with the inevitable issue of adding percussion to ‘enhance’ a track or live performance?

    at this time there are actually 3 members of SD - the 3rd is london - he plays guitar and bass - is engineering / producing our next project - at various times we have had a 3rd musician join us for a song or 2 - and there is maggie umber the artist, who created our web site - a video and some behind the scenes stuff - which is not precisely answering the question - i understand about duos though - with 2 minds/ souls it is easier to keep the connection - the unspoken - and be as 1 - with the whole being more than the sum of - it was only in making the album and making hard choices / dealing with forced choices and realities that i realized my true role / gift as a guitarist/musician is being a catalyst for magic to happen - to digress - often at open mics - peeps play along from their seats - impromptu collabs occur - sometimes the whole place becomes the stage - today im gonna prob play 1 song w the host/emcee - we have played 2x together - 1st time was cuz someone who had someone die that they were close to requested she play hendrix purple haze and she asked me if i could - tho i have heard the song countless times - the last time i played parts of it - i was maybe 15 - but it’s a simple structure - i said give me a minnit - went outside tried out chords as i remembered and something resembling the guitar parts - spent maybe 5 minutes total - came back in and said yah sure but u have to sing - no rehearsal - loose and nothing like note for note - ffs i dont play anything note for note or exactly the same way twice –

    anyway - it’s like that w vita - she often asks - can we play xxx - i say sure - look up chords if i dont know and ...w vita it has been consistent magic from the start and while not effortless by any stretch - we both put everything we have into the music as we play - whether we are loosely playing in my dining room / her living room - out in the street - onstage - sometimes we think there is no audience and a neighbor will later say they liked it - or look up on the street and realize we have attracted a small audience - in terms of the limitations - especially when vita isnt playing guitar - partially i am accustomed to playing solo just me and guitar - have developed different strategies for compensating / filling holes in the sound - that said we have wanted a percussionist from day 1 - on the album and ep we used synthesized drums / percussion which can be hard cuz we are a bit quirky - so in some ways salvation day will always be vita and t at the core - tho our 1 performance w london was ez and in some ways our best - and playing w him is ez and natural - unfortunately no recording

    I have but one final query and it’s a general one, so buckle your fuckles. I’m curious Mr Tadlock, what do you think of the state of modern music? When I listen to Salvation Day, I hear a group that is 100% genuine. You’ve got an interesting story and your entire act and delivery is sincere… when I turn on modern radio I just hear utter nonsense. Nonsense that is often dumbed down by multimillion dollar corporations that are trying to turn the talents of others into a saleable product. Do you think the vast majority of modern music is even healthy for people, and is there a conscientious effort on your behalf to keep the presentation pure with Salvation Day?

     the state of modern music ? idk tbh - it’s a scattered and confusing landscape - like always - much of wat is out there is crap - but then again - i lissen to 60s station on sirius when on road trips w the unpoet and much of what i hear is pretty crappy and i love the 60s lol - same same modern music which i get sporadic exposure to via tumblr instagram and youtube - hearing while in cafes or in ride shares - SNL ... and every once in a while an absolute gem is heard so is "mainstream " pop /commercial music "healthy" - fuck if i know - i remember 1st listening to top 40 am radio in 1st grade - loved the chipmonks (Alviiiiiiin!) singing witch doctor - a one off "flying purple people eater " lots of "novelty records " when previously listened to moms opera and frank sinatra - beatles werent on the radar yet but beach boys - mostly vacuous but fun - have gone thru phases - only listened to jazz and opera for almost a decade - have compulsively listened to 1 album or artist for periods - was any of it "healthy" maybe - it fomented trance and being outside myself - sometimes music is entertainment - sometimes just background for a lot of people - but also a way of coming together - a way to express confusing/conflicting emotions - i could critique modern music as being cookie cutter and meaningless - but no more than say doo wop dang a langa ding dong indeed or has there ever been anyone more transgressive than little richard then again chuck berry stooping to my dingaling ffs

