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andy-clutterbuck · 6 years
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#Pat I'd like to solve the puzzle  [requested by anon]
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sparrowmoth · 3 years
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Okay so I habe a legit question about descendants that idk if it's ever necessarily answered in the books or other media sources but... does Uma have a specific feud or something against Jay that would keep them from some sort of peace/reconciliation after d3? Like obviously there's the rivalry that spilled over to their gangs/lutentients but I wasn't sure if Uma hates Jay or not and I'm trying to world build a fic so I wondered your thoughts if any one what their issues might be
Hi, Anon! Canon’s pretty thin on most details regarding the VKs’ childhood interactions, but here’s what I can tell you: per the books, Jay was hanging out with the pirates (specifically Harry and Gil) long before Uma had formed a gang with them (seeing as how that only happens in the third book, which is set right before Descendants 2). Here’s the source for Jay hanging out with the pirates, by the way:
“No, the goblins only work for themselves,” said Mal. “The only ones who could possibly be loyal to her are the pirates.”
“A bunch of thieves and thugs,” said Jay.
“Harry and Gil? You used to run with them,” Carlos chided. “Didn’t you?”
“I sure did,” admitted Jay. “That’s how I know they’re all a bunch of scoundrels.”
This quote is from Book 3, Chapter 14. Notice that Jay says nothing about Uma specifically, nor does Carlos, who’s very specific about who Jay used to hang out with. Also, note that it’s hilariously ironic (dare I say hypocritical) for Jay to be grumping about the pirates being thieves and thugs. Not my boy’s finest moment. Auradonian propaganda though, what can be said.
At the start of Book 3, young Mal and Uma are said to have been “pranking Hook’s crew, making tick-tock noises to scare the pirate captain himself, and getting on Smee’s already agitated nerves” (Book 3, Prologue), so from this, it can be assumed: 1) Jay and Uma didn’t likely ever hang out as kids, but they definitely saw a lot of each other; 2) Mal was more than likely the one to convince Jay to stop hanging out with the pirates/around the wharf after her fallout with Uma, which happened when they were both 10. This would align with the fact that it’s canon that Jay and Mal became close as children, several years before forming the gang with Carlos and Evie.
The only other suggestion of Jay and Uma having interacted as kids, as far as I recall, is in the first graphic novel, which opens with Evie’s birthday party. A couple panels show Evie, Carlos, Jay, Harry, Uma, and some other children together (with all the parents present except Ursula) before Maleficent calls the party off. This was when they were all around 6 (except for Carlos, who’d have been 4), and since Uma was obviously hanging out at the party without Mal, it’s likely their childhood alliance formed sometime after this.
It’s less clear whether or not Jay was already hanging out with the pirates, since he’s only depicted stealing gifts from Evie when no one’s looking and then running off with his father when the party’s cancelled; Uma and Harry are shown running close to Jay and Jafar, in the same direction, but it would be a reach to say that makes any comment on their relationship at the time.
Final word on it: I think Jay and Uma have a fairly neutral history together in canon when you factor out the issues they’ve had with each other’s gang members. If D3 is canon in your world building without any significant changes or reinterpretations, then it’s pretty clear that the gangs are on track to becoming friends post-D3. That means there shouldn’t be any reason Jay and Uma wouldn’t get along.
If anything, the most awkward thing for them would be realizing that despite how long they’ve technically known each other, they only really know about each other from the rumours and trash-talk on both sides. I think they’d be able to put that aside and start fresh in Auradon, though. Probably be good friends in time! They just seem like they’d bring out the best in each other.
Hope that helps! Good luck with your worldbuilding! <3
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My crush’s name is: Cassie
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I was born in: 1998, Australia, NSW
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I am really: I am really annoyed that you wanna know so much about me anon y u do dis
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My cellphone company is: Optus
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My eye color is: Brown
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My shoe size is: 11 Australia Mens
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My ring size is: i dont know
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My height is: 181cm or 5′10″ i tihnk
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I am allergic to: NOTHING I AM UNSTOPPABLE
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My 1st car was: No Car
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My 1st job was: I was an assistant at some guys authentic pizza shop. He was an asshole and i shouldve killed him before quitting.
