#it was so great to see lucas's pov and inner thoughts
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i have to ask... bc im yr cambaby anon... but yr masterlist says one sided pining and i have to ask... is the reader pining or are some of the idols pining after her (well ik she thinks the world of jin and johnny) - 🍓
the idols all pine for her! thanks for the question bb, look, let me show you, i tried to make all the guys soft for her in ways, some are obvious like Jaehyun, but some are softer and more show it with their actions :) all of these quotes are found in the end of the fics ;)
this is a pretty lengthy analysis lol, but you can see the progression of the series quite well i think :)
Mark Tuan :
When he comes to a stop, you both just kneel there for a few moments, catching your breaths. Then the coin noise interrupts your thoughts and Mark chuckles, pressing a kiss to your shoulder, “say goodnight to your fans and come cuddle.” he tells you, sliding from your cunt and collapsing on his bed, quickly hiding under the covers
This section is in cambaby's perspective so i can't dive into Mark's thoughts, so we have to show his pining in actions.
Mark's very soft and quiet, but the domesticity and comfort in him jus saying 'say goodnight to your fans and come cuddle' like- soft boy, in my experience, fuck buddies aren't HUGE cuddlers you know?
Jaebum :
when your phone is away, you turn to look at Jaebeom. He strokes your face, fingers coming to touch the collar still on your neck. He takes it off gently, putting it on his bedside table.
You like the quiet with Jaebeom, every second needn’t be filled by word
Another section in y/n's perspective means we can't say what Jaebum is thinking so we have to look at his actions
the way he touches her so lovingly- softly touching the collar and gently taking it off, this is soft aftercare and the comfort they have in each other is obvious in the silence im so soft for them
Lucas / Hendery / Johnny :
“What about aftercare?” Hendery’s voice is unsure, wide eyes darting between you and your two big protectors.
Johnny scoffs, “what do you two know about aftercare? Look at Lucas, he’s about to pass out.”
Lucas does look really tired.
Lucas simply shrugs, tugging you to his chest so he can press a kiss to your mouth, his tongue invading your mouth before he bites down on your bottom lip, a smirk on his face, “see you later baby.”
this scene has 4 people in it but is mostly y/n's 2nd person pov, so again, body language of the boys is key
Hendery is whipped and asks about aftercare because he's soft boy
Lucas is tired but he makes sure to say goodbye and use pet names, he's a lazy kind of lover but it works for him i think
Johnny showing up at all to drive them home goes to show how whipped he is for cam baby lol
Jinyoung :
he never falls asleep easier than when you’re with him, and you’re already passed out. But tonight, it takes a while for Jinyoung to get out of his own thoughts, too many anxieties running through his head.
Five orgasms was enough. One for each man you’ve slept with on camera. He’s not sure why that number means something to him, he doubts you’ll even consider it. But for some reason, it calms something bubbling in his chest.
You mumble his name in your sleep, and it’s the last thing he hears before passing out, a smile on his lips, cheek nestled against your forehead
our first scene in the dude's pov so we can see their feelings!
Jinyoung has the domestic watching you sleep trait, and he uses this time to face his anger and jealousy. although he doesn't overtly state he loves the reader, the clues in this scene are enough to hint that he does ;) like what's softer than falling asleep with a smile after kissing the forehead of the girl you just fucked the shit out of-
Taehyung :
“Stay the night.” Taehyung says, kissing your forehead as he cuddles you tighter, “and for breakfast.”
You laugh a little, humming with happiness as you burrow yourself deeper into the embrace. “How could I skip breakfast when I’m your main dish?” you tease.
Taehyung smiles, fuck, he loves-
Oof. He has to reel in his thoughts. Love is not on the table. It never has been.
Then why the hell does he keep feeling this way about you?
He’d met you through Namjoon originally. The entire maknae line had been in awe of you that first night, and you’d closely become friends with them all. Namjoon had told them all later that you were friends with a lot of idols and had worked in the industry for a while. He’d said you were discreet and a great companion, someone who understood what they were going through with work.
Someone who wouldn’t be a risk. Your feelings would never be compromised. Namjoon said you had a handle on your emotions and that friends with benefits with you would never result in any unwanted or sticky feelings.
