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versegm · 1 year

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What is Fate/Stay Night?

Fate/Stay Night is a visual novel that came out in 2004. It features three routes: Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, and Heaven's Feel. It is also the first installment of the Fate serie.

If you are familiar with that serie (and if you follow me I think I can safely bet you do,) it's the one game all the other games keep referencing.

If you are not familiar with that serie, it's the game this blonde anime chick you can see everywhere since 2005 is from.

Oooh nifty. What's it about?

The story follows SHIROU EMIYA, a perfectly ordinary teenager with small magic abilities, as he gets dragged in a mage battle royale where the winner gets to fulfill one of their wish. During that battle royale, mages are aided by Heroic Spirits, aka historical and/or mythological figures as summons to fight. As you can imagine, the question of what makes a hero? is a major one in the story, along with What makes a villain? What makes a victim? How does one uphold their ideals?

Cool. Should I play it?

Well that depends on what you're looking for in a story, but if you enjoy strong thematic writing, balls to the wall concepts, and commitment to any worldbuilding implications (be they really silly or deeply horrifying) then yeah you should def go for it! Also, as a visual novel, it is extremely well-made and it fucks with the medium in ways I have rarely seen before.

I'm already familiar with other Fate games and I know the tl;dr of the plot. Do I really need to play it?

Yeah you should!! As I said in the intro, every Fate entry out there references fsn in some way, be in directly by making references to plot elements, or indirectly by echoing and building on its themes. Trust me no amount of knowing what would happen could have prepared me from actually reading it.

Isn't it a porn game?

The original is an eroge, yes, so it did contain sex scenes. The remake, Fate/Stay Night: Realta Nua, replaced the sex scenes with sfw ones. I can give you my personal opinion on which version of these scenes is best if you need me but really it's up to you as to which one you'd rather read.

I tried playing the game a while back but I thought the protag was a cunt.

Yeah I getcha the first route is a bit clumsy by today's standards and it's easy to read the protagonist as a bitchy chauvinist at first. Still he gets better (and in fact never acts even remotely like that in the other routes) so I would ask you to grind your teeth and keep going.

"The first route"? Is there an order to the routes?

There is! In the original game you had to go Fate route -> UBW route -> HF route. Iirc you can play them in any order in the remake, but I strongly advise you to play these routes in this order regardless, because they were very much built with the assumption that this is the way you'd experience things. (A very basic exemple is that the Fate route has a lot more explanations on the worldbuilding and the rules of the battle royales, while the other routes assume you already know this shit and ellipses it up.)

Ohhh. Ok I'm kinda interested. Where can I play it?

Well funny story! This game is like, the ONE fate game that never got any official release in the West whatsoever! So you're gonna have to go with fantranslations. You can play the sfw remake over here, or you can download the og eroge over there.

I'm gonna be real with you bestie I am not committing to a 70 hours-long vn when I don't even know if I'll like it.

Understandable! Perhaps you'd be interested in the anime adaptation of one of the routes then? I'm told the Unlimited Blade Works anime is a good introduction to the Fate serie, its vibes, and therefore whether it might be your thing or not. That being said disclaimer that I have not watched it (<- not an anime watcher) so I can't personally back it up.

Hey why are there like twenty versions of that blonde anime chick

That would require me to make a separate 2k long post king.

Anyways.

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Even if it probably won't be in your overhaul, I still want to say that I really like the color coding you did in that image you made of the miracle box with just the og seven. I just like how you used the colors of the rainbow for them.

Pink - Butterfly (which for some reason, just feels fitting for it)

Red - Ladybug

Orange - Fox

Yellow - Bee

Green - Turtle (glad that was kept; green just fits it better)

Blue - Peacock

Purple - Cat (which, for some reason, just feels better for the cat, especially your version of the cat as often give it shadow powers)

Yeah I love rainbows and color wheels. If I can keep having nice color wheels going, I'm going to be happy. It's just an internal must.

And yeah, if the OG 7 got to be a full rainbow together, then the colors really work.

Nooroo just toes that line between pink and purple, but I could see going for pink more. It's a color heavily tied to love, which by extension work off making connections with others, being kind, empathetic, and compassionate (which is why this Miraculous should really go to a true social butterfly and could be why Gabriel struggles so much with it).

With Plagg, he does look purple at times, having purple fur as highlights.

And purple is often tied to mystery, power, leadership, imagination, creativity, and mysticism; all of which works well with cats.

So the Og 7 could work nice as a color wheel and rainbow.

The big drawback though is that, when all seen together, visually, it's hard to see how Ladybug and Cat are direct counterparts to each other. For to be counterparts, usually you're direct opposites, especially when on a wheel or something similar.

