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smushystrawbabies · 1 year

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an old photo from 1993

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fllnordr · 4 months

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I would really love for the rdr community as a whole to stop trying, (and failing), to defend Dutch, and shift the blame entirely onto Micah. Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption II are both beautiful and well thought out games both in the gameplay and the storytelling. But I think a lot of people simply ignore those things, hence my long rant of a post.

TLDR: I think Micah was intentionally written to be one dimensional, and Dutch was manipulative from the start. Arthur is just a unreliable narrator.

We play through Arthur's eyes and see/believe what he does. We can see Arthur's loyalty blinds him (and by extension, us) to Dutch's behavior. I would know peace if some folks to took a media literacy class. Red Dead one & two are shining example of the bias in an unreliable narrator. Video games are not exempt from literary tools because you control part of the story. That control is limited to the actions of your bias protagonist, in this case John and Arthur.

The same applies to Micah. Arthur never trusts Micah from day one, and so we as the player don’t trust him either. It would be incredibly lazy on Rockstar’s behalf to created as one dimensional of a character as Micah. But the thing is, Arthur views him that way, a no good money-hungry thief from the start. Arthur is able to see through him, but he is blind to Dutch’s similar behavior because of his loyalty. It’s an incredibly smart tool to use in video games. Once you replay the game without the blinders on of your first playthrough, you’re able to see that Dutch has behaved the very same ways from Chapter One, all the way through Chapter Six. The only difference is that Arthur (and we the player) is slowly becoming aware of the patterns for the first time.

Now, for the blatant mischaracterization of Dutch entirely. To blame everything on Micah diminishes Dutch’s character to such an extent it completely disregards the decades long manipulation he inflicted on the gang, that is very real and very obvious. I won’t get into the way each individual character’s behavior was effected by this, but I will speak about Arthur and John briefly.

Dutch takes in people that are vulnerable and that he knows he can manipulate for his own gain. Children included. Multiple children, in fact. He always has a plan, not to keep folks safe, but to keep everyone comfortably under his thumb. It was always, "Are you with me, or against me" from the beginning. Everyone was either a means to his end, or they were worthless. The second someone did not agree, it was a betrayal, and an attack. I don't doubt he did some things out of kindness, but there's always ulterior motives. Dutch is nothing but a man of pretty words that hide his manipulation.

Dutch maintains an air of grandiosity amongst the gang. He obviously holds the belief that he is above them in all ways. He believes he is their leader because he is simply better than the rest of them. He’s smarter. He’s this god-like figure in his mind. He’s their savior. Hence his distaste for any doubt, or even being challenged.

Lenny and the conversation he has with Dutch about Evelyn Miller for example. Lenny indirectly call’s Dutch’s empty words out and points out that both Miller (Dutch’s idol) and Dutch himself hide behind their flowery words and phrases. Or Arthur and Hosea voicing their concern about robbing Leviticus Cornwall, it’s seen as a betrayal. Or when Uncle pokes fun at Dutch in camp and Dutch says to him, “I would really like to kill you right now.” Dutch may not be entirely self aware, but any attack at him does dig at him for a reason. And this is all from chapter two! There has always been a pattern.

Dutch says he "saved" them. He saved Bill, and John, and Arthur and Lenny and Javier. He saved all of them, and he is above all of them. Dutch sees people as nothing more as tools to meet his goals. There are instances where he does seem to genuinely care, but the ulterior motive is always there.

Dutch and Micah were written with the idea that we see the story through Arthur’s eyes. Arthur is blinded by his decades long to loyalty to Dutch and slowly coming to the realization of the truth. Micah is incredibly one dimensional cause Arthur sees through him and views him as a rat from the start. The truth of the story can be seen through repeated playthroughs. Dutch’s paranoia from the start, questioning Arthur’s loyalty from Colter. Micah sniffing around about the Blackwater money from the beginning. Arthur’s journal entries about the his biased version of the truth. Media literacy is necessary even in video games. God.

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emmithar-blog · 4 months

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On the Road. The Old Guard Before any of them back there… there was us.

#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #arthur morgan #hosea mathews #dutch van der linde #the old guard #digital art

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cryptidcr3ature · 20 days

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Hosea Matthews would love ranch dressing so much, I just know it.

#red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 #rdr #red dead redemption #rdr 2 #van der linde gang #hosea mathews #ranch dressing lover

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ccghastly · 9 months

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Arthur and Sleep

A series of Headcanons.