On your end at least.
The sex is great, you’re a great girl, wonderful to talk to- who wouldn’t fall in love with you?
Taehyung looks down at you, you’re already asleep. He brushes a finger across your cheek, removing a stray lash that was there. He looks at the lash for a moment on the pad of his finger. After a moment of reflection, he blows it away and makes a wish, although he knows it will never come true.
Taehyung's pov really sheds light on a lot of this. it sets y/n as an idol fuck buddy (referred to tae by rm) who's good at not catching any 'sticky/unwanted feelings' so this alludes to the fact that she's probably not catching feels with ANY of her fuck buddies
Tae solidifies 'who wouldn't fall in love with [y/n]' hinting that everyone in the series is in love with her
taehyung knows it's one-sided pining when he makes a wish on a stray eye lash :(
Jaehyun :
They act as if this is the most normal thing in the world, Johnny pulling you to his side so you can taste his cooking. Johnny makes you open your mouth so he can spoon feed you, making an ‘ah’ sound that has Jaehyun’s skin heating with jealousy.
He has to remind himself, you’re not his.
And, from the way you look up at Johnny with stars in your eyes, he realizes you may never be.
our most recent boy Jaehyun, like Jinyoung, also gets his own inner monologue of jealousy :(
this solidifies Jae's pining, but also Johnny's again when he babies y/n and feeds her at the stove, because Johnny is low key the central figure of the series lol
#strawberry anon#strawberry#analysis#i love analyzing work tbh#especially my own cuz i plan these fics so hard core sometimes#especially series#so it's fun to explain little details :)
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What I like and dislike about each Skam Version:
The order is when I watched them. Which is basically the same order when they came out since I watch clip for clip live with every version since the evak cuddle clip 3 years ago. I won't point out things twice if a remake did it exactly the same. For example the blackmailing of Noora. Disliked it in the og, ditto with every other version. Another disclaimer: I don't have a favorite version since no one was perfect from first to last season. Different versions have different favorite seasons for me.
What I loved about the og 🇳🇴: The complete different format of a show with the clips, social media, roughly camera work that made it look like a reality show or documentary. The actors being the age of their characters and not all being thin, beautiful models. The pov and seing the boring aspects of life too. All the casual parties. The music and the whole russbus culture. In general getting to know so much about other cultures that I didn't thought about before for even a minute. Eva standing up for herself and breaking up with Jonas. Penetrator Chris as the comic relief, he may be a fuckboy, but he is isn't sexist or homophobic, his one liners are iconic. A normal reaction to Isak being gay and Evak actually getting an happy ending and a proper love scene like any hetero couple gets. Eskilds gay pride speech, it made me rethink my own mindset, as well as Sanas line about hate doesn't come from religion, it comes from fear and her whole conversation with yousef about religion. The guys helping Isak get back his man and Magnus hilarious questions, but also his helpful advice. Everything in the scene with Eva's 18th birthday. Even singing imagine. The cuddle clip, literally my favorite clip in all the versions, the spiderman kiss and the universe talk. Yousana love shown without any touching. The girls picking up Sana with the los losers bus. The ballon squads YouTube channel. How sweet and protective Elias was about Sana. 5 fine frøkner! Kosegruppa. If I could chose I would want a season for Magnus and Penetrator Chris.
What I disliked: Jonas treating Eva like she's stupid. Everything with William pretty much, starting with his non existent personality to blackmailing Noora, dissing Vilde, not listening after the SA happening etc. Nooras completely change in attitude from feminist to falling for the fuckboy and betraying your friend, also, ik most of the fans love it, her speeches, the one at William and also the one at Nicolai, it was just too long and arrogant to me sorry, I don't thought yes queen, I more thought yeah okay we got it already. The lack of communication with literally everyone. Vilde being so judgemental. Eva 'stealing' Jonas. Even not being able to speak for himself about his MI. The hate against Sonja, yes her saying Even can't love was fucked up, but her outrage and pain was more than understandable for me. The call your gf scene, idk it just makes me uncomfortable and I just felt bad for the girls. The whole show basically revolving around Noora in every season and her amount of screen time. Chris and Emma in the end, a huge wtf that made no sense and came out of nowhere, as well as Jonas and Eva's suddenly reunion.
