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wavebiders · 10 months

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You mentioned something about fantasy politics and Dragon Age, could you explain what you mean by that? I'm not familiar with Dragon age, Mass effect, of their fandoms?

Basically, when you have a fictional universe that has any level of complexity, you're also going to have fictional politics. Depending on the nature of the conflicts and issues present in this world, there will also be an active discussion surrounding them in the fandom

These discussions can quickly become very heated. Often because of lack of sensitivity from the writers when it comes to where they drew inspiration from, from fans projecting to heavily onto one group, or from lack of nuance and the urge to view everything as a direct mirror for our world. Most commonly it's a mix of all three

Using bioware games, which have an especially fired up fandom about this, as an example: People get very angry at humans being "space racist" in Mass Effect, while overlooking the nuances of the political climate in-universe where humans are very much not the in power group at all. People overidentifying with mages in Dragon Age as an allegory for queer people, and getting personally offended when the story even tries exploring nuance there. Elves also in Dragon Age drawing a little too much inspiration from real-life hardships, which makes for a very unfortunate situation all around, and again can cause a very strong emotional response to story developments and plot twists as the line between real and fiction becomes blurred

World of Warcraft falls into the same icky area as a lot of fantasy at the time of its creation(and even now) in that it borrows from non-white cultures for its monster races. On top of that, so much of its premise comes from retroactively adding nuance to an 80's "evil invading orcs" game. That's not even to mention how, because of its mmorpg nature, so many story decisions are based around gameplay(keeping pvp relevant, giving players for both factions a reason to feel like heroes) rather than having a well thought-out narrative

I don't need to interact with the fandom to know it's a tirefire, and while there are certainly plenty of things worth debating, I'm never gonna have a good time doing that in a reactive fandom environment(I'm more likely to discuss it among friens), and ultimately I'm just here to enjoy a video game and prefer to engage with the story as it is, and focus on the elements of it that bring me joy

#like after dealing with 'mage rights!!!' during my teens #i do not need horde vs alliance discourse #I like em both I think both have sloppy writing at times #i dont have the energy to get Mad Online or listening to other people being Mad Online about it #ask wave

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fated-lab-partners · 4 years

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The Beauty of Entrapdak: Lab Partners in Love!

“Imperfection is beautiful.”

A masterpost full of links to Entrapdak-positive posts!

Masterposts

Cruelfeline's Hordak Bleatings Masterpost

Soranis-Sunshadow’s SPOP Masterpost

Catra and Hordak: The Parallels

A Special SPOP Announcement!

A Loving Relationship

Season 3

S3 Gifs - Entrapdak Moments

HORDAK TRULY CARES ABOUT ENTRAPTA IM SO 🥺😭💞💖💗💖💘💞💕

They’re So Great Together

So She Wants to Be There for Him

S3 Gifs - What’s the Rush?

She’s Not Afraid of Him - He is Not Afraid of Her

They Make Each Other Stronger and Happier

Entrapta’s Neurodivergent Symptoms Are Not Repressed

S3 Gifs - Entrapta on Imperfection

Let’s Talk About: The Love/Friendship Entrapta and Hordak AKA Entrapdak/Hordapta Part 1

His Last 3 lines in the Season are ALL about Entrapta

But One (1) Person Implies Entrapta is Meh and He’s Down To Fite

Tldr Yeah It Was His Intention to Shield Her

She Put Thought and Emotion Into the Crystal

Entrapta Has Never Been Afraid of Him

Let’s Talk About: The Love/Friendship Entrapta and Hordak AKA Entrapdak/Hordapta Part 2

It’s Easier to See that She’s Trustworthy When Someone Trusts Her

And Then He Meets Entrapta

He Takes a Moment to Reflect on Entrapta Before Fleeing With Catra

He Does Need Her!

S3 Screenshots - Hair Touch

I Love Them So Much and I’m Not Even Sure Why

Things That Make Me Emotional

No Reason to Get in a Tizzy

S3 Screenshots - He Showed Her the Stars

S3 Screenshots - Look at Them. They Just Want to be Together

Asking the Crew-Ra About Entrapta and Hordak at the Power Con She-Ra Panel

S3 Screenshots - Neither of Them Is Willing to Activate It Without the Other

I’mma Wrap You Into a Blanket, Make You Soup, Spoon Feed You Like a Baby and the Soup Is Served From Teeny-Weeny Cute Cups

It Hurts So Much

Season 4

S4 Screenshots - Blush!

