What do we know about this show? Do we have any more details about this show?! Maybe SK is gradually coming into a new era of LGBTQI+ acceptance (at least in media)??? 🌈🌈🌈 https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/05/south-korean-ott-platform-wavve-under-discussion-for-a-new-gay-dating-entertainment-program

I WAS JUST TALKING TO KEVIN ABOUT THIS OMG. Your link (which, allkpop is trash but I'll allow it because there's not much else about this out there):

And here's the text so you ain't even gotta click if you don't wanna.

Oh look boys kissing! No? Identifiable boys close to each other! Definitely gay boys! Still... no?

No seriously I stole that pic straight off of KBIZoom talking about the EXACT SAME SHOW POSSIBILITY - but they had to censor the shots in case anyone thought the models might be ... kinda GAY. I believe we see closer stuff than that on your average Memories DVD:

BUT ANYWAY Kevin and I were discussing it - he brought it up. And I was like "uh BL (boy love) is a huge market, it'd be stupid not to make some bank on it" and he goes, "This is Korea. Boy love as a genre is acceptable here because it's fiction. A reality show with actual people willing to be out on television is going to be a hard sell for both the audience and the potential cast." So I go well what about the fact that they're even considering it then, and he goes,

"Considering, curious about, beginning market research on, all words that mean this is not something that is ready to happen here yet. Maybe in the next administration, but not now. They probably started round-table-ing this idea a year ago, but with Yoon in office? It's not happening. Give it a few years to let the idea simmer and see what the next President does." But my trash white American girl opinion is that of course it would be a great idea -- in theory, it could open some eyes. Except that the conservatives wouldn't watch it. Much like Drag Race here and in Europe, it would be a niche market for the first few years. WATCH ME JUST DIGRESS HERE I DO THAT SOMETIMES

Kim Chi competed on and nearly won Season 8 of RuPaul's Drag Race, and is a Korean man with Korean parents. He is 34 years old and at the time he competed, his mother knew only that he was a gay makeup artist. His father and his brother didn't even know he was gay. And I'm not sure they know now. And this dude lives in Los Angeles by way of Chicago. I can't imagine what his life would be like in Seoul, or Daegu, or Busan. And while Kev agreed that yeah, okay, drag is a step farther, he also said, interestingly, that drag might have been MORE acceptable to his own Korean mother (rest her soul) than having a gay son would have been. Because he could have argued that he was into it for the theater - a bit of Japanese kabuki styling - versus "oh hey eomma I do sexy time with men, woke up gay today, bit fruity."

So the upshot is that gay fiction is one thing, but gay reality is entirely another. We're back to the "we don't talk about those things here, it isn't polite." Enjoying the romantic drama of two young (they're always young, Kevin noted, not being particularly young himself) pretty men is not the same thing as seeing Jungshin from accounting on a dating show.... for GAY PEOPLE. And Kevin pointed out that honestly, even BTS are seen as fictional characters in Korea (and likely elsewhere). The idea that they are real human men with real romantic interests and real sex drives doesn't really fly, there. Not yet, anyway. So the "boy love" aspect is fine, as long as they're young, famous, pretty, and they don't admit to TOO much.

This is okay. ETA: and the above shot is edited, in case anyone didn’t know. See my fictional character point?

This is okay. But if they kissed or came out, that would NOT BE OKAY. And Taekook is not real, but the Jeon Parks are about as loud as they can get what with dropping honorifics like that, so as long as they're riding the line of fiction vs reality they're still okay. Full on reality or even depicting reality, though, is still not okay - at least, not on the Seoul Broadcasting Network (SBS), who censored out the kisses in "Bohemian Rhapsody", the Freddie Mercury biopic as recently as 2021. And that caused some backlash on the internet:

But it hasn't changed a thing on the networks. YET. Maybe someday. Hope springs eternal.

yeah now i see why ppl censor the words cshpp/pypl/vnmo/kfi lmfao ive gotten like five fucking bots replying to that goddamn post about pet insurance. im just gonna delete the fuckin tags

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So About That Instagram Thing...

I asked my gay-ass Korean oppa about it and Kevin had this to say: "Well some ARMY is like 'I really wanna kidnap Jimin, can I' and Jungkook says 'sure", like, 'give it your best shot' but maybe less threatening and more jokingly." I asked Kev to explain further in Middle American White Girl language and he said "Look, this is sassy gay possibly buzzed black belt Jungkook trying to be cute and funny but also letting you know that in no way is that ever happening. See any airport photo for illustrative purposes."

SO I DID

And well, yes, it does look like we have at minimum TWO black belts, not counting the WHOLE ASS SECURITY TEAM but the point was, was Koo serious, and Kev's answer was "NO. FOR FUCK'S SAKE, Jaya-ah. Are you, like, TEN YEARS OLD?"

