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dekupalace · 1 day

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hi isatheads. is this anything

#i spent way too much time on this instead of writing the new chap of my fic thats been nearly done for the last two nights lol #isat spoilers #isat act 3 spoilers #isat act 4 spoilers #isat act 5 spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers #wow thats a lot of spoilers. too bad i aint readin all of em /ref #in stars and time #busy.🐝

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dailyloopdeloop · 1 day

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DAY 36: it's only you

#codacheetah #isat #loop isat #twohat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #sasasap #AUGH IM SO CLOSE TO DEADLINE. I FORGOR ALL DAY #UM ANYWAYS #listen i know this quote is overused as fuck. BUT ITS A GOOD ASS QUOTE.#ty alice so so so much for saving my ass i had no ideas today #we have been radiating the undertale mind virus together. thank you mr fox. for making good quotes.#anyways i know its how reflections work but seeing siffrin with the eyepath on the other eye is perverse

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lucabyte · 3 days

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i am looking at nohats au 👀 please share more

So! NoHats! I'm going to grab you and use this to ramble. A Lot.

The NoHats AU is @samhainian's it's just that I'm the strange little freak who takes the words said unto me and executes on them. But I can still do a little explainer on what our overall thoughts and vibes are. (And, that we are in fact propping up a little box with some cheese under it here. 🪤 Please (PLEASE) feel free to pick up what we're putting down.)

We're far from the only ones exploring a "what if siffrin fucking died" AU, though the main difference with NoHats is the placement of the death in the timeline. Instead of being 'Mal Du Pays Wins' or 'Act 6 encounter goes horribly wrong', the death is… Just after the (literal) falling action.

(This placement is because Sam is a comic book fan who thus has become used to characters being ripped away at the cruelest times by shitty writers. THANK FUCKING GOD adrienne is not that and isat is delightful yippieee, but, back on topic.)

Giving the party the full understanding of What Happened that you get by putting the death after black hole siffrin, but before the A6 encounter leaves an interesting gap to be filled. See, making Siffrin's death very much not Loop's fault means that… this once again reads (when not read as simply a tragedy...) as the universe doing what it sees fit to fulfull Loop's wish… Thus making Siffrin's death Loop's fault again, but only in their eyes. And only in a way they could express if they were honest about who they were…

And this is where having had excuse to waffle about my general Postcanon Loop thoughts the other day comes in handy, because Sam and I have that as our canon-compliant reading to begin with, NoHats plays off of a lot of the same readings of Loop's character. Namely: Uh Oh Somebody's Lying By Fucking Omission Again. (BECAUSE TO BE FAIR THIS TIME… HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT?)

Now, neither Sam nor I are fanfic writers, so this has been a little bit trapped in our heads and DMs (and my unfinished art but,)

But our thoughts on how NoHats like… Goes.

Siffrin's death is peaceful, but that does not mean the aftermath of it is. I can't imagine the party takes it well, especially after understanding the circumstances of the Loops. (And, of note, in A5 where nobody had the discussion on what to do with each other's bodies should something happen…) But I'd imagine it traumabonds them somewhat (understatement of the century) and now knowing how the rest of the party feels, they resolve to travel together for the forseeable future.

The party track down Loop to deliver the terrible news, since they were clearly Siffrin's friend too, and invite Loop along to travel at least long enough to (let them grieve) get the burial over with. Loop, here, can be helpful in knowing what Siffrin would've wanted where the party would be at a loss. Loop, I think, takes a bit of a lead on the funerary aspects of it all, because, um. (Performing rites on your own body, huh?)

Then, as things are after a death, life just… Kind of has to continue on as normal. The party travel, pick up Nille, and get to know Loop as this mysterious new person. Maybe in this situation they might stay in Bambouche for a while to give Bonnie more stability since. They are probably taking it the worst. It would've come out of absolutely nowhere for everyone in the party obviously but god, for a kid? For A Kid?