S4 Gifs - Hordak’s Tears

S4 Screenshots - I Just Need to Point This Out

Please Fix This, S5

Both of These Very Intelligent People Are Fooled by Internal Fear, Insecurity, and, in Entrapta’s Case, Social Difficulties

S4 Screenshots - I Need Her Notes, Her Recordings

S4 Screenshots - His Face

S4 Gifs - Hordak Misses Entrapta

Goth Bat Boyfriend Is Head-Over-Heels for His Gamer Girlfriend Whether He Realizes It or Not

He Definitely Thinks She’s Dead

S4 Screenshots - Hordak's Grief: The Finer Details

Season 5

S5 Screenshots - Hordak/Entrapta Moments!!

I’m So Fucking Proud of Him. Hordak Is Officially Free From Abuse and Cult

S5 Screenshots - Your Imperfections Are Beautiful!

S5 Screenshots - She Loves Him So Much💜

This Is a Love Arc

We Can Tell She’s So Happy to Finally Be With Him Again That She Won’t Let Him Go

A Bit of Thoughts About the Mind Control in She Ra…

S5 Gifs - THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE SEPARATED YOUR HONOUR

S5 Gifs - Did You Not Hear Me Little Brother? Do It Now!

S5 Gifs - So, Are We All Just, Like, Okay With This?

S5 Screenshots - Entrapta?

Let Me Explain How Powerful the Writing for Entrapdak Is

Entrapta and Hordak Parallels: Then and Now Part Two

There Ain’t No “OWO I cAn SaVe HiM~~” Here Bitches, Just Good Old Respect

She Could Have Just Scurried Out of There

You Know Why I Love Entrapdak?

I Need Everyone to Realize That Hordak Actually Told a Successful Lie

They Love Each Other, Your Honor!

Hordak/Entrapta Parallels

Damn Straight He Wouldn't Do That!

Debunking Anti-Arguments

Entrapta

Entrapta’s Age

More Age Discourse & Other Arguments

I’ve Seen the Age Discourse Floating About Again, Though It’s a Bit Different This Time

Entrapta is Not a Child!

Entrapta is an Adult

Entrapta's Autism: The Manipulation Argument (Again)

The Only People Who Think Hordak Has Any Kind of Actual Power Over Entrapta Are People Who Don’t Like Their Dynamic

Hordak Isn’t Using Entrapta

Did Hordak Actually Manipulate Entrapta?

Assertive Entrapta

Screenshots - Entrapta the Innocent. Such Manipulation

“Entrapta Deserves Someone Better for Her Than Hordak”

No One Respected and Valued Entrapta the Way Hordak Did

More Respect

Really Makes Me Think, Again, About the Way the Alliance Only Seems Interested in Entrapta for Her Usefulness

Entrapta Doesn’t Hold Back Around Hordak

Entrapta Did Not Fix Hordak

Entrapta Doesn’t Fear Hordak

Hordak

"Daddy Issues"

Horde Prime Character Analysis (Heavy and Sensitive Topics Ahead) - Long Post

Hordak's Mental/Emotional Age

Antis: Hordak’s Abusive! He’s Done So Many Bad Things!!!!

Wrong Hordak and Hordak - Indoctrination & Support Systems

Can we stop forgetting that Wrong Hordak Wasn’t “Baby” Until Bow Fried Him?

People Don’t Want to See the Horde Clones as Slaves, Because That Makes Some People Uncomfortable

Just a Friendly Reminder That Hordak Did Not Commit Genocide

She-Ra Fandom…Words Have Meaning

Another Example of Genocide

There Was No Scorpion Genocide - Irrefutable Proof

Hordak Is Not a Fascist

Hordak Is Not a Fascist - More Details

SPOP’s Themes

Here’s an Unpopular Opinion!

The Way Hordak Treated Others Doesn’t Ruin His Relationship With Entrapta, Period

Excusing vs. Explaining

Debunking the Medium Article About Hordak

The People Antis Are Actually Attacking

Identifying With Hordak

Why Hordak and All of His Brothers Are Cult Victims Suffering From Religious Trauma Syndrome

Hordak Never Left His Cult

Hordak Is Not Horde Prime

Hordak: The Power-Hungry Warmonger

Catra & Hordak

Why Not Both?