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Last book you read: Ready Player One
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My bed is: My bed is my one true love and warm machine luv u bb
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My pet:  I have 2 dogs they’re fluffy love muffins called Pepsi (boy) Bella (Girl) ill post photos of them later!
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My best friend:
@schotts-fired
at this point i have as many memes with Kat as i do my real life best friend.
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My favorite shampoo is: Really nice smelling ones.
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Xbox or ps3: PS3
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Piggy banks are: Piggy banks are dumb i have a golden pineapple for my spare change.
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In my pockets:  earphones.
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On my calendar: every friday i do stuff but thats it
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Marriage is: cool
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Spongebob can: produce good memes
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My mom: Isnt nice i probably wont talk to her once i move out.
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The last three songs I bought were?Buying? Songs?
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Last YouTube video watched: Masculinity by Mr Sark
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How many cousins do you have? at least 3
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Do you have any siblings? 3 Brothers and a Sister ive seen twice
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Are your parents divorced? Yes
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Are you taller than your mom? Hell yeah shes a goblin at like 150cm.
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Do you play an instrument? No
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What did you do yesterday? I slept, watched movies, complained about the internet being down.
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Love at first sight: Not unless its a dog
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Luck: No but if someone does something better than me they’re lucky >:(
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Fate: No
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Yourself: No
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Aliens: I wish they would fix everything
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Heaven: Questioning my religious beliefs lately
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Hell: ^
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God: ^
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Horoscopes: No but they’re funny to read
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Soul mates: No.
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Ghosts: NOT BUT LIKE ALIENS I WANT THEM TO BE REAL GHOSTS PLEASE BE REAL.
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Gay Marriage: Yah its about as good as straight marriage
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War: its about as shit as i am
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Orbs: what are these?
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Magic: Refer to both ghosts and aliens.
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Hugs or Kisses: Hugs
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Drunk or High: Drunk
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Phone or Online: Online
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Red heads or Black haired: Red Heads
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Blondes or Brunettes: Brunettes
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Hot or cold: Cold
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Summer or winter: Winter
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Autumn or Spring: Spring
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Chocolate or vanilla: Chocolate
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Night or Day: Night
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Oranges or Apples: Apples
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Curly or Straight hair: Straight
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McDonalds or Burger King: McDonalds
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White Chocolate or Milk Chocolate: White Chocolate
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Mac or PC: PC
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Flip flops or high heals: High heals like healing in video games am i right?
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Ugly and rich OR sweet and poor: Sweet and Poor
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Coke or Pepsi: Coke
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Hillary or Obama: Obama
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Burried or cremated: Burried so i may rise again!
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Singing or Dancing: Dancing
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Coach or Chanel: What
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Kat McPhee or Taylor Hicks:Who
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Small town or Big city: Big City
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Wal-Mart or Target: Target
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Ben Stiller or Adam Sandler: Adam Sandler
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Manicure or Pedicure: neither? 
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East Coast or West Coast: East coast cause western australia is a bunch of weirdos
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Your Birthday or Christmas: My birthday cause giving gifts is hard and spending time with people is easy.
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Chocolate or Flowers:Chocolate
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Disney or Six Flags: Disney
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Yankees or Red Sox: is that sports?
[ Here’s What I Think About ]
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War: War Never Changes
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George Bush: He definitely did sleep with that woman.
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Gay Marriage: Good again!
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The presidential election: Trump is a rollercoaster of emotion ranging from bad to worse. At least the memes are good!
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Abortion: Choice
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MySpace: Had some pretty good games on it
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Reality TV: awful
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Parents:  My parents? Out of the 4 ive had i like one of them.
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Back stabbers: What kind of question is this i hate them.
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Ebay: Dont use ebay really.
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Facebook: The thing i use so real life friends can contact me its trash.
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Work: My experiences have been, less than pleasant.
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My Neighbors: I dont know any of my neighbours but they’re rude and dont reply to my hello’s.
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Gas Prices: i dont fucking know
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Designer Clothes: I dont care for clothes i wear tshirts and trackies all the time.
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College: No opinion on call egg.
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Sports: Fun to play boring to watch
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My family: i like my dad and my brothers
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The future: must be better than now?