It should be stated NoHats is not intended to be grimdark, just y'know. An exploration of grief. This is also why it's got a bit of a lopsided focus on Bonnie vs the rest of the party because hhrrhghghhghghhhghhghhh <- incoherent

Now, a crossroads.

How does the party discover Loop to be Siffrin? How long does it take. How much have the party embraced them as part of the family (especially with something as intense to bond over as this)?

There's the Odile option. Have her put it together and have to bring it up somehow. This could also be done by Isabeau, perhaps. He's smart. (which. God. If anything's the real Isabeau Torment Nexus it's this)

Then there's the other option batted around by Sam and I. The: The Universe Dislikes Duplicates option.

The items in the house that fzzt away when inspected. The Universe doesn't like there to be two of something, at least not when they're acknowledged. But one of something is just fine…?

Which is to say. I'm not a personal proponent of 'Loop getting their body back'. EXCEPT …… except this one time.

There's only one Siffrin now, so they don't need to be obfuscated to exist.

Consider, if you will. Loop swallowing their guilt for long enough to be comfortable. Falling back into old habits. Without another Siffrin around to compete for the niche of, they actually begin to act like Siffrin again. Not intentionally, it's just… The party is as welcoming as they've always been. And the party swears they keep catching glimpses of a face under all the light.

Then, one day, while still not fully human again, the resemblence becomes undeniable. Loop having not even noticed until everyone looks at them like they've seen a ghost.

Has it been months? How long have they kept up this lie? Is it even a lie, to them? They're Loop. But they were, once, Siffrin.

Even after explaining it, does that make it better or worse?

Bonnie cuts through the betrayed, struck-nerve reactions with a sobering "I missed you."

… Anyway !

Yeah so that's the vibe for NoHats. As for LoopLoops? That's more nebulous. I think it can go anywhere really in the NoHats timeline. I err personally toward the "Loop continuously replays the last 10 minutes before Siffrin's death almost immediately after they find out and have to parkour their ass up the House in the most distressing situation possible to try and get them to hold on, just please hold on." (Remember! Siffrin can remember the contents of Loop's loop backs in the A6 fight!)

But there is the possibility that this happens months, or worse years down the road. One last Loop back. Throw it all away for the chance to just get that one thing you didn't know you even wanted but now know you NEED.

Misc:

Okay miscellaneous time.

This is where I admit that I have a bunch of unfinished NoHats art that I haven't gotten around to yet because I feel like a right tool being so obviously Loop-Centric with my fancontent (I AM . . I REALISE I AM NOT DOING MUCH TO BEAT THE ALLEGATIONS.) So like if people want to see that please say because euaghghghhfh <- the nervous.

this is like the most fucked up place to do isaloop fr. anyway.

one of Sam's mid-game observations that I'm just going to share for no particular reason is that Bonnie's hair shares a bunch of shapes with Siffrin's. The flick up at the top, the 3 pronged shape of the fringe… just something to think about.

Without 2 Siffrins around to compare each other to it'd likely be a lot harder to notice Loop's similarities. Doesn't mean that those similarities don't sting more in this context though.

If you do NoHats without LoopLoops. The concept of this all fading into memory years down the line while they just have slightly-glowy but otherwise regular Siffrin hanging out is fucked up to think about. Just like real grief. Augh

6. a peek into the original dms as a treat from us

#LONG POST....!#be free our ideas. go forth into the wild. and by that i mean neither of us are fic writers so please HUNT US FOR SPORT #isat spoilers #looploops au #nohats au #isat au #isat loop #isat act 6 spoilers #not giving it more tags than that since feels rude to tag the rest of the party lol #lucabytetalks #but yes! to be extra clear: nohats is a 'please play in the space' invitation. because neither of us are big fanwork people! um!#it feels a little bit neglectful of us to not make more stuff for this AU ourselves but... we aren't practiced at that kind of thing. so.#open invitation! we know we won't make anything MASSIVE with this so.. don't hold your breath. and feel free to take the reigns.#we aren't like. the arbiters of 'sif fuckin dies' aus in general obviously but if you want to play with our specific ideas please do!#think of this post like prompts if you want to. go nuts #and @ a certain someone who said in the tags theyd maybe write something inspired. kisses you so sweetly. thank u for even considering it #also hi kaun i was thinking about your little snippet when typing 'act 6 encounter goes horribly wrong' 👋

