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seaquestions · 7 months
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part of me is glad to see the post where ppl r thirsting over yajima from genshiken bcos she looks just like me for real (no but for real for real) but every time i die a little bit because even just thinking abt genshiken nidaime makes me start frothing at the mouth with near rage. but oh well. They Don't Know.
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floatingcatacombs · 5 months
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GENSHIKEN POWER LEVELS
12 Days of Aniblogging 2023, Day 10
For no particular reason, all the members of the Genshiken have had their abilities translated into specific parameters. It’s pretty obvious that A would be the strongest, but you might be thinking to yourself, “What on earth is all this B+ and C+ nonsense!?” Well, don’t worry, because I’m not going to explain anything here. Just consult the Servant Parameter Rules.
Overall, the ratings represent ‘otaku power expressed as deviance, taking combat potential into account’.
Spotted Flower spoilers follow. (everyone is bisexual now).
Sasahara Kanji: C+, B
Condition: Green
An “average” otaku in nearly all respects, though he has good taste and the ability to distance himself and speak objectively, even when under attack by girls. Can appreciate yaoi in some situations. As a manga editor, of course, his power increases, and his devotion to his waifu is commendable. The Gunpla Quiz gave him the Ball as his favorite mobile suit, and he’s also a Patwaber fan!
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Still… Ahhh! Men who get in the way of Yuri are unforgivable!
Kousaka Makoto A-
BAYOEN! BAYOEN! BAYOEN! BAYOEN! BAYOEN!
Extremely high base stats, a very scary offense and near-perfect defense, that pretty-boy face, perfect crossdressing, and the ability to make it all look effortless. Capable of going at it for half an hour while also watching anime! He can pull girls for threesomes whenever he wants! (not Saki though). He’s a master of the Great Tanaka Rensa technique! That kind of power is truly fearsome… However, a kiss on the cheek from Sasahara was super effective.
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Harunobu Madarame. C++/--
Sou Uke
A lot of pros, a lot of cons. However, it all balances out to an average C. This guy is the very picture of a normal otaku… or at least, he tries to be. Low base stats, excellent coverage and decent utility, but he suffers from four moveslot syndrome. Capable of entering a gay relationship, and even bottoming, although the circumstances were not particularly praiseworthy. Easily punishable, due to his excessive recovery frames.
…I can’t decide if cheating on his wife on the night she gave birth to their child is something that raises or lowers his power level.
Mitsunori Kugayama C-
Level 27 Ranger
A pretty skilled artist, when he has to be. Usually he doesn’t have to be, so that’s fine. Manages to live a nice normal life without drama, and that counts for a lot – but he’s pretty conflict-averse.
Souichirou Tanaka. B
P-Bandai 1/100 MG Master Grade Ver. Ka
Capable of successfully synthesizing 2d and 3d by sewing cosplay, building gunpla, and even making custom figurines. Tanaka definitely understands the power of care and love. That’s not the kind of power you can take lightly.
The type to mostly just block attacks until he sees an opening.
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Kasukabe Saki E
Blood Type: AB
An otaku-sounding name, but a low power level. Not actually very good at conflict, either. Still, she has been to Comiket Comifest! Don’t count her out.
Ohno Kanako D+, B
Wears a Three Star Uniform
Just wants to be a pretty cosplay mannequin with no internality – until Ogiue shows up, and then the gloves come off. You can really tell the devs put a lot of effort into that jiggling, huh. Don’t take her lightly though: she built seven Goufs.
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Her victory line, “There’s no such thing as a girl who hates homos!!”, does feel really out of place after a round win against Hato though.
The Genshiken President ???
BLOOD TYPE: BLUE
A mystery to the last.
Angela Burton – C+
“Unlike your chest, mine gives people dreams and desires.”
You’d think that not being able to understand all those doujinshi she’s buying would make her a weak otaku – but in practice not speaking Japanese just makes her really good at dodging attacks. Extremely high attack power. Eventually becomes an enlightened being capable of appreciating both Yaoi and Yuri and, uh, demanding threesomes from her friends. Hm.
Suzanna Hopkins – B+
Pettan Pettan Tsurupettan
Today I’ll sneakily hide in the trees again and keep stalking Ogiue! I'll wait and steal the precious thing!  The little girl who speaks in nothing but references is actually really blushing?! She sticks out her arms when she runs; is she going for the cute look?