I MEAN, MAYBE? It's been a long couple of weeks okay GET OFF ME KEVIN DAMN. So I double down on the crazytown and I go "but insert delusional thought processes here tho" and he goes, and I quote:

"That's precisely the problem, isn't it? These virgins and children and conspiracy wackjobs don't listen to Jungkook all the times he says outright that he loves Jimin. They don't listen to Jimin all the times he says that he loves Jungkook. They pay no attention to the things they're shown. They don't listen to Taehyung when he tells them to step off. They didn't even listen to Jungkook's mother when she addressed Jimin like she would her own son, and said that she loved him. So WHY ON EARTH would you think they were capable of understanding humor?"

So I allowed as how if Jungkook wasn't really really joking then maybe I actually have a shot at the whole I'd Like To Borrow Your Jimin One Time Real Quick thing and Kev sent me this picture

And said, with no trace of irony or sarcasm, "I'd really like to see anyone, ever, try it." WELL OKAY THEN.

OKAY SO DON'T CALL YOUR KOREAN FRIEND AND ASK HIM IF HE CAN HELP WITH MATH

Unless you're me and your friend is Kevin From Itaewon and you already know he's already taken the whole week off work to get older and eat rice cake soup with brisket of all things. So it went kinda like this:

Me: Kev hey Kev oppa, I need a proper Korean, can you help me with some numbers and shit? KFI: You want help with MATH because I'm ASIAN?

Then this happened, metaphorically:

But after I recovered from being facepunched over FaceTime and Kev allowed as how he is actually very good at numerology type things (and also math but that's NOT RACIST I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT IT WAS A CULTURAL QUESTION OKAY DAMN) I explained about the whole furor over Jungkook's cover... sort of thusly:

Me: NO BITCH BUT I need numerology help with this Jungkook cover because apparently KARMY in your local area is all atwitter.

KFI: OH god, you're on the bird app again. I told you to stay off the bird app.

Me: X is on the bird app is he home?

KFI: IT IS ONE IN THE MORNING YES HE IS HOME AND NO HE IS NOT GETTING UP TO HELP YOU WITH THIS.

X, kind of blearily, walks up behind his man and waves. Y'ALL X IS SO CUTE HE'S KIND OF LITTLE AND JIMIN-DORABLE

Me: Oh hey X sorry, I suck. I'm bothering oppa about numerology as it relates to the Jungkook cover of "I Hate Everything" At this point Kev gets up to make his boyfie some tea and X and I chatter about the Jeon-Parks and Jimin's unfortunate erstwhile appendix and how COVID sucks and X allows as how Jimin will probably stay in hospital until the weekend because HE HEARD that Jimin's COVID was complicated. Probably due to the appendix. We have no receipts, this is just on the ground gossip. (Apparently HIPAA does not exist in Korea but okay).

ANYWAY tea is served and links are shared and X is working but only tomorrow afternoon for a few hours (today) so he decides to join us for a bit. I like having X around and actually being allowed to talk to him so I try VERY HARD TO BEHAVE MYSELF AND FAIL. MISERABLY. Like I do. We'll get to that later or not. Anyway I bust out the numbers like so: Me: So the video was cropped to 1:18 and 11/8 is the date of GCF Tokyo and this seems to be IDK kind of a thing. Is it a thing?

KFI: It might have been an accident, but I doubt it. If he did it on purpose it is definitely a thing. Did he do it on purpose? Me: I have no idea, oppa, do I live in the man's brain? But is that something that would, like, get done on purpose? Because KARMY seems to think that these two are always up in secret number code land doing secret number code things. X: That's true, they do! It's very popular here with couples. Kevi-hyung doesn't fully get it because he was raised in America. When we had our 2000 day anniversary I folded him 2000 origami swans and all I got was a week in Guam. Which was nice, but it wasn't TWO THOUSAND SWANS. Y'all I wish I had pictures of Kevin's face I feel like this is a thing that has come up more than once. I may have laughed out loud. KFI: .... Anyway. It might. Has he done things like this before? X: Kevi-hyung remember? I was telling you about this.

Me: Abouuut?

X: Just recently, when Jungkook did the Keep It On The Low cover!

Me: OH HOLD UP I HAVE A THING!!

And I did, I had this in my inbox from @kkhluvsbts from WEEKS AGO that got hung up in piles of crazy anons (and I apologize):

X goes: YES! That’s it!

And KFI goes: Oh. That’s very specific and a 1000 day or 1500 day anniversary is very significant. That Tokyo film is very romantic, I've seen it several times.

Me: SOOOO?!

KFI: I think that Jungkook must put thought into everything he does. A man who believes so strongly in destiny is very likely to do all those things on purpose, and their special numbers are clearly very important to both of them.