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marstheluminary · 25 days

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two sides of the same coin

#isat spoilers #in stars and time spoilers #isat act 5 spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #in stars and time #in stars and time siffrin #siffrin isat #in stars and time loop #loop isat #YAYAYAYA these sprites are not as good of parallels as i thought but i had already committed #art tag

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artilite · 20 days

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the sloops got me. they got me bad

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mushrooms-and-blooms · 2 months

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PRECIOUS!!!! THEM!!!! LOVE THEM!!!!

#mira loves sharing her knowledge. I think she would have a better teaching experience one on one with odile #do they have fishing reels in this world?? shrugs #not really satisfied with how I draw loops head but for now itll do #isat #in stars and time #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #siffrin #isat siffrin #isat loop #isat mirabelle #isat odile #isat bonnie #isat isabeau

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bogkeep · 4 months

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bitter medicine

[character is from in stars and time]

#in stars and time #siffrin #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #art #digital art #fanart #me: oh yeah i can draw this on the very long car ride #also me: WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO DRAW ALL THESE STRAIGHT LINES IN A SHAKING MOVING CAR #loop isat

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codacheetah · 2 months

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GET FUCKED STARDUST

#codacheetah #my art #isat #in stars and time #isat loop #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #two hat spoilers #thank you to brin bibliomaniac for the suggestion #this is a redraw and not an edit so if it looks dubious. well that's why

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meamiiikiii · 11 days

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worn and cherished all the same

#isat #in stars and time #isat loop #isat siffrin #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers #even if old and worn and theres a newer and better version #even if it is not like before #even if the old memories are gone but new ones are here to take their place #loved and cherished all the same #those are the vibes i was hoping to convey #or at the very least #some form of sentimentality #yea

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basilpaste · 3 months

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hey man. have i ever. have i ever talked about how often i think about isabeau recognizing loop from their eyes.

'yes basil.' you tell me. 'youve actually written about it like five times now.'

anyways heres another.

#in stars and time #in stars and time spoilers #isat #isat spoilers #isat fanart #in stars and time fanart #loop isat #siffrin isat #isat act 6 spoilers #isaloops au #BECAUSE THIS IS. THIS IS ISALOOPS STUFF IT IS A LINE DIRECTLY FROM ONE OF THE THINGS IVE WRITTEN AND POSTED #ITS JUST. its not very obvious.#but hrgfgghgh..... URGHGHGH...#rotating them in my mind. them and sif both. together and separate. always always always #basil paints #anyways its like midnight i should NOT be posting rn but shhhhhh #of stitches in sequence

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this-is-specifically-for-art · 9 days

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Two sides of the same coiYOU MOTHERFUCKER I GET IT NOW !!! GUH

#art #clue art tag #fanart #my art #isat #in stars and time #in stars and time loop #in stars and time siffrin #two hat spoilers #isat act 5 spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers #isat fanart #isat siffrin #isat spoilers #isat loop

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dailyloopdeloop · 2 days

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DAY 35: making up for lost time

#codacheetah #isat #loop isat #isabeau isat #isaloop #twohat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #guh. i dont know why this is the third loop dancing thing ive drawn #im addicted to making this creature schmoove it #but anyways. *thinks about the sasasap artbook* *thinks about the sasasap artbook* *thinks about the sasasap artbook* *thinks about the

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lucabyte · 6 days

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i feel like people are sleeping on the occam's razor situation of how buckwild it is to outright accuse a guy of being a clone of your friend even if you DO have a lot of circumstantial evidence. there's other options is what im saying. they could just be like. a guy. that's a sensible deduction. you should explore that deduction. ignore my shirt that reads I <3 RED HERRINGS.

i still think odile has the correct theory on lock but she's smart enough to know it needs like... a real smoking gun to be able to bring it up without sounding insane.

anyway. (mirabelle voice) i know its rude to speculate but has anyone else noticed the grieving? they seem to be grieving. does anyone have any thoughts on the grieving? i have some thoughts on the grieving.