     so did we do we trynna keep it "pure" w salvation day - fuck yah - i mean how fucking audacious (pretentious) to call it Path of Sacred Art - i thot our producer understood and they did sorta but - and i love our album but at one point i almost walked away from it - the process slowly grinds - yah rough edges r smoothed but - a case in point - the epitome of early salvation day - the sacred art side was/is "reincarnation" something went terribly wrong in the studio - after spending waaaay too much time recording vita's guitar - and too much autotune on her vocal - her guitar track had a "glitch" making it unusable - by the time that was discovered vita was in davis again - covid was just about to go into the lock down phase ...it was expedient to hire a classic trained studio musician that the producer knew and could record studio quality on his laptop

     and tbh i still am not sure how much of the electric on it is actually me or if some was replaced w same studio guitarist - little dramas like this went on for months during the mixing process and much of the email text exchanges w producer were late night sleep ruining drama - in the interest of ever getting the album finished - vita - whom i gave ultimate decision making since they are her songs - deeply personal - she has literally shed blood (read her book) during the writing of performing recording , allowed almost all of her guitar to b scrapped - replaced by same studio musician - tho to said musicians credit - she did a good job of re creating vita - and if some of my guitar - we only talking about a few notes - was also replaced - she faithfully re created - tho i did go in studio one day a couple weeks after recording was "finished" and laid down a lot of riffs / repeating lines / solos and i was sooooo stoned i truthfully dont remember - in those daze because of intense constant pain - i used what in retrospect were enormous amounts of thc and cbd - no other drugs or alcohol but i was high 24-7 and rarely got as much as 3 hours sleep a night - anyway - so yah we did our best to keep it pure - and there is nothing cookie cutter about the album

     T !!! JFC !!! Thanks so much for your time and your FANTASTIC riffing here on Tumblr. Listen to Salvation Day here on YouTube or here on Spotify. Their website is here. If you liked this post, please spread the word about SD and consider reblogging this set of interviews. And if you haven’t done it yet, scroll to the top and middle-bottom of this post and smash play!

Umber for your choice ^^

Umber - Who do you call your friend? How many Friends do you have?

Vespers actually has friends and acquaintances all over the place. Artists attracted to artists and whatnot. Though his work is with clothing, he also collaborates on various pieces for a variety of projects. It’s how he’s earned a name for himself in the fashion world.

This being said, Vespers’ most solid friend is Maggie. He doesn’t see her as the most sensible, but he knows she will always have his back.

When Vespers does get to know the D’Vitts he’s going to find it a nice change of pace to have a friend group not focused around feeding each other’s creative ambitions. It’s a part of why he begins to consider settling down in town to begin with.

It’s selfish of me, but I’m planning to leave on the 21st.

Names

I guess I want to put Ellen’s picture in there because she’s beautiful. Was thinking: is that a good enough reason?  Well, I want our authors to be recognizable and attractive like pop stars from the 80’s. 

Is this rock beautiful, or just the photograph of it? Ellen sends photographs of a rock, trees, doors ajar, clipped roses. The rose is a ceramic among living plants. Centering, what do I have to say about it? 

Raighne does clinical trials,  as a symbol and as a business model. Previously it was Kickstarters. Credit cards, the work of constant e-mailing while on the clock as a security guard at the Minniapolis Insititue of Contemporary Art, with ex-wife and ex-2dcloud member Maggie Umber. It works out or it doesn’t. It was worth it or it wasn’t. Obviously success is preferable, but, its a risky business publishing, and publishing these kinds of books.  2d is what he’s doing with his life. It’s more than him. He always says ‘We’.  I design books, I run the instagram, we co-curate, with me doing more and more of it. I’m working on a book myself. 