It's Not About Deserving Redemption

I Don’t Understand How People Can Wax Poetic About the Depth and Trauma of Catra’s Abuse, Only to Just Sort of… Brush Off Hordak’s

Catra and Hordak are Parallel Characters

Okay, Antis. If Hordak is Committing Genocide, Then Catra Was Committing 400% Times More Genocide

Hordak and Catra’s Crimes

Entrapdak & Catradora

Catradora - Abuse

Screenshots: Catra’s Abusive Actions

Catra Abused Adora

Yes, Catra Was Abusive

Entrapdak & Catradora - Important Differences

Entrapdak Did Not Overtake Catradora

The Show is Still for You. That Hasn’t Changed

Entrapdak in General

It’s Not Problematic to Ship Entrapdak!

Don’t Take Your Anger out on an Entire Group of Fans Over Their Opinions Concerning Fictional Characters

But Isn't Entr@p/dak Like.... Not a Good Ship...

Noelle Confirmed Entrapdak

Noelle Doesn't Hate Entrapdak

Not All Conflict Is Abuse

Addressing the Same Anti-Arguments - Again

Hordak and Entrapta Are More Than Just Friends

#she ra and the princesses of power #she ra #entrapdak #hordak #entrapta #my posts #masterposts #pinned post

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cruelfeline · 4 years

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The Hordak Bleatings Masterpost

The new and improved Masterpost! All of my ridiculous bleating in one place! Now with categories to allow you, dear friends and neighbors, to better marvel at the utter nonsense I get up to in my spare time. It shall be updated every so often/when I remember.

some of these categories may overlap or perhaps not be perfect; I tried; there was... a lot

Enjoy!

Biological/Medical Musings

A Fairly Comprehensive List of Hordak’s Clinical Signs

I Wrote Too Much About Hordak’s Arms

And Then Someone Asked About His Elbows So Voila

Someone Else Asked About His Eyes

Yes; I Did Measure Hordak’s Ears via Fuzzy Math; You’re Welcome

A Brief Word About Dentition

Some Sad Thoughts About Clone Lifespan

I Like to Headcanon that Clones Have Naturally Different Eye Colors

Counting Hordak’s Ports

Thinking About Terrible Ways Prime Could Institute Biological Control

Doing Very Fuzzy Math And Wondering Just How Young Hordak Could Be

Spending Way Too Much Time Figuring Out Whether Hordak is Left or Right Handed

Why Tiny Food is Probably Ideal for Hordak (a joke ask I essentially took Seriously)

Discussing Hordak’s Temper

Considering Whether Hordak Needs Oxygen

Discussing Whether Prime and his Clones are Genetically Identical

Hordak in Relation to Other Characters

Entrapdak

Hordak Can Get Close to Entrapta Because He Needn’t Fear Her

Discussing Entrapdak Age Discourse

Bit More Regarding Hordak’s Maturity vs. Entrapta’s

Hordak Didn’t Manipulate Entrapta… But Catra Did

Assessing that Unfortunate Moment When Hordak Snapped at Entrapta

Further Assessing Hordak Snapping at Entrapta by Noting When He Doesn’t

On Hordak’s Wardrobe Change

Entrapta Shushing Hordak is One of My Favorite Interactions

The Entrapdak Scene Was Also One of Self-Love

I Really Like How Entrapta Talks to Hordak About Failure

Hordak Tells an Actual Lie and Succeeds

Entrapta’s and Hordak’s Social Differences Help Them Connect to One Another

I Would Have Appreciated A Scene Where Entrapta Learns About What Happened To Hordak

Hordak Takes Strength From Realizing That Entrapta Came For Him

Hordak and Entrapta Just Like One Another, and I Enjoy That

There is a Huge Difference in How The Alliance and Hordak React to Entrapta Being on Beast Island, and it’s Jarring

This is Mostly About Catradora But Kind of in the Sense of Why Entrapdak is Better, so Here it Goes

Entrapta Didn’t Teach Hordak How to Love; She Taught Him How to Be Loved

The Soup Scene is a Condensed View of Why Entrapdak Works in Light of the Rest of Hordak’s Arc