When he's in camp he is out, nothing short of gunfire and screaming can wake him

The hustle and bustle of camp actually helps him sleep, he's a very light sleeper when camping alone or out on the range. I lied, If there's a sudden silence in camp that will also wake him up

If Miss Grimshaw saw him ride in she wakes him at around 10am, if he rode in during the night and she didn't see him, she leaves him to sleep. She also shoos away and scolds everyone else that tries

Dutch! You leave that boy alone and let him get some sleep. If you need something done why don't you go bother Uncle, the useless layabout!

John is very jealous of how Arthur can sleep in full daylight like it's nothing. John only gets good rest if it's completely dark, hence why he bothers to completely batten down his tent every night

Arthur is a sleepy cuddle monster, if anyone gets within arms reach he will cling on and drag them down for cuddles. Which would be all well and good if he wasn't also a living furnace

He gets so warm during the night. It feels like the moon crests and he just starts sweating. Hates sleeping in an enclosed tent if it's not raining, thus why he refuses to use the sidewalls of his tent in camp. He needs any bit of a breeze that he can get. Great for the colder months however. Everyone wants to share a tent with Arthur in the colder months.

Jack gets first priority cause he's a child and he's teensy, but it is a vicious race for who else gets to share. Hosea is usually also a shoo in because he has Papa privilege, but Javier has a suspicious habit of being in the tent just chatting away when the time for bedding down comes and for Arthur to kindly extend an invitation to just stay the night. So, of course Javier obliges him.

Javier is Mexican down to his bones, he does not like the cold.

Arthur can and will nap absolutely everywhere in the camp, but it happens most often if he's sitting with someone. If there's a gap in conversation there's a 50/50 chance of him dozing off. And these odds rise in proportion to the length of the silence. Charles finds it very cute, he's very honored that Arthur trusts him that much. Hosea takes direct advantage of it by inviting Arthur for a chat then deliberately timing things so he falls asleep. Sean and Lenny have made a sport of timing it and the whole camp gets in on betting on how long it'll take this time, the current record is One minute and twenty-seven seconds.

Kind Anons have requested versions about the others so here's those links if that interests you↓

John and Sleep

Charles and Sleep

Javier and Sleep

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ato-dato · 2 years

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That’s nice sweety :)

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irishmacguirefucker · 4 months

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Rdr2 as pages from Postsecrets (Frank Warren)

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dutchieliciousplans · 24 days

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Happy Hosea Fucks Friday 🔥

This week Hosea ain't fucking around 😌 Dutch loves anything with Hosea on Hosea fucks Friday while John and Arthur gets dragged along with it.

Another self made memes I did with photos I've taken from rdr2 hope these are good enough 😅

Honestly Hosea would of loved mean girls and would host a girls night with Karen, Mary Beth and tilly (I just see them 3 really be into mean girls too) to watch mean girls with pink gin, pizzas and a pamper night.

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androgynousfool · 6 months

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Why does Hosea have to share a 'tent' with the others?

He should have his own place.

Petition for Hosea to have a tent 📝

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starkissminnie · 4 months

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hosea is fed up

#are they married?#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #hosea mathews #dutch van der linde #rdr2 screenshots

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marinsdoodles · 22 days

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#Forgot to add tags lol #Anyway more illustrations for my kierthur fanfiction :)#Sean and Lenny looking scared of hosea #hosea mathews #Arthur morgan #kieran duffy #red dead redemption 2 #My art

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issdisgrace · 1 year

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John Marston had a stutter when he was young and the only people that know he had one are Hosea, Dutch, and Arthur who all helped him with it.

Source: Because I said so

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emmithar-blog · 4 days

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This is a Robbery

#rdr2 #red dead redemption 2 #arthur morgan #hosea mathews #john marston #screenshots #messing with mods #what ifs

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cryptidcr3ature · 5 days

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Hosea is a true crime fanboy. In modern au, the gang either has to listen to Dutch’s shitty opera music, or the most gut wrenching true crime podcasts.

#hosea mathews #red dead redemption 2 #rdr2 #rdr #red dead redemption #rdr 2 #van der linde gang #dutch van der linde #true crime girlie Hosea

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ccghastly · 9 months

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Sub, Dom, or Switch

And Top, Bottom, or Both

With the Rdr2 boys

Some short headcanons on how the Van der Linde men like to get it.

(Nothing explicit, everything's written pretty obliquely)

Arthur, John, Charles, Hosea, Dutch, Keiran, Bill, Sean, Lenny, Javier, Micah,

Arthur:

Switch

Really depends on his mood.

Sometimes he's in the mood to feel big and in control, and sometimes he wants to lay back and be taken care of.

Both

He likes both equally well.

He just likes pleasure, however he's given it.

John:

Sub

A bratty sub, will snark the entire time, but not so secretly really likes being bossed around.