This guy in line at the cafe looks like Stewart Lee. Short, in cargo shorts and a hawaiian shirt, militaristic haircut, mischievous grin. I was thinking maybe I’m finding it difficult to live with Blaise because we’re both mirrors — he’s just more explicit about it, or insistent on this role, adament. eye-for-an-eye, but anything could be made into an eye. Someone has to be a person. I’ve been staying at Sarah Cuje’s place. She just moved here from New Jersey, then a month in, heads back for a month. I’ve tied a piece of her olive fabric around my wrist which has attatched a pendant in the form of a bit of cotton sealed in a circle of soft plastic. She’s got a cotton ball phobia, which makes it more curious.

Other pendants -- a cicada husk on a delicate clasp left in my room

also in my room a sewing needle hanging on thread (perfect loop)

I've been thinking that I'm living on the head of a pin; and I didn't say as much in my last letter to Ellen but I was thinking it -- I mentioned that I was on the brink, but saved by the space Cuje's lending me. I'm saved by a number of things though. I'm where I should be, which includes the expression of my marriage proposal if not its acceptance. I'm married to something. Maybe a group of dispersed individuals. Anti-socialites.

I remember feeling like Tom Ripley when Matt Fishbeck gave me his place for a week, within a week of our meeting for the first time at a bar -- The Lucky Joy. And sometimes I feel like I’m doing a Matt Fishbeck impression for Blaise.  It’s less what you’re painting than looking like you know what you’re doing with your body. You can make an ok enough painting like you can a haircut if you do it confidently.

The only person I can think to look up to Hedi el Kholti. 

In Cuje’s 

I can’t hate Ellen, or be too angry with her, but I’ll dislike Caleb somewhat— crouched, grinning, cradling a bottle of Prosecco, captioned — I love Prosecco! He's not as interesting, but he comes with a garden.

I googled Prosecco, the future of the sparkling wine is in peril, news from two days ago— the grapes have been stricken with new diseases and further disadvantaged by climate change in the moutains of Northern Italy. Farmers are dubbing the season “anus horribilis”.

I can’t make a clear claim to God, I can’t tell you where God would figure in our hypothetical life. I’m G.W Chesterton's mystic, or I've been reading about Pragmatism (I'm American). She mentioned obedience, but in her diaries— obedience is ranked lower than beauty. Most people should be obedient, but some people can skip it by being beautiful. I'm beautiful to her. Well, what though? I’m just the opposite side of the spectrum in every way? In multiples we can fill the gaps? What do I have in common with Ellen? We look at ideas in the air. She thinks she's uncool and that I'm cool, citing the photograph of me giving a presentation in New York without shoes on.

Caleb comes with a garden. Am I more like Liza? Is Ellen more like Caleb? Is Liza like Ellen? Am I like Caleb? Ellen, well, what, we’re both sensualists— creature comforts. Delicate coffee drinks, flowers, drawing, books, walks. She said something similar about Caleb as me; that he’s not really a person, more like an animal wearing human clothing. I’m sure she might be embarassed by it now, though maybe not:  how she wanted to impress upon me how he seemed, more than anything else, like an elderly woman.

Well none of it is so clean — I was going to say, Ellen and Liza are both highly organized when it comes to space and things; and that’s something I thought would be good— because I’m so messy, and need to keep my drawings organized at least.  Liza could be even more organized than Ellen, I thought, though I haven’t seen Ellen’s place in person. I was going to say Liza is probably more attendant to organizing time, then remembered how each day Ellen writes the day’s name — eg ‘Thursday’. That’s something else though. Like paying her respect to the day and to the notion of names in general. Every day has a name. Holy names.

I’m infinitely stoned

What’s worse— being looked at or looking? Being a looker. 

Becoming annoyed by the whiny voices of people 

Maggie Umber

so should i - mansplain - cuz if its mansplain u want - well - imma man who splains  - everything almost  - hint - the answer iz aliens - ancient ones  - lol

how many dimensions and what senses  - maybe synesthesia - while we at it - do they hear music  - the mushrooms and cacti tell stories stored in archaic memory  about the future enfolding 

and we off and running - free verse like a free bird played on kazoos  ( a conceptual concert i imagined  )  -  a deep space 9 cosmos  - did t jest change the subject  

fukken men  or maybe just poets - bjork sez we liars 

about the plants 

idk but i think yah - they see  - what we see is really expectation and belief - maybe they see reality 

Our Pre-sale Bundle collects our three new books:

Mirror Mirror 3 by Plum

Röhner by Max Baitinger

Copy Kitty by Kyung-me

plus three tried and true books selected from our catalog:

Yours by Margot Ferrick

Gulag Casual by Austin English

Sound of Snow Falling by Maggie Umber

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Books ship in September.