Working off these colors for the Og 7, there's no way to visually convey LB and Cat are counterparts as they just don't line up.

Working off the Prodigious circle of 7 and the Miracle Box itself, visually you would think Ladybug's direct counterpart would be Peafowl or Turtle. Which, makes sense as red often clashes with green or blue. And if you were looking at these two examples and you were told that Ladybug's counterpart is actually the Cat, you'd scratch your head cause they just don't line up.

And there are a few options on what could be done.

If Og 7 have to stay together and doing these colors for them, I could dismiss the canon fact that Ladybug and Cat are counterparts. One of them could be made to be the neutral 7th or they pair up with different Miraculous, and they both are just active as they're the best answer for Butterlfy.

If keeping them as counterparts, I could move Cat to green, move Turtle elsewhere, though I'd have to figure out who'd be the replacement and what color to bring in (pink, purple, indigo/violet, cyan, chartreuse). This potentially also could extend into a debate of whether Fox, Bee, and Peafowl should truly be here too as canon didn't really establish why these 7 are in a group together. All we got is really the promotion of the 7 together and that's not entirely enough.

It's even more so a forethought in my mind as I am going to have 5 groups of 7 each. And I'll have to figure out what are the reasons for these specific seven animals to be together in Group 1, why shouldn't any specific animal be in Group 2 or 3 or 5 instead?

That also has to wait until I can figure out what the 5 groups are based on as that would help decide what goes where, which unfortunately there's not a lot of 5 themes to work off of.

I'm probably overthinking a lot of it, but it's apart of the lore building and the Miraculous system of control, why certain ones have an edge over others.

#ask Punchie #miraculous changes #the struggles of trying to work with 35 #I did also try and think of 7 groups of 5 #but that's a lot of groups #it may come down to looking into slimming the numbers down #cause I do have to wonder if a lot of them truly need to exist #which sucks as I did a series of polls about this #I didn't think everything would be approved though

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ghoooooooooooooooost · 1 year

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i had to reread n edit this before posting like i was going over an essay jesus christ ((tristamp spoilers))

tldr; i was honestly disappointed but i still don't think it was completely awful + i hope if they do a 2nd season it's better *wants to see milly*.... fuck the director though

EDIT!!! 2nd season was confirmed so you can ignore the points where i question if it will happen lol

EDIT 2 actually idt i'll watch the 2nd season... for reasons that just hit me so.... + fuck night*w as well

most of this was written before the finale eek

the major problems were that the pacing was soooooo weird n some of the changes (both story wise and design wise) they made were questionable esp towards the latter half

my positive points:

i do still think individual eps at the first half were really good

i loved the animation + how they used colors

the backgrounds are cool

the artstyle shift in wolfwood's flashback was cool

i've always been "ok" abt vashwood honestly (sorry) but i will acknowledge they were very yaoiful here. i saw a person who didn't ship vashwood say the ep in tristamp where they literally just met made them ship it which was really funny bc how did that change your mind so fast

i'm ngl the milly + eriks name drops made me *JAWDROP* but that's something that only matters to ppl who watched/read the ogs first

my negative points (uh oh):

white washed wolfwood (+ his skintone is soo inconsistent in merch)

they gave vash no room to breathe n he doesn't get big sillay moments after ep 3

^ this is true for every character except i guess roberto? more on roberto later

^^^ goes with the previous too points but it felt like they were way too focused on the drama n sadness without enough (long lasting) happy or hopeful moments to contrast or balance it out overall - to the point were the characterization of our main cast suffered for it bc there wasn't enough there with them to make that properly work. and THEN the silly moments ended up suffering too bc they start feeling out of place. the drama beats kept happening one after the other at breakneck speed without breaks, messing up the pacing as well (i can kinda blame this at least partially on the fact they only had 12 eps when the og was 26 eps but i've watched plenty of 12 ep series with great pacing so i don't really know what happened here?)

i disagreed with this at first, but the lore with vash being front-loaded really did hurt the story a bit in the long run. obviously they did still spread the full details out over the course of the show but it was :\

specific to "the running man"- it's my fav ep tbh but it was strange how all the townsfolk were partying w the nebraskas with no indication they'd arrest them after they did so much damage n vash didn't even get to fix the damaged plant?? so why were they so joyous when the initial problem wasn't solved?