Top

Liked bottoming a bit too much the few times he tried it, and it made him feel insecure, so he sticks to topping

He is however very good at oral

Charles:

Switch

Not generally one for bed games, but depending on what his partner likes he can go either way

Top

Service top, loves taking care of his partners.

Had some bad experiences bottoming, so really doesn't prefer to do it anymore. But if he really trusts you he might be willing to give it a try.

Hosea:

Dom

Soft Dom, lots of praise and compliments.

Firm but sweet. Unlikely to give physical punishments.

Top

Simply doesn't derive a lot of pleasure from bottoming

Dutch:

Dom

Because not being in control makes him feel uncomfortably vulnerable.

Both

Surprisingly willing to go either way

As long as he's still holding the reins, so to speak.

Keiran:

Sub

Tried Doming once or twice but got too nervous that he was doing it wrong.

Likes having clear instructions and plainly stated punishments for if he doesn't follow them. Just likes knowing what to do, and getting praise for doing it.

Both

Can go either way, entirely dependent on what his partner would like to do.

Is very whiny either way, he tears up and gets all stuttery. It's cute as hell.

Bill:

Dom

Would be a switch if he wasn't madly insecure about his masculinity

If he trusts you he'd be willing to take a few orders.

Top

Bottoming also makes him feel very insecure

But as long as you never make fun of him for maybe wanting it, he'd probably open up enough to admit that he actually likes it either way.

Sean:

Switch

Depending on who he's with he either wants to give until they can't walk or take it until he can't.

Both

This boy just really wants to get fucked up, however the mood strikes him. Refuses to be shamed for it, everyone wants a piece of Macguire.

Lenny:

Dom

Really likes taking care of his partners, watching them fall to pleasure and knowing its all thanks to him.

The king of sweet aftercare.

Top

Was never interested in trying bottoming and still isn't.

Javier:

Switch

Leans more Dom but is willing to go either way depending on his partner.

Both

He is the loudest in bed, hands down. If he's talking It's almost entirely in Spanish, but he gets incoherent rapidly.

Very unashamed of how loud he is, why would he feel bad about a partner that makes him feel so good?

Micah:

Switch

Can go either way, but will run his mouth the entire time.

Some of what he says isn't even close to dirty talk, he just says whatever the hell comes to mind with no filter.

Bottom

He's, perhaps unsurprisingly, shameless about it. In fact he'll taunt his partners if they're not giving it to him well enough.

He's got standards and if they can't give him what he wants he'll go find someone who can.

(Here ya go, hoped you liked it! Lemme know what you think, I'd love to hear everyone's yays or nays)

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messy-gemini1 · 1 year

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Modern reader and rdr2 because i miss them

Arthur: Y/n, how are you doing? Y/n: Living the dream! Arthur: Oh, that's good. Y/n: Except, it's not my dream. It's a dream Stephen King once had. _____ Y/n: Don’t worry, I have a permit. Hosea: ...This just says “I can do what I want”. Y/n: mhm! :) ______

Hosea: Something tells me Y/n's going to be a bit more unhinged today... Y/n, holding a lit match and a bag of cheetos: Leave me be, Dutch isn't home to stop me, I'm going feral. _____

Hosea: When Y/n was born, the gods said, "They're too perfect for this world." Arthur: Please. When they were born, the devil said, "Oh, competition." ______

*Y/n showing arthur a modern computer* Arthur: How does that even work? Y/n, mocking them: hOw dO yOu UsE a cOmPUteR aNd KnOw wHaTS GoiNg oN iT DoEsNt mAke SeNSe?! Arthur: Your face doesnt make sense. _____ John: Come on Y/n, do it for our friendship. You can't put a price on that... Y/n: Yes I can, dear. Fifty dollars ______ John: I’ve never asked someone out. How do you even do it? Arthur: Oh, what I do is, I look them up and down and I say: “Hey… how you doin’?” Y/n, scoffing: Oh, please. Arthur, to Y/n: Hey, how you doin’? Y/n: Y/n: *giggles and blushes* ______ Arthur: You need a hobby. John: I have a hobby! Arthur:: Hitting Y/n isn't a hobby nor is getting your ass kicked by Y/n. _____ Y/n: Sean just said "I have an appetite for destruction" and then they reached down and untied my shoe. ______ Micah, dramatically: They called me a fool. Y/n, sick of Micah's shit: They weren’t wrong. ______

Y/n: I would do anything for money. *later* Y/n, covered in blood: THE STATEMENT STILL STANDS! Dutch:*debating his deseion on letting reader stay in the camp* ______ Micah: your a little bastard! Y/n: how'd you know my dad died? Arthur: *so done with Y/n's shit*

#rdr2 incorrect quotes #rdr2 memes #arthur morgan x reader #micah bell #hosea mathews #dutch van der linde #john marston

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