What I loved about 🇮🇹: Be aware that I'm biased since Italy is my favorite country since childhood. I love everything about it. Landscapes, food, clothes, cars, the men^^ and ofc the language and names. First and foremost the cinematography. Also the music. All the girls being pretty as fuck. I feel like they where more mature too, but that goes for the boys and Eduardo too. Elia being there since season 1. The skating shenanigans. Martino and Eva being the closest version of this friendship (which is why I hope they continue this in the next season and make them close again, not going for the best buds). Their parents being more involved. Edoardo not insulting Silvia. Giovanni constantly cursing and gesturing like the true Italian that he is. Ofc the bromance in s2, that was what the season was all about for me more than the romance (reason in the dislikes), how they all cared for each other, had actual conversations, were with marti everywhere and always supported him. Gio being the best friend ever and constantly checking in on marti. How all the boys and edos rich gang stood up for marti against the homophobes, I never cheered so loud during a clip istg. The man, the myth, the legends Chico roddi :D. Eduardos soft side, when he played creep or cried when Eleonora could tell him herself what happend. The way they merged the squads together and all hang out boys and girls and also Filippo. Filippo and Eleonora being siblings and literally everything that fillipo does, his sassyness is unmatched. Cute Short king luca, carefree elia. Seriously I could write novels about this boy squad. Their parties and how they do them at 9pm during business days. Guardami Martino! 😂 If I could chose I would want a Gio and Fillipo season.
What I disliked: The darkness, especially s2 although it looked romantic a lot of times. The way Gio kisses, listen I love him with all my heart but he looks like he wants to eat faces or lick them like a dog 😂. I couldn't get into Niccolò, he never grew on me, came of kinda cold and the chemistry between the actors compared to the other versions isn't that great imo. It also has the only Sana I don't like and don't care for her season. It's not bc of the controversy about the actress. She just comes of rude in the show and also has way too less scenes to get excited for her pov, Her relationship with Marti is also non existent. The lack of social media and texts. Some of the actors looking way too old.
What I loved about 🇫🇷: The many changes of season 3. The piano scene with literally heart eyes. Eliott being the biggest dork. Eliott being able to express his feelings about his MI. Eliott saying it's not a girl. The rain kiss. Lucas being a major cutie. His relationship with the girls and Manon in particular. How they helped Daphne with the room. That we get an Arthur season, he's my favorite Madhi. How happy they were when Lucas came out and how they cheered everytime they saw Eliott. The elu social media content. Yann apologizing for his behavior and comments in the past. The hedgehog and racoon personas. Imans dad. Alexia and Arthur becoming a thing. The bts and Interviews, especially the attentive Maxel friendship.
What I disliked: The first two seasons being 1:1 copy from the og, I only watched them bc I had a close french friend when it aired. The whole Charles shit in s3&4. The acoustic music often being a bit to on the nose, like the music before a jumpscare in horror movies, for example the common room meeting, it was so obvious they would fall in love. S3 of France is probably my favorite version of this season, but it is like a dramatic romcom movie and felt less realistic compared to the others and the og. Emma is super bland and kinda dumb. Mika being super rude to Lucas. The disrespect against iman. Sofiane actually dating Manon.
What I loved about Druck 🇩🇪: (Also biased since I am german) Jonas sweetness. Hans is hilarious. Jonas and Hannah reunion. Kiki turning into the sweetest. The girl squad being really close. The boy squad being dumbasses. The change of Alex and showing his anxiety. Kiki and Carlos being a wholesome couple. The changes and extra content. Amira and Mohammeds softness. Their sm game.
What I disliked: The dialogue sounds very cringey to me and super scripted. The Mia actress looks like she doesn't like to kiss Alex at all, no chemistry and no love to be seen for me. Mia being arrogant in general. That Amira had only 7 episodes and Mia extra concent for her boring relationship. I never could get into Matteo much, he was to much of a sloth to me, let everything just happen and while that may be realistic, it's for the viewer pretty boring. I also couldn't get into David much, we knew barely nothing about him for most of the time and then he was absent for like 3 weeks straight. Davenzi also came of as more like best friends to me as an couple in love, they were cuter in s4. Unrelated to the plot or show, but the druck stans that feel super entitled and superior.