This fanservice joke girl (evil spirit begone!) /
born into the nation of America (probably plays puyo puyo)/
was actually, canonically, (Kadabra, Alakazam)/
bisexual??????? (Mada Mada Ra, Mada Mada Ra, Mada Mada Rame, yeah!)/
Manabu Kuchiki – E
Stand Parameter: Development Potential E
The other kind of joke character. Like Sue, he’s a grappler, but he just doesn’t have enough options or ability to adjust to matchups. Gets points for liking traps, but loses them for one-note misogyny; gets  points for kissing Madarame but loses them for being boring. Starts a lot of conflict but easy and uninteresting to deal with; he always goes for the super so you just have to bait it out and then smash attack him.
If that wasn’t enough, I personally hate this guy because if not for him Hato and Madarame totally would have done That!!!!!  
Ogiue Chika D+, A
Genshiken Brigade Chief and Ultra Fujoshi Director
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Incredible otaku power – enough to draw doujinshi of people she knows in real life and easily grasp the truth of Kifujin Kaminaga’s “Hato x Brother” madness. She does constantly try to kill herself and deny her heart but once she stops doing that she’s capable of producing incredible amounts of manga. Ends up with a boyfriend and a girlfriend but complains that sexually satisfying them both takes away from her drawing time. She’s bad at dealing with conflict but her pure ‘level of ability as an otaku’ is close to the top of the rankings.
This ranking is curtain fire shooting game.
Girls do their best now and are preparing. Please watch warmly until it is ready.
The border land was wrapped in Scarlet Magic. Girls believe that you solve this Genshiken Nidaime.
Yoshitake Rika C+++
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Nen Type: Manipulator (Pseudo-Coercive).
A demon of chaos. Her power as a fujoshi is fairly standard, but she devotes herself wholeheartedly to causing problems and drama – and in this capacity she’s powerful enough to approach Hato. All her moves have random components… in serious play nobody uses her but among casual players she’s often considered broken.
Yoshitake Risa D
Noble Phantasm Rank C
It’s all fictional anyway but girl. what is wrong with you. Fails to appreciate Hato, but does get Hato to wear fetish clothing, so that’s a bonus. The gap between her appearance and her personality is moe.
Mirei Yajima D+, A-
Self-Proclaimed Uncute Girl Doing Uncute Things
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Toiling away in the shonen mines, convinced that someday Naruto and Sasuke will kiss for real no you just don’t understand the depths of their relationship. A terrible artist, and she knows it. Grouchy and grumbly and insecure about her gender presentation, especially with Hato around.
But she’s a good writer, and a good editor, and she knows what she wants (Hato) and how to get it. My second favorite character honestly; I really love the way her complexes towards and around Hato play out. “He needs to have sex with a guy so we can draw better manga, which is the only way to make sure he stays with me!” Yajimacchi are you okay? (no she is not. She has way too much internality).
Kenjirou Hato. A++
Super High School Level Homewrecker
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What is Hato’s otaku level? Let’s review: Hato is a crossdresser with a foundational crush on his older brother’s EX-level fujoshi girlfriend, going so far as to dress up as her, copy her drawing style well enough to end up with a wall circle spot at Comifest, and blush when she tells him “Hey. I’m getting married to your brother soon. It’d be really hot if you dressed up as me and fucked my husband-to-be, your brother, as revenge on me for taking him away from you.”
Hato has a naked floating tulpa girl of his fujoshi self floating around behind him who does things like make him smell his senpai’s bedsheets and shower in his room, hoping Madarame will walk in on him. Once he's in deep enough with all of this, he gains a second naked floating tulpa girl of his fujoshi self who has the same eyes as his older brother's girlfriend and is Evil. Hato then integrates both of them and keeps crossdressing after a conversation with Ogiue about what he really wants to be and what he wants to draw.
Hato is out of his fucking mind. I love him.
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Hato’s conflict potential is also extremely high. Not only was he a judoka (who spent time in the locker room looking at other boys’ bodies and thinking about yaoi) he expertly plays all kinds of “ohhhh you should just give up on me” women games with Madarame’s pure maidenly heart.
And then Spotted Flower happens. Spotted Flower is a moiling toxic sexual swamp of barely-holding-together relationships and threesomes where your good old favorite Genshiken buddies are now bi (Kousaka, Sasahara, Sue, Ogiue, Angela, and Yajima, in addition to original series bisexuals Madarame and Hato) and cheating on each other. Everybody hates Spotted Flower and they’re so wrong.
By the time of Spotted Flower, Hato is living as a woman full time, with silicone implants.
