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maegalkarven · 7 months

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I just thought of the most hilarious next protagonist of Baldur's Gate saga.

(Note what most of the outcomes used as background info here come from the characters' "good" endings. Proceed with caution.)

A child of Durge and Gortash, killed inside their parent's womb when Durge denied Bhaal, resurrected alongside them by Jergal.

A child any of The Dead Three can lay a claim on because they are:

A child of previous chosen of Bane

A child of Bhaalspawn, a bhaalspawn themselves, albeit striped of that when Bhaal took his essence from Durge, killing them instantly.

DIED before even being born, so clearly Myrkul's subject.

Resurrected by Jergal, so there's ties to that as well.

Can be compelled to follow any of The Dead Three paths, or try to play them and set them against each other, or follow Jergal, or forge their own path.

Essentially a child with no fate.

Can look either as Durge (and be any race Durge presented as) or as Gortash.

The last possibility bringing unique encounters and dialogues and character never knowing they can use being Lord Gortash's child to their advantage or ppl they meet were their father's enemies and they need to dash.

Having ties to different fractions depending on who Durge romanced or if Durge not romanced anyone.

Being raised in Underdark if their parent ended up with Minthara.

Same with unascended Astarion, + lots of acquainted spawns in the Underdark.

Being raised in Hell if their parent went to Avernus with Karlach.

Being raised either in Waterdeep if Gale is their stepfather or with Duke freaking Ravengard as a step- grandfather.

Having ties with Selunites if Shadowheart is a woman they call mother.

Being raised in the nature and having Druids call them their own if Durge and Halsin were involved.

Being raised amongst githianki revolution if Lae'zel was their parent's choice of heart. Having their mother leading a rebellion against a god.

Having lots of unique content regarding that.

Possible companions include:

Arabella

Mol

Yenna

That girl who was kidnapped and eaten by auntie Ethel.

Mayrina's child.

A child of lady Janneth and Oscar.

One or several of Jaheira's grandchildren.

#bg3 #bg3 spoilers #dark urge x gortash #baldurs gate 3 spoilers #baldurs gate 3 #idk i just think it would be funny #imagine being THAT child. Your parents both fucked up tremendously and when your parent and stepparent saved the day #probably killing your father in the process #the dead three either hate your guts or try to make you their new chosen one #jergal is just...there. occasionally giving you advice. you have questions. he never answers them directly #he also never admits he is in fact Jergal #but you just know #you are in the shadow of your heroic parent and their deeds #can be either a hero greater than them or a villain worse than gortash and pre-tadpole durge combined #everyone knows your parents one or another or even the one who was the chosen of bane and died #you can decide what you think about it #imagine dame aylin just appearing one day and you're just like 'oh yeah...she's kind of my aunt? not really but she is.'#also mayrina names her child after durge. imagine traveling with a person named after your parent. awkward #imagine mystra trying to approach gale's child #or shar - shadowheart's #mizora lingers too close to wyll's special lil one and wyll choses violence

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panigamermauser · 9 months

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Cut stuff thoughts part3

Tav vs Dark Urge. Plus Minsc and Orin stuff.

I already ranted how hollow and non-existent Tav feels compared to Dark Urge or Companion Origins playtrough.

Companions and Durge all have deep story ties to main plot. Tav has zero anything. Like, I get the concept of Tav as blank self-insert, but... it's D&D, and any half-decent DM will find a way to include your backstory in the campaign. I know I am spoiled by my amazing DM who has been DMing since 80s. Still, very few DMs will not use their players' backstories against them! And game writers are our DM in this case.

Yes, you can say you are a [Baldurian] on some occasions, but it never amounts to anything in the game.

Your character was gone for a month or so, and suddenly they are clueless about city, and not a single soul knows you?

Amnesiac Shadowheart has some things to say about locations. She has graffiti on the wall to mark her existence in the city. Has a quest.

Astarion comments a lot about locations. Has a quest.

Karlach was gone for 10+ years. People still remember her. And she is tied with the main story.

Gale is not a Baldurian, but he still knows a lot about the city and has exclusive content there.

Jaheira and Minsc has always been part of the city, as they should.

Wyll is Duke's son, with all that it means for the plot.

Hermit druid of Halsin had cut content that tied him to city plot. It was cut, but at least it was planned, you know? And there's still a chance they will put it back in.

Lae, who is a literal fucking alien, has more content the city than Tav who supposedly lived there all their lives and was gone for about a month only.

It was said in act1 that it is about ten days of travel between Grove and Baldur's gate in normal circumstances. So I added all the long rests I had to it. It ended up being barely over a month for me.

So why could not Tav (at least the one who consistently chose Baldurian dialogue options) start with a map with all points of interest already marked, at least? They surely would know every major location and at least some stores instead of 'discovering' them by stumbling there. Why no one knows Bard/Performer Tav? Or Folk Hero Tav? Or Noble Tav? Or even criminal Tavs?

We have several quests both with cops and criminal organizations for Criminal to be mentioned.

There are taverns and a music shop where Bard Tav could have gotten 'hey I heard you perform before'.

Noble Tavs could have gotten 'an honor to serve someone of your family' from vendors in Lower City.

There could be banter for Folk Hero with Gur or Hag victims or even Harpers.

Clerics and Paladins Tavs could be recognized in churches.

Even non-Baldurian/Outlander/Hermit Tav could have some background banter with opinions on being in major city.

And yet the best you can get is a generic inspiration point you share with your companions who already have more content than you?

You can kill every single companion on sight, and the game will still care more about them than Tav. They are/were an objective part of the world even if the PC never talked to them.