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Maggie Umber http://maggieumber.tumblr.com

 SOUND OF SNOW FALLING ( @maggieumber ) just arrived today by oversea shipping

A kind of owls are living near my house so we can hear the sing of owls at the night time.This comic novel is so lovely. Thank you Maggie!!

初めてアマゾンUSA使って発注していた本が届きました。森に住むフクロウのお話を書いたコミックノベルです。絵が素晴らしいです。絵本をディスプレイする棚に早速おきました。

奄美にはリュウキュウコノハズクというフクロウの仲間が住んでいて、宿の近くでもよく夜になると鳴き声が聞こえます。フクロウの唄を聞きながら眠るのも気持ちいいですよ。

Smash Pages Q&A: Maggie Umber

Maggie Umber is the acclaimed cartoonist behind the books 270˚, Sound of Snow Falling, Time Capsule and other comics. She is also one of the founders of 2d Cloud, which in the past decade has established itself as one of the most important comics publishers in North America.

Umber wrote a blog post recently about the state of 2D Cloud and her own health, and about how the company plans to move forward. The company has just launched Artist Book Boxes at the Center of the Universe, a Kickstarter for the company’s 2019 lineup. We spoke recently about her new book, what kinds of books 2d Cloud will be publishing this year and why they just couldn’t walk away from the company.

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Maggie Umber

imma butterfly - baked and shape shift snake - in maggies bun world - imma like that world better than 

one - where it app hare ant  robert e lee - it is punishable by death to block a drive thru - it happen last night in georgia 

if u r going to mars - now is the time - unfortunately written 1909 - still - timely 

It’s been two years since our last release. 

This season we have three new titles and we’re bundling them together with three classic works. 

Röhner by Max Baitinger. Röhner’s coming to crash and he’s going to ruin your life. Dry, funny, perfect. Keywords: Coffee, gin-and-tonics, parties, IKEA, eBay, Röhner (oh no…), RÖHNER (OH NO!)

Copy Kitty by Kyung-Me. A cat loves a boy. See it all play out across landscapes abounding with references to Korean folklore and Looney Toons, 20-hour graphite drawings. Hardcover.

Mirror Mirror III. The latest installment in our flagship anthology. Here Brooklyn-based collective Plum — Haejin Park, Paige Mehrer, and Sophie Page — will show you interactions between fairies, food, and energy taking place within streams, on the dinner table, and hidden in the grass. 

With these you receive 3 additional titles from our catalogue:

Maggie Umber’s wordless, extensively researched piece on great horned owls. Sound of Snow Falling. 

A collection of Austin English’s animated paintings of figures overwhelmed by grotesque feelings in the city. Die Brücke electrified. Gulag Casual.

And Yours, the sonorous debut book from Margot Ferrick. Words breathe, swell, arrive, and recede. Ferrick Channels intensity into intimacy, transforming their singular subject — audiences. Love letters. 

Complete your collection or give some books to a friend. 

Three classic titles and three new works. 

Bundled together for $39.   The Spring Collection.

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Thank You. 2dcloud

(Raighne, Stephen Z Hayes, Maggie Umber, Melissa Carraher, Nayef Nebhan, Kyung-Me, Ash HG, Annabelle Dunstan, Casey Carsel, Keiler Roberts, Saman Bemel-Benrud)

music by Fire-Toolz (Angel Marcloid) + Holy Shit |  fire-toolz.bandcamp.com

Maggie Umber http://maggieumber.tumblr.com