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hwspoland · 2 years

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polhun post ww2 drama

okay so i said i got the like almost 80 year old gossip and here i am to deliver. this centers around the diplomatic bullshittery between poland and hungary initiated by- you guessed it- the ussr. most of the info i got for this gossip talk is from "stosunki polsko-węgierskie w latach 1945-1970" (polish-hungarian relations in 1945-1970) by tadeusz kopyś, so if anyone speaks polish and wants to check it out themself go ahead!! (also if anyone sees any typos pls tell me)

content/trigger warnings: swearing, world war 2 related topics

(I JUST REALIZED THE BOOK IM READING ABOUT IT HAS FUCKING 400+ PAGES HOLY SHIT)

ok so lets start with a bit backstory of how polhun relationship looked like in ww2 from a historical side:

to put it in simplest terms and without all the non-fiction jargon i have to translate to myself: despite being on the opposite sides of the war, hungary helped out polish people immensely; housing, protecting, helping with passport over a 100 thousand people, along with supplying soldiers with ammo and weapons

so yeah keep in mind that hungary helped poland out a fuckton during the war, while on the opposite sides (sic!) and didnt expect much in reperations and shit.

now lets go into a timeline a bit: two important bits of info is that theres first establishing diplomatic relations and then giving an embassy title.

poland established diplomatic relations with countries like yugoslavia, czechoslovakia, bulgaria and romania from around march to august of 1945 (with romania immediately gaining an embassy title!)

poland didnt establish diplomatic relations with hungary until the end of december 1945. and its not until march 1946 until they like Actually established diplomatic relations. and hungary didnt get a polish embassy until almost 10 years later (1954).

so lets compare in months: the first diplomatic relations with any country were first established in march 1945, and bar hungary the latest one was in august same year. meaning not only there was a seven month gap between relations establishment between romania and hungary, it wasnt until a year later since poland started establishing diplomatic relations, that they did so with hungary, their best friend, their brother.

whats also interesting is that there was little to no coverage about hungary in polish press. its all really weird fucking already but wait until we get into the peace conference of paris, then ill tell yall what was actually up.

so the peace conference in paris started on july 29th, 1946 (funfact gdr wouldnt be established until 1949, for anyone curious). hungary was in a tough spot politically, not only as the losing side of the entire war, but also that their whole shtick was (as far as im aware) to get back the land that they lost of the treaty of trianon, so to oversimplify it: its border drama time. they needed all the support they could get, and since most of their neighbours didnt fucking like them, they hoped to get that support from poland. yknow their brother their best friend, that fucker they helped in the war even it could get them fucked over- ya get the gist

hungary: i need you to be on your best behaviour

poland: well, i promised *sideeyes russia*.. other people that id be on my worst behavior, so.. yknow

Not Only Did Poland Offer No Help With The Borders. They Agreed With Czechoslovakia On That Which Wasnt What Hungary Hoped For. They Demanded 20 Fucking Million Dollars Of Reparations. From Hungary.

Let That Sink In.

And you know on what basis? on apparent damages and aggressions that were made by the hungarian army.

as you can probably tell, everyone was baffled at the fucking audacity. polish claims extremely soured the opinion of hungarian folks about poland, the westies were also against it, and the polish charge d'affaires piotr szymański (who apparently doesnt fucking exist on the internet! fucking weird) had to do an interview where he tried to explain the demand for reparations.

and you know whos fault for all the sketchy shit poalnd did towards hungary?

guess.

yeah, it was moscow. aka the ussr, aka the soviets. as my taxi driver yesterday said, the root of all evil /hj.

first of all, moscow did not want poland and hungary to be close because they were afraid it would ruin 'the bonds of the slavic family' or some other bullshit. if yall have read diamond in the rough or oko za oko (which if you havent you totally should!!) by the the ever lovely chessna2 on here/slovenskych on ao3 it translates beautifully into ivan's fixation on his self made family.

because soviets were already balls deep into the polish government by the time 1945 rolled around, every decision had to be backed up by the soviet approval. and it took them a while until they approved establishing the pol-hun diplomatic relations.

and! the soviets were the ones who pushed the polish diplomats to demand the 20 million dollars! and they knew that it would fuck up the relations. one of the diplomats at the conference in their diary wrote that the soviets wanted to ruin polish-hungarian diplomatic relations, they succeeded.

then there was also a fuckton of arguing and political bickering about the objects moved out of poland that after the war ended up in hungary, one of them being a cooling machine that was crucial to mining coal - aka, an overglorified refrigirator. at some point polish side didnt even want all the objects back because they were in horrible condition, they just wanted the money for them.

obviously all of this didnt destroy the polish-hungarian relations forever because c'mon we're better than that, but it was described as the worst time in the history of the nations' friendship. which in of itself is pretty telling if some petty manipulated arguments were the rockiest patch in their friendship.

tldr; ussr with the grip over poland and slowly tightening grip on hungary tried to sabotage their friendship by making polish ambassadors demand 20 million dollars in reparations from hungary, when not only hungary didnt actively try to do any damage, they helped a fuckton of polish people throughout the entire war. other political shenanigans ensue.

#if only i didnt hate my voice id be such a good fucking content creator yall i love talking #historical hetalia #hetalia #hws hungary #hws poland #aph hungary #aph poland #polhun #*#eb lore #i would honestly tell yall more about the intricacies of the little things they argued about but not only was it frying my brain #the basic gist of it was 'poland: give me my things back and money' 'hungary: why the fuck would you want them in the 1st place'#'poland: cause moscow wants them'

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