roberto.... was such a weird character... he managed to be both a dick n a guy w no personality, he was there to give exposition + attempt to be funny? n then die. also the marketing staff fucking hates him he's never in any merch wtf ((edited after the finale: well now we know he wasn't meant to replace milly (i had a whole paragraph complaining abt that lol) + now i feel like they added him just to kill someone other than wolfwood off))

i can't speak much on elendria bc i had so much trouble reading trimax forever ago that i never retained anything abt her other than she's trans, but everything involving her in tristamp felt strange/ like it didn't work. i have essentially same feeling about livio here. they threw legato to the side??

what the fuck was the thing with the plants towards the end. it just hit me what the hell

minor nitpicks:

i miss the old anime's ost :( tristamp's ost isn't bad by any means n there are tracks that i really like it's just idk man. especially with the the op song, i couldn't get myself to not skip the op SORRY. could you imagine how hype it would've been if a new rendition of H.T. or NO-BEAT started playing

i'm fine with stamp vash's design (blasphemous i know) but man would'n've one of his og coat designs worked well in 3d? i feel like it would've ((added after the finale: the new coat did look nice in black + they brought back his old hair in the last ep tho so. MAYBE... IN SEASON 2.... CLASSIC COAT....? *delusional*))

NO LOVE & PEACE?!?!?!?!

one of my nitpick points was that they technically didn't give vash the black hair bc i really wanna see it animated one day but assuming they are teasing a season 2 maybe they will eventually. but then how...?

#maybe my standards are too low after getting burnt by higurashi gou/sotsu idk #this post is long as hell also watch out #new vash thoughts #- da last one(?)

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baekhvuns · 2 years

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Answering you early, cause I'll be gone later and miss OT8 anniversary live </3

Ateez puppy or kitten interview when, because I need this but in person

It's not easy being and Exo-l 😭 one of my besties is an OG fan and she's in the state of suffering mdudushyshdgjshs but I remember when Minho, Onew and Key were gone some antis said Shinee won't be back and they're gonna disband I- 🙃🙃🙃🙃 I'm so confused because I saw this I know, not valid info, but there's no official discharge date info I think... if he's back next month I'll eat my walls ❤

Just like Armys suddenly caring about military because their faves are going (some literally admitted to only caring about BTS - imagine telling on yourself like that wow) whereas there are 18 year old boys in the military being absolutely ruined mentally and physically. Also if someone isn't fit for the active service why send them away to be social workers, please it makes no sense 😭 Though I think for people like Donghun and Sehyoon from A.C.E it must be a nice break (they're both during social work due to their mental health issues and my boy Donghun is so active on Insta, I was dramatic at first but for no reason lmao his enjoying his life)

Uh why did that Armchair invent a scenario and got heated over it 🤨

Me too, I gave up on Choi San... Itaewon class haircut you're right 😭 speaking of pink I miss pink San too

Imagine being someone like me who likes to collect paper and buys their magazines, rip. Now the maknae got his first solo cover I'm so happy. So Ateez solo covers WHEN

I like this channel their vids are funny and relaxing. Also them because they make so many different toasts and as a toastie stan I need more ideas that are easy to veganise. And my friend from Hong Kong who always sends me new vegan products because damn HK is killing it with their vegan meat replacements, sent me this guy's cooking book. I wish my food looked so aesthetically pleasing

That dragon plot is like every cat boy story I saw ksydishshskdsbdggs except having a cat is normal, a dragon??? Not so much

I applaud you for starting so many fics and still managing to finish some of them. Take your time, but I know Yunho's Hotcheeks are thirsty 😅 and I'm so sorry why do some of you here hate happiness, please smile a little, life is painful enough don't write sad endings 😭 put angst in the story, but spare us with the final part...

I did not expect THAT photo of San I thought you were gonna send something disrespectful 🙈

Right, Jongho is actually good, but ngl I miss his early dancing days, now he needs to belt so he doesn't always go as hard or is just standing on the side, but I think many people don't see him as a good enough dancer which is a shame. Yeosang's footwork too, he's very precise something not many people notice as well!

Remember the -core quiz where I got cryptidcore... the description said I'm in love with the Mothman 👀 so "soulmates - okay socially anxious introvert, how's the extreme desire to find the love of your life without having to put in effort? (writing this as if im not the exact same)" I'm sorry but that's not me at all, let me retake it lol. I changed 3 answers and got forbidden love, slightly better hahaha

I'm wheezing

Hey uhm what the fuck is going on here and here

I love him but I hate him 🤧🥺 he wants everyone to be delulu af, maybe he's the biggest delulu after all, or the biggest tease 🙄 - DV 💖

hi hello!!