What I loved about 🇪🇸: The made subtle changes from the start. Lucas coming out to Eva and not being a snake. Jorge being the softest Jonas and not lying about weed. The girl squad being the closest and cutest with another, as well as the boys and them being a mega squad since s1, way less inner group drama and the friendships in this versions are just super wholesome to me and my favorite girl squad. Also my favorite amira, she wants to adopt everyone and they all care and respect her religion and I have high hopes for her season. Their parties. Also the remake with the most sm content and texts. The only P Chris version that comes nearly close to the og, being sassy, charismatic and having hella sexual chemistry with eva. The fact that also my favorite chris got her own season, that they changed it to a wlw plot that was displayed tastefully and not overly sexualized. The portray of having borderline, being shown how it really is. Lucas having an Youtube channel and how supportive his boys reacted and how tender him and Jorge are, I can't stretched enough how much I love and stan attentive, genuine male friendships without toxic masculinity. Hugo being an absolute sweat heart since his first appearance, not being petty or mad with Cris and just being a true friend. If I could chose I would want a season about Lucas and Amira.
What I disliked: Alejandro looks like 14 to me and I'm not keen on seeing this plot for the 8th time. Viri and Cris clothes a lot of times, Ik they dress like teenagers these days do, but it just looks horrendous to me sry. Them stretching out the story between Cris and Joana so much and breaking them up like 5 times.
What I loved about wtfock 🇧🇪: I just started with season 3 live, because I couldn't get into the characters when the first clips of s1 dropped. I later binged s2 and watched some key clips of s1.
They changed many things for the better. First and foremost Senne, him being supportive of Zoë, a good flat mate and encouraging dad friend. Zoë giving him way more of a hard time and making him work for it. Robbe moving into the flatshare and becoming bff with Zoë. Not breaking up Zoenne and making Senne an important character in s3 as not only Zoës boyfriend. Sander! I love his whole art hoe - e boy brand, his music taste, his clothes, hair, how reckless he is, his blant flirting. Robbe being an absolute baby ™ and clingy af. The Willems chemistry is unmatched in the skam universe. Yasmina is so fucking pretty and intelligent. Rosanders date. Milan being sooo cute and Robbe having confidence in him and them being genuinely friends. I could swoon over the found family in the flatshare 24/7 and wish I could live with them. Robbes dad asking if Sander is a vegetarian. Luca & Noor shading Moyo. Noor having a personality besides being naïve and a beard for the Isak. Robbe caring about his mom.
What I disliked: Senne starting of as the worst William with his bracelets and showing around Ambers nudes. Ambers rudeness in general. The boys talking only about girls and totally ignoring Robbe for 6 weeks straight, especially Jens. Moyos sexist and homophobic comments and behavior. Clips and drama with no explanation or follow ups, brushed off or rushed scenes. The gay bashing and robbes slurs, them turning everything into drama for drama sake. For multiple weeks only clips that were either total drama or happy clips with no normal daily life. Exaggerating the robbe and noor make outs. No Sander the first 2 weeks. The lack of answeres from Sander and questions from Robbe, brushed of with one liners. Barely any texts.
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Hello! So how did you like the minute by minute clip (almost want to say the 4 clips that lead to that talk really)? I personally really like that it took a few days to get to it and that they both mentionned how Eliott does not need constant attention and babysitting and how the people around him need to keep on living their lives. But mostly, it was so good to hear Eliott talk about it and give his POV. To me, they dealt with that so so well. What about you?
Hello back to you, Anon!
Okay, I need to quickly preface this answer with something: traditionally, I go pretty silent after any Minute For Minute clip because it always affects me. I revere it so much, it’s almost a spiritual experience. It always takes my breath away; it is always supremely comforting to watch; and it is also very confronting. It reminds me what I am repressing and forces me to see myself and do what I don’t always let myself do: be kind to myself and my limitations. In other words, like so many of us, Minute For Minute hits too close to home so I can never go too deep with analysis without malfunctioning. (Watch me still somehow write too much though!!)
Okay great! Now to actually answer your question – aside from saying I obviously adored it for the above reasons!
