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juliatulia · 5 months

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But Johnny told a different story when they went to New York. Johnny said that he and moz went to buy records and clothes. I think Morrissey is lying about it. I feel like he knows the real reason Joe Moss left, but instead of telling the truth, he acted like Moss and the rest of the band were planning to get rid of him

Are you confusing the trip they took in early 1984 with the tour in 1986? The 84 one seems very harmonious and productive, but on the later one things seems to have changed.

Some book or article refers to the Joe Moss thing (dont remember where) that he (and mike and andy) wanted the whole homoeroticism thing toned down a lot. Seems to woken some bad feelings among them that they should be so "flagrant". The song What do you see in him later became Wonderful Woman at I think Joes insistence. If he was a spokesperson for the other two or speaking for him self, i dont know.

The whole deal with the Joe Moss affair is so dufficult to judge 40 years later. The man has been dead for years and he didnt speak to the press about his time as manager. I never got a grasp of him as a person. Did he see Morrissey as a weak card in the line up? Did he just dislike him? Did he want The Smiths as a pure rock group who would appeal to the most neanderthal amongst us? Who knows. I never knew or understood why he suddenly left but I think if he meddled with artistic output, he wasnt going to last anyway.

#if he had purely been organising tours #cars concerts and so on he would probably been a good match for them as a group. they all seemed to need a mentor figure who could lead #them in a good direction. but if he wanted artistic control and control of appearances they made he probably overstepped.#it wasnt so uncommon to replace a singer or other member of a band in those days. half of manchester claims to have been a early sniths #*smiths. i could be a clash of personalities or power struggle. very hard to say. johnny rogan wrote a book about different rock managers #and their role and manager style. (i own a copy but i cant find it :() could check if he wrote anything about him there.#morrissey #johnny marr #the smiths #marrissey

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