i dont wanna make your post too long by rbing back and forth, but that tiktok sent me into the stratosphere too like if it wasnt felix himself who swept the entire discussion under the rug 😭 you know the quote thats like "hell is full of other people"? my personal hell is filled with those who refuse to recognize felix's flaws and insist hes an angel good guy who's done nothing wrong EVER lmao. im not an expert on farleigh but calling him a villain is insane especially in context of his relationship with felix and ollie respectively

i will talk about this always and forever. and this fandom makes it easy to. every time i say my piece and post it, i'm dragged back to the same discussion over and over cuz people are just... so wrong. i'm pretentious and my ego is a flaming torch. HAHAH.

the tiktok you're referencing (for context; tiktok OP was saying that the "race/class discussion" of saltburn was... bad?? i don't even know. they implied that it was bad because it wasn't overt) is so insane and i'm just gunna go on a brief rampage about why.

this concept that white people have, that discussions of race and racism need to be dramatic, and they need to blow up in your face... it pisses me off. it's living proof that people making this commentary how no idea how racism has evolved and changed into what it is now. saltburn and farleigh, in my opinion, is such a perfect race commentary. because it's not overt. archie once said that his otherness was just present in the room. archie as an actor and farleigh as a character; their otherness was THERE. if anything, i would've made the same inferences if farleigh and felix never had the on-screen conversation (although that conversation is a great foundational piece of evidence). i would see the ways in which farleigh has to compensate, mirror, mask, hide, exceed, etc. the viewers woud've noticed, almost like second nature, that farleigh is black in a white-dominated upper-class environment. whether they choose to recognize that, whether they choose to understand what that means... well, you can already see how that's turning out. race commentary doesn't always have to be dramatic and loud, because modern racism is often so quiet. this is amplified in a family dynamic. the racism in my family is despicably, horrifyingly quiet to everyone but me. it's loud as fuck to me. i'm sure it's loud to farleigh.

it's this sort of idea that real racism is overt, that it can only be validated and discussed through boldness and rudeness. when, in fact, modern racism lingers in the air. to quote the historian thomas holt, “What enables racism to reproduce itself after the historical conditions that initially gave it life have disappeared?” saltburn and the cattons is a brilliant representation of this. the viewer is (or should be) fully aware that aristocratic english wealth has been built by the suffering of others. there was a period in time when english wealth was feeding off of enslavement. but overt racism is no longer normative, it's no longer acceptable. the historical conditions of anti-blackness (slavery, legalized racism and segregation) have disappeared, so how does anti-blackness reproduce itself? the answer is, you can see it within the movie.

Personally the only blogs I'm seeing get shit for it are the ones that are being disrespectful with the post (not saying anyone has not gotten sent stuff for reblogging it on a more accidental level just that I haven't seen it).

Quite a few people who've reblogged it think it's okay to post it simply because they showed up to the race in the first place, and think that it's okay for them to post it because for them personally it isn't a moral issue to do so, or they... "Don't want to succumb to peer pressure" and a few other things too.

It's overall just a really fucked up situation. Being in public doesn't mean that you consent to being posted on social media. The original clip is one thing, it was a live clip and Ted got shocked, but they did end up editing it for the reupload. Lots of people had the ability to see it was edited, and have been long time fans of Seb, and have been told that their family likes to keep private life stuff private, but continue to keep it up just because they can or want to. It really does show the lack of respect that some people have for the drivers they like.

no yeah it's gross as fuck to pretend it isn't a big deal, or that they consented by being in public. they're literal children, they're there to see their father for the last few races of his career. their father, who has not consented to videos n pics of them being aired or posted online. that absolutely should be respected. if anyone is out here acting like "oh they shouldn't have gone if they didn't want to be seen" like come on have some respect. that's their dad he is retiring soon!! he deserves to have his family there without having to worry about this shit.

(i made the og post because a couple of my mutuals were getting anon hate for rbing it even though they deleted it the moment they realized seb didn't want it online. i myself only came across it once but scrolled past the second i realized it's seb's kids. i didn't see them, and i can't remember who reblogged it. i do know they took it down, though.)

bottom line is, you can love your fav driver without invading the privacy of his family. it absolutely IS a big deal, it's what he wants for his kids and he has every right to it. why are some blogs so insistent on their right to have a video clip of someone else's kids? that's weird. fuckin respect that he doesn't want this.