TAKING A FEW DAYS TO GET TO IT: Yes!! I was so impressed with how they took all the key messaging from the og Minutt For Minutt and spread that out across multiple clips and stages. While I do like that in og we start the final episode off with comfort after the trauma of the previous clip (and as a viewer I feel more catharsis seeing Even recovering and safe with Isak than I do seeing a conversation with Lucille away from Eliott’s current condition), I really engaged in a different way with the drawn out representation of different stages of depression.
Depression is such a complex beast and I think it was really powerful to show all the ways it personally affected Eliott. That montage clip we got first was so beautifully edited and the use of slow motion felt extremely fitting for both Lucas (whose days would feel long when his loved one is suffering) and Eliott (whose movement in that headspace is naturally slowed down anyway when he isn’t in an exhausted sleep). Then the irritable Eliott clip was so effective at demonstrating a very common but sometimes overlooked symptom of a depressive mood while also delaying catharsis for us/Lucas to make the comfort of the eventual Minute Par Minute scene all the more cherished. It was a great bridge between Lucas discovering that Eliott needs space and minimal fussing, and the official Minute Par Minute conversation.
It is hard to demonstrate all of those nuances in one clip, so it worked so well spread out. Each element packed a punch and left a deep impression for Lucas and us to think about. For such a complex topic, it was wonderful that so many parts could be explored in some detail.
THE MESSAGE THAT ELIOTT DOESN’T NEED BABYSITTING AND TO KEEP LIVING YOUR LIFE: Oh yes, that was a great message. For anyone with a loved one (or future loved one) in a similar place, the demonstration of that message would be really helpful. It’s awesome that people can get really solid, practical advice that felt authentically woven into the scenes.
ELIOTT HAD A VOICE:This was absolutely my favourite addition to the scene(s)! And I loved it so much, there are subpoints!
- After that awful moment on the barge with Lucille, it felt so important (and gratifying!) for Eliott to have his own voice; for Lucas to hear things from Eliott’s perspective without any manipulation or miscommunication.
- Eliott is his own wealth of knowledge (even if he is still figuring some things out) about bipolar and it is invaluable to be able to learn about it through such a rich source. Mental health is so complex and Eliott was able to give such a vivid snapshot of his reality of bipolar. The og wasn’t able to get into that detail the way Isak’s story was structured, so I find it a real asset of Skam France that they were able to fit that into the final episode without changing the mood too drastically.
- Eliott was so brave for laying everything out and being so open and honest – even if that meant losing Lucas. You could feel a real freedom once it was all out in the open and Lucas accepted him for everything he is. He didn’t have to hide anymore. It was such a lovely parallel to Lucas’ own coming out.
- It acted as a nice re-do of the omissions and sidestepping that led to Eliott unilaterally and mysteriously breaking up with Lucas. It was so cathartic to see Eliott finally lay his cards out with nothing hidden. It allowed Lucas to actually have a say in their relationship and have the chance to make a well-informed choice over whether he could ‘handle’ the complexities of dating Eliott instead of Eliott choosing for him out of preemptive fear.
- But most of all, for me, it was so fantastic to have those curtains lifted from the enigma of Eliott Demaury. In that moment, Eliott truly came to life as an entire person with struggles and insecurities alongside the joyful parts. I mentioned it in another post, I think, but it felt like Eliott was no longer an empty school corridor, or an ominous instagram post, or someone who stood Lucas up – he was a solid presence with weight behind his own context. He gave us his Truth so we could understand him and get close to him.
And that is where so much of the magic comes from for me – I felt so close to Eliott in Minute Par Minute because he finally let Lucas (and us) into his inner sanctum, into his unadulterated self. We saw Eliott. We saw him in the tears of shame and frustration as he explained how bipolar made him feel, and we saw him in the utter joy of being heard and accepted by Lucas. His openness and trust was a real bonding moment. (And that was another nice parallel of something Lucas recently learnt to do too with his friends and flatmates.)
Honestly, because of the time Skam France dedicated to Eliott’s Truth and the bigger picture of his mental illness, I think this episode has become my favourite. And that was before the latest Bus Stop Scene, homg!
Anyway, I have said way too much. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me about such a rich clip(s)!
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