Even Durge still existed in the world of Tav. You can find their corpse in Orin's bedroom. so everything in Durge's backstory objectively happened. They existed and mattered!

But if you do not play Tav - there's simply no Tav in game's world. And never were. Tbh at this point I want to make Astarion's, Wyll's and Durge's Guardian to be Wysteria. Just so she could exist in the world and be remembered by game characters. Like, they could see a sexy bard perfown and think 'WOULD' at least once.

But apparently Tav was not meant to exist originally. So it explains it.

I wonder what made them decide to implement castrated Durge character as a separate person. I just want to know why, that's all. It is too late to change it now anyways.

I wish they either committed to Tav and Durge being different people and added proper unique content only Tav will see. Or just not bothered with Tav at all. I hate half-assed approach.

If they wanted to avoid spoilers of Durge being Bhaalspawn during early access... Why? First two games had Bhaalspawn main char. Literally no one would be surprised it's Bhaalspawn again. It's the whole fucking THEME of the series.

Also, the second they said on stream that Durge suffers from severe case of homicidal ideations, literally everyone who knew a single thing about Baldur Gates games said 'and here's our Bhaalspawn'. So what was the point in secrecy?

I just want to know _why_ at this point. Hope writers can explain what they were thinking with making worse Durge as a separate char.

And it would make so much more sense that they planned Minsc to be in Act1 too because of it. Like, imagine Minsc comforting Durge. Being an angel to Butler's demon.

Butler pushes you to commit crimes. Minsc is there going 'Resist! I used to have a friend just like you. It can be done!' That would have been so good!

But ofc it all would be pointless for Tav, who for all gameplay intends and purposes never existed in the world. So I get why they changed it.

And it's a shame. Having Minsc since Act1 would have been wonderful💖

Same goes for Orin's cut content. Imagine her hounding you since act 1. Because she realises she screwed up and her Bhaalsib is still alive.

Also, her vs gith'yanki would have been an amazing story arc overall. Like, Big Bad Three control an illithid elder brain. Which does make gith'yanki their enemies by default.

And it would be even better for players who keep Lae alive (or play gith'Tav!). Like, it would make kidnapping Lae in Act3 so personal! And the amount of psychological torture she could dish out to Lae/gith'Tav by tadpoling the dragon! Would have been so delicious!

Please put this part back in! 🙏

#baldur's gate 3 spoilers #mausertalks #mauser talks cut content

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flowersdaggersviolasandblood · 9 months

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Fame, Riches, and Music

Name: Nalanthar Arabana (He/Him/They/Them)

Race: Drow Half-Elf

Class: Bard (College of Valour)

Background: Entertainer

WARNING, SPOILERS AHEAD!

Taking a break from Pero, let's get into my Bard, Nalanthar Arabana. To recap his whole deal, Nalanthar is a Half-Elf Bard who originated from the Underdark. His past is something he prefers to not talk about, believing it as a story not worth telling. He eventually encountered the surface of Toril and enjoyed the new sights, people, and experiences; inspiring him to become a Bard. Nalanthar enjoys telling and making stories, manipulating situations to make up a favorable outcome that will make a good story.

After crashing the nautiloid ship, recruiting Lae'zel, Astarion, and Wyll to his active party & camp (left Shadowheart at the alter and failed the saves to obtain Gale ;A;), and staying at Emerald Grove; Nalanthar decided he would be interested in finding Halsin, if not for a possible cure, then to make a glorious story about saving the Tiefling refugees from the Druids. Especially since he has the famed Blade of Frontiers at his side, he's even more eager to continue the Baldes' ventures as they desperately look for a cure.

You know the deal by now, save the Tiefling kid from Kagha, met with Nettie, saved another kid from some Harpies, and helped Alfira with her song. Because Nalanthar is a Bard, there was a unique dialogue option after saving the Tiefling kid from the Harpies. Nalanthar also agreed to play Alfira's tutors' lute as he stayed in turn with the fellow struggling Bard. That does mean I didn't get the music video version of the Weeping Dawn, but success regardless. Before leaving the Grove, ran into Shadowheart lmao. As I stated before, I want to experiment how long I can avoid her before the story eventually says "goddamn it, take this secretive little meow meow!" so I avoided her like the plague.

Upon leaving the grove, before I even found the boar Astarion would consume, when I made camp, I almost immediately got his bit scene. Nalanthar, being a curious fellow and intrigued that Astarion can walk in the sunlight without being burned to death, agreed to let him drink his blood and kept him in the Party. Another tall tale to add to the list!

Not too long after this, we met Raphael. Unlike the previous TAVs who outright refused the Cambion, Nalanthar was at least considerate of Raphael's offer, though Nalanthar is hoping it will not come to that.

Of course, Nalanthar also met with Edowin, Andrick, and Brynna, but I accidentally started combat when Nalanthar confirmed that he is one of the individuals that survived the crash lol. Also, love the animation for the Hideous Laughter spell. Also, I am taking full advantage of this hat.

Nalanthar was able to get past the goblins in Blighted Village by flaunting his new found powers, intending to utilize these "power of the Absolute" to the fullest. There's also another reason why Nalanthar is eager to get deep into the Goblin Camp and find the leaders this camp. Not too long ago, the last time I played this character, Nalanthar talked with Sazza and was profiled by her because the goblin thought he was with another Drow that was considered "the boss lady." Nalanthar is curious on who this individual is and hopes to infiltrate them to get a grasp on who this is.

Also, Nalanthar got more of that Githyanki booty ;)

Hoping to add Astarion and Wyll in the mix and maybe Karlach as well

#Baldur's Gate 3 #Baldur's Gate 3 Spoilers #BG3 Spoilers #TAV: Nalanthar Arabana

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