[ Last time I ]
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Hugged someone: someone i wasnt related to like a month ago
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Last time you ate: literally always
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Saw someone I haven’t seen in awhile: last friday
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Cried in front of someone: fucking years ago i dont cry in front of people anymore
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Went to a movie theater: like a month ago
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Took a vacation: never
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Swam in a pool: 3 months ago
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Changed a diaper: never
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Got my nails done: a year ago
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Went to a wedding: also a year ago
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Broke a bone: never
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Got a peircing: never
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Broke the law: never
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Texted: couple hours ago
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Who makes you laugh the most: myself, anime
@schotts-fired
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Something I will really miss when I leave home is: the internet
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The last movie I saw: Taking of Pelham 123
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The thing that I’m looking forward to the most: Finding my happiness again
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The thing im not looking forward to: my ex making social interactions awkward again
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People call me: Jack
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The most difficult thing to do is: get out of bed, finish breakfast
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I have gotten a speeding ticket: no
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My zodiac sign is: Sagittarius 
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The first person i talked to today was:
@whoneedsasociallife
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First time you had a crush: Primary School one of my Teachers
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The one person who i can’t hide things from: Nobody.
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Last time someone said something you were thinking: Constantly
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Right now I am talking to: Nobody
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What are you going to do when you grow up: Anything hopefully ill be happy
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I have/will get a job: Someday
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Tomorrow: Movies with dad, night with friends
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Today: nothing
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Next Summer: nothing
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Next Weekend: also nothing
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I have these pets: 2 diggity doggos
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The worst sound in the world: the sound my computer makes when it bluescreens while music it playing
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The person that makes me cry the most is: my ex
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People that make you happy: almost nobody
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Last time I cried: like 5 hours ago
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My friends are: trash shit garbage
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My computer is: absolute trash after so many issues im planning on getting a new one
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My School: sucked complete ass i was abused by a teacher
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My Car: doesnt exist
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I lose all respect for people who: no answer
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The movie I cried at was: anything that involves any form of friendship and love, or dogs dying
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Your hair color is: brown
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TV shows you watch: read my about
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Favorite web site: tumblr/youtube
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Your dream vacation: the fucking moon
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The worst pain I was ever in was: I had a cough last year that completely killed my voice and tore up my throat, coughed up blood
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How do you like your steak cooked: Well Done
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My room is: Clean and tidy af
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My favorite celebrity is: none
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Where would you like to be: in the future
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Do you want children: no
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Ever been in love: yes it fucking ruined me
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Who’s your best friend:
@schotts-fired
we already have more memes than my irl best friend
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More guy friends or girl friends: girl friends
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One thing that makes you feel great is: memes
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One person that you wish you could see right now: nobody tbh
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Do you have a 5 year plan: nope
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Have you made a list of things to do before you die: climb Mt. Everest, thats it
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Have you pre-named your children: nope
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Last person I got mad at: myself
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I would like to move to: a place with good internet
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I wish I was a professional: Twitch Streamer
[ My Favorites ]
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Candy: Red Licorice
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Vehicle: Shopping trolleys i guess
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President: Obama
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State visited: I dont travel
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Cellphone provider: Optus
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Athlete: None
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Actor: None
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Actress: None
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Singer: None
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Band: None
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Clothing store: None
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Grocery store:None
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TV show: Doctor Who
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Movie: Cant remember
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Website: Tumblr/Youtube
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Animal: Dogs
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Theme park: Wet n’ Wild
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Holiday: New Years
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Sport to watch: None
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Sport to play: None
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Magazine: None
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Book: Ready Player One
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Day of the week: Friday
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Beach: Nobbys Beach 
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Concert attended: None
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Thing to cook: Potato Bake
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Food: Pork Ribs
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Restaurant: Any place that sells pork ribs
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Radio station: None.
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Yankee candle scent: what
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Perfume: no
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Flower: any that can go in my hair like a hipster
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Color: Purple
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Talk show host: John Oliver
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Comedian: Louis C.K.
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Dog breed: Shiba Inu
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Did you answer all these truthfully? maybe i dont know myself
Fuck you anon you cant stop me im dedicated as heck and butts fight me.
:Update: I went and updated these cause my internet came back!
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