Answering you early, cause I'll be gone later and miss OT8 anniversary live </3

i completely missed it <3

Ateez puppy or kitten interview when, because I need this but in person

EXACTLY I NEED HWA TO CRADLE THE DOG RIGHT NOW !!!! i just know mingi would adopt one

LMFAOOOO SUFFERING 24/7 😭😭😭 RUMORS OF A OT9 CB 😭😭🤚🏼🤚🏼 no omg they be spreading rumours about disbandment every 2 secs but if u do the same to their faves it was war 🔫🔫 FBWMDHWK EAT UR WALLS FJKQJDKWNDKQ

no bc why they shaming those who already went to military 😭😭😭 what difference is that gonna make 😭😭 NAURR UR SO RIGHT ABOUT THAT 18YO ONES i have a few friends around my age going to enlistment and theyre all scared shitless bc it’s so brutal😭😭🤚🏼 but also considering sk’s history it is important for them to go bc they can be at w@r and they need ppl trained on hand,, THE SOCIAL WORKER ENLISTMENT BEING LONGER THAN THE REGULAR ONE JUST GRRRRRRR

Uh why did that Armchair invent a scenario and got heated over it 🤨

EXACTLY 😭😭😭 it’s so embarrassing pls just have a deep breathe and relax pls 😭🤚🏼

Me too, I gave up on Choi San... Itaewon class haircut you're right 😭 speaking of pink I miss pink San too

DBWNDJWK HE LOOKED CUTE WITH IT BUT THE ITAEWON HAIRCUT DID NOT SUIT HIM MF WAS DEBUTING PRE-MILITARY 😭😭😭

Imagine being someone like me who likes to collect paper and buys their magazines, rip. Now the maknae got his first solo cover I'm so happy. So Ateez solo covers WHEN

JDHSK EXACTLY WHEN !!!!! need to see more of hwa being a whore in magazines bc this one was absolutely insane and we need more,, need them to do something like these

yunho in this id die

omg im about to binge thru these right now gtfo,,, STOP THE TOASTS LOOK SO DELICIOUSO 😮‍💨😮‍💨 yooo??? really?? i know a lot of places use soya as a meat replacer and istg it be tasting just like the real deal 🤚🏼🤚🏼 i watch and! the try guys without a recipe thing,, no like its crazy how pretty their food looks but whej i try it, it looks like something gordon ramsay would disgrace me for

That dragon plot is like every cat boy story I saw ksydishshskdsbdggs except having a cat is normal, a dragon??? Not so much

NO BC ITS INTERESTING AS HELL I WILL PUT THIS IN MY MIND BC THATS A ROMCOM I WANNA SEE

😭😭😭 I CANT SEEM TO FINISH ANY FIC THATS NOT SEONGHWAS FBWNDWJ LMFAOOOO BESTIE THE SECOND HALF OF UR MESSAGE MADE ME LAUGH SO MUCH I WAS AT A PARTY AND IT WAS QUIET AND THEN I LAUGHED DURING IT 😭😭😭🤚🏼 “why do some of u hate happiness” BFMQBDWK <3 I MAY HAVE TO WRITE ONE FOR YUNHOS!

I did not expect THAT photo of San I thought you were gonna send something disrespectful 🙈

LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭 HES SO FUNNY FVNWHDKW I KEEP CRYING LAUGHING OVER HIS CHILDHOOD PHOTOS 😭😭 THIS MAN LOOKS LIKE A PROFESSOR 😭😭

he’s that one meme where everyone’s dancing and that one member is standing still belting out f sharps 😭😭 TRUE !!! TRUE !!!! many just see him as a vocalist but this man dances so well PLS DHKWHD YEOSANG’s FOOTWORK IS INSANE makes him so much more hotter!

OH?? ARE U PERHAPS CONFESSING UR LOVE FOR ME FJWKFKWK SOULMATES ONE KINDA MATCHES NGL! 👁👁 oh forbidden love?? bodyguard au am i hearing 👀 i got this! BENWBDS

maybe it’s a sign

I'm wheezing /// Hey uhm what the fuck is going on here and here

MUSIC FOR THE PUSSY FBWJDHW PLS ….what’s going on here 🤨

I love him but I hate him 🤧🥺 he wants everyone to be delulu af, maybe he's the biggest delulu after all, or the biggest tease 🙄 - DV 💖

i feel the exact same,, sometimes i don’t even wanna look at this man BC I KNOW ID GO CRAZY 😭😭😭 need to meet this man fr fr one day 😭🤚🏼 HE WANTS EVERYONE TO BE HIS DELULU HES PRACTICED FBDB

😭😭😭😭

???

also???? mr choi???

🙂🙂

also omg purple kiss’s vocals 😮‍💨🤌🏼

oh and a new one!

#✉️ : ask #dv 💖 anon

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