X: OMG Kevi-hyung we talked about this …

KFI: Sorry, I thought this whole thing was going to be about Life Path Numbers. Did you know you're a Life Path 4 with a Master Builder Number 22? Me: No. I don't know what that means. I DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL FOR MATH OKAY X: You ARE? Hyung never told me that! Here, do Jimin and Jungkook! It devolved from there. And if it's important to you Jungkook is a 9 and Jimin is a 2 with a Master Number 11 and I still don't know what it means except I haven't reached my full potential as a person. ANYHOO VERY LONG STORY SHORT (this turned into a two part call)... WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT: If you are a native Korean AND you were raised in Korea, number code is an actual thing that gets actually used and therefore probably none of this is a coincidence. The Jeon-Parks DO THIS SHIT ON PURPOSE. If you are Kevin and were raised in America you're more like I-ARMY in that way and it takes a minute to click. We also learned that X is more fun than Kevin when it comes to stanning BTS in general and the Jeon-Parks in particular, he knows how to fold a lot of swans, and I still don't know what Life Path numbers are. And that I just wrote a really long post for what is, essentially, information y'all already knew. SEND HELP IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER LONG DAY

More On English Cake Decorations or: Kev Calls His Man A Drunk Bastard and I LOL

Okay so Kev called X first I guess because he then called me a few hours ago and he goes like KFI: Why, pray tell, would you seriously listen to anything he tells you after the third drink? You know Baby's a right bastard when he's drunk. So I go: Uh, muscle relaxers and opiates? Whyyyy? KFI: Okay, history lesson. You know how when we're having a lesson and you say things like 'but ice cream is also ice cream in English'? Me: WELL IT IS OPPA GET OFF ME DAMN (it is. I am not lying. It sounds like ice-a-cream-eu.)

KFI: And remember how I told you that post WWII a lot of English got kind of sucked into Korean culture and language? Me: Yes, oppa (he did in fact say that.)

KFI: So basically every Korean school child can read basic romanization. They may not be able to pronounce "happy birthday" exactly but they know what it means. Me: Yes, oppa. (When Kev is without his X he becomes a professor, I don't know how else to describe this phenomenon of superior assholishness that consumes him but suffice it to say he needs to get laid and X has been over here for weeks.) KFI: So I saw your blog and I need to tell you that it has nothing to do with the cost of the cake. We gays are not superior cake buyers. Me: Yes you are. Remember that one time when [insert amazing cake story from college here] KFI: X is fucking with you, honey.

Me: Oh I KNOW THIS he won't even stream me decent video tonight and we all know he is going to BE AT THAT CONCERT PROBABLY. KFI: Believe me, girl, I have the same problem. But what I'm saying is that the reason for the English decorations is the same reason you see Merry Christmas signs in December in Seoul. It's cultural, it's not special, and everyone does it - like, almost everyone can write Happy Whatever Day on a cake if you hand them an icing gun, so next time my boyfriend tells you some elitist bullshit, tell him to suck it.

Me: Any it in particular? So that's why, I stand kind of semi corrected, and we don't base blog entries on X unless he's sober, is the lesson here. And Kev thinks icing is shot out of a weapon and I'm too scared to correct him. It's a good thing he's coming this way in a couple weeks, man needs to GET SOME I HOPE YOU'RE READING THIS IT'S JUST REVISION DAY AT THE JAYA HOUSE I GUESS DAMN.

Now I want cake for no good reason.

In Which I Text X Because Kev Is Pissing Me Off

Oh look. Shoulder thingy AND a peace sign. But does it mean anything, though? Let's find out. By the by it is 10:30ish AM on Monday in Seoul so I already know Kev is at his Real Adult Job. His boyfriend X, however, may not be, so.... I have done a Dumb Dongsaeng Thing and messaged The Boyfriend and it goes a little something like this. Me: Hi, glad you're still putting up with Kevin-oppa, he is a pain in my ass. Got my blog readers all riled up and stuff. But look dude I have a question. X: Kevin's at work. Ask me, maybe I can help. Me: What is the deal with the peace signs? Kev says y'all are out there queer coding peace signs which honestly makes very little sense to me because I thought all of Korea just did peace signs. You can't all be gay. So is your man just fucking with me or what? X: Well, he could be just fucking with you. I've heard that some kids use peace signs as code but unless they're wearing rainbow gloves I don't see how you'd determine which was code and which was just taking a photo. Me: See, I told him I thought that was finger guns. X: Well, you're bi, right? Me: OH COME ON. Anyway we were talking about Bangtan and that's why the question. They all do peace signs though. X: Oh. Yeah, aren't only about three of them possibly straight? I think the rest are somewhere on Team Alphabet, that's probably not a good sample group. Me: Yeah well I do have this:

Buuuut I also have this:

X: Oh well I see what you mean. Me: Good because I DON'T. When your boyfriend gets home you tell him I am displeased, flouncy, and coming to kick his ass all over Itaewon. X: I'll pass it along.

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