Hordak and Entrapta Search for One Another Alone, and it Makes Me Sad

I Love How Hordak Scooches Over for Entrapta to Join Him on his Throne

Catra

The How-Catra-Manipulated-Hordak Masterpost

Watching Catra and Hordak Switch Roles in Season Three is Fascinating

Hordak and Catra’s Low Points Indicate Their Core Problems

Did Hordak Abuse Catra? Did She Abuse Him? The World May Never Know

Comparing Hordak and Catra in Terms of Consequences and Agency

Hordak and Catra’s Apparent Ages Likely Affect How People Judge Them

Why Doesn’t Hordak Subdue Catra?

Losing and Regaining the Will to Fight is Another Hordak/Catra Parallel

Sometimes I Wish The Show Would Focus Less on Catra and More on Hordak

Why Catra Besting Hordak Isn’t As Satisfying As Catra Besting Shadow Weaver

Hordak Exhibits Some Level of Trust in Catra Even in Season 2... and She Betrays It

The Difference in How Hordak and Catra Handle Relationships followed by Why They Are Like This

Some Brief Words on the Differences Between How Hordak and Catra End Up Driven to Destruction in Season Four

Musing About What I Actually Would Accept as “Hordak Abusing Catra”

I Think It’s Kind of Funny that Some Expect Catra to be Suspicious of Hordak Post-Canon

Two Scenes That Look Distressing Side-by-Side

Discussing How Catra and Hordak Start Off as Parallels but Later Deviate Due to Character Differences

Adora

How Adora and Hordak End Season Four Differently

Hordak and Adora Parallels

I Wonder if Adora Recognizes Some of Herself in Hordak

Other

This is Actually About Shadow Weaver, but Compared to Hordak, So…

Hordak Doesn’t Seem to have a “Rule the World!” Moment (compared to Shadow Weaver)

On Hordak’s Weird Interactions with DT

Watching DT Circle Hordak is Interesting

Let’s Compare the Circling Scenes, Shall We?

What Wrong Hordak’s Arc Teaches Us About Clones and Hordak

Wondering if Hordak Actually has Control Over the Etherian Horde (could he have stopped the war?)

Prime

There Is A Huge Difference In The Standards Prime And Hordak Hold Others Two Versus Themselves

Hordak and Horde Prime Handle Their Own Vulnerabilities Quite Differently

The Difference Between How Prime and Hordak Use Anger

The Moment Prime Touched Hordak’s Face is the Moment I Truly Knew That Something About Hordak’s Backstory was Very Wrong

Clone/Origin/Prime-Related Sadness

The Clone Thing

More Distressed Bleating about The Clone Thing

Hordak’s DMV Photo Disturbs Me

Hordak Isn’t Actually an Idiot About Disease Transmission

On Hordak’s Bodily Autonomy, or Lack Thereof

How Much of Hordak is “Hordak?”

I’m 99% Certain That Hordak Sucks at Lying Because he Literally Couldn’t

You’d Think Hordak would Think Things Through, But…

Hordak isn’t Really Proud of “Hordak” (with a bonus Adora mention)

Hordak Provides Excellent Fridge Horror

Hordak’s Behavioral Pathology Isn’t Actually Pathology

So! That Purification Ritual was Really Something

Despite Erasure, Hordak Remains Himself

The Clones Are Essentially Trapped By Prime And It Upsets Me

I Get Annoyed That The Clones Aren’t Discussed More By Our Heroes

Again, I Wish The Show Acknowledged The Clones A Bit More, Wrongie Edition

Wouldn’t It Be Swell If Prime Really Did Manage The Clones Like Livestock?

It’s More Emotionally Poignant That The Clones Are Individuals Rather Than Drones

Prime’s Doctrine Ensures Hordak Blames Himself, and it’s an Awful Control Measure

Hordak Probably Isn’t Dumb for Using Uninsulated Cables; Rather, Clone Sadness is in Play

Why I Can’t See Hordak and the Other Clones As Colonizers (unlike Prime) (also a whole convo thread)

Thinking About Clones and Self-Care

Each Clone Will Have to Realize That They Were Victimized

Wondering if Horde Clones Might Feel Anxious Sleeping Alone

Why Prime Might Encourage Some Autonomy in His Clones (spoilers: for cruelty)

Completely Arbitrary Classification of Clones Post-Prime!

