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A thing I noticed with the Glee fandom as well, is that whenever someone brings up Sam becoming a stripper for money for his family, everyone is apologetic towards him and takes his side.

But whenever someone brings up Puck sleeping with older women (who where grooming him) everyone either bats an eye or blames him. Puck had no parents who genuinely cared to help him (his dad, who kinda verbally abused Puck and used him, is gone and it's shown his mum is very withdrawn and kinda emotionally neglectful towards him and his sister). So he never even had a good role model like we know Sam has.

Neither of them where in control of their situation and we don't know what causes Pucks pool business to be more than that. Even if he did initiate it, it's with women more than half his age and women who are mothers who have kids around the same age as Puck (I'm sure it's confirmed in the episode Kurt becomes the kicker and it's played off as a joke because haha stud sleep with mum of enemy so funny). Even if Sam used his job to help his family and Puck used the money for himself, it doesn't matter.

What matters is they were minors and they have probably been majorly effected. I wouldn't be surprised if it's why Puck slept with many girls since it's the only form of validation he every really received and probably didn't even know if it was deemed as wrong. I'm not using this as an excuse for the bullying or what happened with Quinn but it does explain his actions.

Sorry for the rant but I hate how people blame the victim just because they are either 1-not the best character or 2-it doesn't suit the kind of person they are.

an anon glee rant in my inbox?? in 2022?? it's more likely than u think 😌 anyways my dear anon I do agree with u so I will be providing my thoughts as well.

yeah people's double standards when it comes to defending attractive white boys vs everyone else are fucking irritating to say the least, because while the way it's framed in the show is an undeniable factor in the way it's shown (you're meant to sympathize with sam vs with puck it's played off for joke's and how he should be lucky). it's not *just* that

don't underestimate how much regardless of the way something is written people will interpret it in their own way (example: the scene where Ryder is discussing his SA and both Sam and Artie are like oh you should be lucky that happened (keep in mind I'm not defending either of them) but people will only bring Arties reaction but never Sam's despite that both of them had the same reaction

( Even if he did initiate it, it's with women more than half his age .....Even if Sam used his job to help his family and Puck used the money for himself, it doesn't matter.)

that’s the thing !! puck is the victim here, there’s like no doubt about it !! you cant expect a 15 yo to know better and properly consent especially considering how he’s a child who is hypersexualised in addition to lacking stability in almost every aspect in his life and proper guidance.

yeah i dont think the point of bringing up how fucked up puck’s arc (and how its perceived) is a justification for what he did (specifically the (non-con) scene with quinn) its just a separate (if in a way related) thing.

dont apologize for it !! i think its worth bringing up.

#bro i hate sam so damn much i could write an essay about it #and i hate how the fandom treat him !!#anyways i think puck is a complicated character esp considering everything #but like this isnt just about him ykwim?#its always with these matter something bigger and more #anyways #anti sam evans #not really but !!#glee #noah puckerman #anon #myle mumbles answers #glee thoughts™#long post #negativity

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