#[isabeau voice] am i insane or does sometimes loop talk like they might have killed their whole family. is that just me? just checking.#nille design highly inspired by @kiwibrain's since its the one that imprinted in my mind. liberties taken since i didnt look @ reference #anyway i have a lot more thoughts on this? i guess ill hide them in the tags...? scroll down i suppose.#isat #in stars and time #isat spoilers #in stars and time spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #isat loop #isat siffrin #isat bonnie #isat nille #isat fanart #in stars and time fanart #doodlebyte #----------------------------------------------------------------------#anyway the extra thoughts. are literally just my general thoughts on postcanon. (and thus are the context for all of my postcanon doodles!)#which is i think nille joins the party before loop reappears for a start (either from a period of nonexistence or just wandering around)#and that like. i think the party should be able to integrate loop as a completely new person. because they are! the secrecy isn't great but #They and Siffrin shuffle into different ecological niches in the party (eg. i think sif is more squeamish after it all but loop isnt)#and while it's not *exactly* what Loop wanted they get that beggars can't be choosers. and its pretty good #(i am glossing over how i think loop's reappearence drags both them and siffrin into a massive behavioural backslide and is likely a bit #distressing to watch go down. cycle of argument -> lovebombing -> normalcy -> repeat. etc etc. but since they are no longer literally #stewing in the worst pressure cooker of all time they do resolve it via productive conversation on their own time. its fine)#the party well-meaningly tries to deduce things from loop's vagueries and are able to pin down the DEAD FAMILY vibe pretty quickly.#but eventually the question of their prior identity falls by the wayside because well! they're just their friend loop! (also change belief)#as for how The Truth Come Out... this is what i mean by The Isabeau Torment Nexus(tm). which is that i think... isiloop should almost occur #BEFORE isabeau knows who loop is. he's just genuinely charmed by them eventually and tries to close the open end of the polycule #which FREAKS LOOP THE FUCK OUT because thats just too genuinely sick and wrong. and obviously w emotions high its not a great confrontation #ANYWAY told u i had more thoughts. if i were normal itd be a text post but.

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the-bitter-ocean · 2 months

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( ACT 6 SECRET ENCOUNTER/ 2HATS SPOILERS) So I decided to redraw my designs I made a while back but in a more human form for fun. Thank you to @wonder-of-the-stars for designing the Rewind/ Riri human design !!!

#in stars and time spoilers #isat spoilers #in stars and time #in stars and time game #in stars and time fanart #isat fanart #isat au #in cycles and cessation #icac isat au #isat timeloop au #isat act 6 spoilers #isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers #isat 2Hats spoilers #the bitter ocean arts #digital sketch #digital doodle #digital drawing #digital art

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sqirtle · 1 month

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BEWARE TWOHATS SPOILERS !!

song is girasol by nasa histoires !! :}

youtube link btw

#isat #isat fanart #in stars and time #isat loop #isat siffrin #isat odile #isat mirabelle #isat bonnie #isat spoilers #isat twohats spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers #sqirtle.art #in stars and time fanart #animation #fan animation

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mushrooms-and-blooms · 2 months

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their body (your body)

inspired by a line from And if I were not myself, would this be easier? by rabbit_soup @pmpknsoup. doesnt really have anything to do with the fic, but they way they phrased this (especially in the context of the scene) really stuck with me. as has the rest of the fic, really, its very very good

#two hats............ two hats #Ive also had the line “like a body my same size” in my head on repeat #but that art is about parasitism and god and such which doesnt really feel like a good comparison #if anyone recognizes this fic and knows if rabbit soup has a tumblr Id love to ping them properly #isat #in stars and time #siffrin #isat siffrin #isat loop #two hats #isat spoilers #isat act 6 spoilers

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