Prime is an Actual God to the Clones and it is Terrifying

Canon Plausibility of Blanket Burritoing Horde Clones!

I Appreciate That, Despite Their Devotion, the Clones are Portrayed as Legitimately Suffering due to Prime

Catra and Adora have Happy Memories; do the Clones?; does Hordak?

Morality/Punishment/Redemption Related

Morality is (sadly) not a Universal Thing

Don’t Talk to me About the Reset as “Proper Punishment”

Why Hordak Doesn’t Just Become a Good Citizen

I Think About Hordak’s Choices a Lot

Hordak as an Abuse Mimic Rather Than Pure Evil

Looking at the Horde Child Soldier Thing From a Certain POV

Emotional Support is a Necessary Part of Healing

Hordak Was Forgiven Without Redemption, And I’m OK With That

Hordak’s Arc Speaks Directly to People who were “Raised Wrong”

I Wonder if Hordak Would See anti-Princess Propaganda as Propaganda

Semi-Intelligent Plot/Story Observations

Hordak’s Portrayal is a Function of Character Lens

Hordak Gets Very Legit Development in Season Four

She-Ra Isn’t a War Drama and Here’s Why

Hordak Suffers From a Distressing Lack of Agency

Hordak is a Weirdly Unenthusiastic Lord

The Season 4 Finale Reframes Hordak’s Vulnerability

Untangling Hordak’s Backstory in Light of What We Now Know

Why Hordak Getting Possessed is Narratively Good

Hordak’s Rebellion and Subsequent Possession Essentially Summarize His Story

There Are Big Differences Between Hordak and Prime’s Etherian Wars

It Is Pretty Unlikely That Hordak Would Have Pulled The Portal Lever

It Occurred To Me That Hordak May Initially Ignore FO’s Tech Because It’s Just Really Old

An Assessment Of The Villain Intro Cards, Focusing On Hordak

I Think It’s Silly To Blame Hordak For Everything - Especially When Considering Prime

Literally Just a Thread Explaining Why Hordak is Sympathetic

Some Words On Exactly How Terrible DT’s Reveal Was For Hordak

The Escalation of Hordak’s Situation is Really Something

An Anon Asks a Normal Question and I go on a Tangent About Hordak Compensating for his Inability to Innovate via Entrapta and Catra

There are Monumental Differences Between the Galactic and Etherian Hordes in Terms of Brainwashing and Agency

Thinking About Why Chipped Etherians May Not be That Sympathetic To Clones After All

Random Bit of Logicking About Why Hordak Calls the Princesses a Rebellion

Figuring Out Why I Find Hordak So Much More Sympathetic Than The Princesses

Brief Musing on How Hordak Might Face Antagonism From Both Sides Post-Canon

Hordak’s Story Touches on the Concept of the Imperfection of Authority

Someone Asked Me if I Found Hordak’s S5 Arc Satisfying

Discussing Whether Or Not Hordak Planned on Leading Anything After Conquering Etheria

Taking Apart an Abysmal Twitter Take Because It’s Fun

Talking About Prime’s Clone Troops v. Robot Troops

Talking About Hordak’s Emotional Age

Hordak’s S3 Backtory Being Part-Delusion Helps Emphasize the Inequality in Attachment Between the Clones and Prime

A Few Not-So-Nice Acts Hordak Commits That I Find Justifiable

Random Headcanons of All Sorts

Stupidly Cute, Pointless Headcanon #3825 (ears covered)

Stupid Pointlessly Cute Headcanon #4853 (yawning, with appropriate artwork)

Stupid Pointlessly Cute Headcanon #2938 (snoring)

Stupid Pointlessly Cute Headcanon #1423 (REM sleep)

Stupidly Cute, Pointless Headcanon #7845 (blushing)

Random Hordak-Related Thought #2935 (forearms)

I Like to Think That Hordak Does Cute Things in his Sleep

I Like to Think That Hordak’s Eyes Dim While He Sleeps

Literally Me Just Having Emotions

Thinking About the Stress of Maintaining His Image in the Horde

Why Hordak’s Trauma is Particularly Disturbing To Me (compared to Catra/Adora)

Catra Overcomes her Fear of her Abuser; Hordak Does Not

All of my Emotions over the S4 Finale

Hordak’s Goddamned Smirk Lied to Me

I Have Feelings about Hordak’s Enforced Self-Care

I Need Hordak to Know that He is Loved

Hordak Goes Pew Pew and It’s Cute

Watching Hordak Lift Things Makes Me Smile

Hordak’s Unreasonable Expectations Make Me Sad

Please Just Let Hordak Rest

A Sassy Post About People Complaining the Hordak and Catra are Forgiven

All My Words About That Hordak/Adora Scene

Hordak Taps the Asphyxiation Lever With Two Fingers And It Makes Me Happy

I Wonder If Individuality Felt Blasphemous To Hordak

Please Don’t Stab Clones In Their Ports, Thank You

Hordak Clasps His Hands And It Makes Me Anxious

Hordak Shaming Catra Mimics the Purification Room And It’s Disturbing

Watching Hordak Give Up Is Heartbreaking

I Worry About Hordak Handling Anxiety

People Being Considerate of Hordak Makes My Heart Smile

I Wonder If Magic Was Frightening to Hordak at First

Thinking About Hordak Progressing in Terms of Self-Care

Prime Never Calls Hordak by Name, not Even Once

Just Being Sad While Realizing the Sort of Life Hordak had to Look Forward To

Strange Fic-Like Things No One Should Read

Please Consider: A Concept Masterpost

Hordak Practices Eyerolling

Imp Hacks Up The Worst Color of Hairball

#hordak #masterpost #entrapdak #this post fills me with an exquisite mix of pride and abject horror

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soranis-sunshadow · 4 years

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A SPOP Masterpost

A list of links to all of my own ramblings in the SPOP fandom for the sake of being organized.. well sort of..ish... I guess.

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My own Fanfiction - I’m on AO3 too

Through a mirror, Darkly - ongoing fic about horde clones dealing with the aftermath of Horde Prime’s death seen through the eyes of Yudi - the disaster clone from episode Launch. The road to healing is long and not always straight and Yudi is terrible at following the straight and narrow.

Catra and Hordak - on redemption

Looking back - Glimmer and Hordak talk after the war

With you I am complete - Hordak and Entrapta are having a very bad, no good day.

One out of five isn’t that bad - The four times Entrapta couldn't share her enthusiasm and the one time she could.

Coming home - Baker, Crypto Castle's grandmotherly castellan has a lot of cleaning to do because of the new inhabitants into her home, this ends up bothering her a lot less than she thought it would. (post s5 tooth rotting fluff where Imp makes sure Hordak makes a friend.)

Spop Discourse and headcanons

Why free will isn’t synonymous with the ability to make a choice free of influence or bias.

12 unpopular headcanons on Horde Prime

On Hordak’s “redemption”, or rather lack thereof.

SPOP Chronology

My Headcanon on how The Etherian Horde thing started

Hordak the ‘top general’

The Catra vs Hordak thing... again? ... :sighs:

Why Entrapdak is canon even in the early seasons

The one time these two dorks were unenthusiastic about science.

Horde Prime’s large shadow.

It’s called “religious trauma”, not “daddy issues”

Is Horde Prime ableist - a philosophical discussion

Idea for a Galactic horde AMV - The sound of silence

Not sameface syndrome

Hordak is anorexic.

Solitary Confinement on Etheria

The power of friendship - is only for cool friends

Why his stans relate to Hordak

Hordak: The “power-hungry” warmonger

Entrapta needs better friends

How Entrapta is treated within the show by both her friends and Hordak

About Entrapta’s amorality and “weirdness”

Entrapta and Catra - a complicated relationship

Horde Clones are Schrödinger’s individuals: both adults and children at the same time.

Debunking the Hordak = fascist colonizer thing again... bleh

An observation on Hordak’s choice of clothing

Horde Prime’s pupils

Why it’s not ok to compare Wrong Hordak to his defective brother.

A link to the extended scene with Hordak and Entapta

I don’t think Hordak is that old

Why Hordak didn’t become a good law abiding citizen once he got stranded on Etheria

Someone else’s words on the whole clone slave thing

The Evil Horde vs The Rebel Alliance: A question of morality.

An argument about the Hordak is cis het thing...