Regrettably, I have no choice but to stan.
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decafbat · 1 year
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I had been meaning to read Genshiken for forever but seeing you post the page where Ohno praises Hato for how much effort she put in to present as a woman to come to the club is what made me finally read it, and I loved it! Though I didnt particularly love that like the last quarter of the series is focused on the Madarame harem. Hato was the only part of that storyline that felt properly fleshed out to me, I don't really understand why the others liked him except maybe Sue I guess. Even her felt like a bit of a stretch.
not a huge fan either. especially with sue. it felt like it was kinda giving madarame some character development for a second, maybe actually showing how someone can move past their weird deleterious obsessions but with sue it feels like this sort of weird wish fulfillment that madarame definitely doesnt deserve given everything. i will admit tho, hato x madarame IS very cute and its keeping me going all the way through. im actually only halfway through nidaime at this point because ive been waiting for a chance to get volume 7 physically. for some reason its the rarest one to find in english, it goes for like over 100 dollars most of the time. very frustrating, im just too stubborn to read online.
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academic-weapon · 1 year
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Genshiken (III)
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word count: 308 words 03.08.23
This I've looked forward to: drawing to a close our discussion of this show. I certainly do feel as though other shows and films we've studied have been far more deserving of week-long attention, but alas, the nuances of belonging to a community typically looked down upon by society take precedence.
Personal dislike aside... Genshiken Nidaime primarily focuses on the theme of generational differences and the evolution of otaku culture. This is very similar with the themes of season one, except with the added exploration of taboo interests among female club members.
Over the course of the season, the characters grapple with the changing landscape of the otaku subculture, including the rise of online fandoms and the increasing mainstream acceptance of anime and manga. They also confront personal challenges related to their identities and relationships, including Ogiue's struggles with her past as a fujoshi and the romantic tension between Hato, a new member who is exploring his gender identity through crossdressing, and Madarame, a longtime member who is grappling with his own feelings. Certainly, many of these personal concerns are relevant among many members of our society today— the series does well in high lighting personal struggles and overcoming the in a fairly realistic manner.
The mainstream acceptance of anime and manga has both positive and negative effects on otakus, depending on the individual and their perspective. Increased mainstream acceptance has led to greater accessibility of anime and manga, with more titles being officially licensed and available for purchase or streaming, but with the growing popularity of anime and manga, there has been an influx of casual fans who may not fully understand or appreciate the culture behind these hobbies. This might lead to the commercialization and homogenization of anime and manga, with some otakus feeling that the unique and niche aspects of the subculture are being lost.
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shyuch · 1 year
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Genshiken Second Season
I'm not going to lie, this whole season confused me a lot.
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Observations with Hato
With Hato, it seems that the most apparent reason he dresses this way is because he would like to be a girl, right? But it seems like the anime doesn't make it out to be this way. The anime shows him to be dressing up like this in order to avoid the repercussions of liking BL. The whole backstory of him is that he was once found out looking at BL in the stalls, and was made fun of for it ever since high school. I think that it makes perfect sense that Hato would want to start dressing like a girl, especially when he participates in Genshiken, because it would sure be a lot more socially acceptable to view BL in a club filled with "rotten girls" and blending in as one, than a guy seemingly there for no reason.
Comparing and Contrasting the Generations of Clubs
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With the first generation of the club, there was a difference to what they liked in contrast to the current generation. It seems that they were much more engrossed to the characters themselves rather than the relationships they were in. Mostly, they purchased Doujinshis that were of a standalone character in various different "fan service" fashions. Also, much more of their hobbies were electronic. Most importantly though, this generation of the club was mostly consumers, it was never really shown how much they actually produced for the cultural economy. For example, the manga club fires at Genshiken, calling them very useless for only doing cosplays and things that aren't as significant to the circulation of materials.
The current generation, it is much different. I feel as though this generation is incredibly susceptible to BL. It seems like no matter what the characters are, they can start imagining a BL love story in their head, and begin turning it into material. The gist is that the relationship between the characters rather than the characters themselves drives their consumption. In addition, they are producing a lot more. Ogiue, who is very talented at drawing manga, is producing works that many people buy at comic-cons, and it is showing significant contribution rather than simple consumption.
One thing's for sure though, besides the coldness in the beginning, they are proud of this identity of being an otaku. Both generations participated in comic-cons, purchasing Doujinshis, engaging in fandom, and heavily consuming material.
It seems that everything has changed yet nothing has changed at the same time; they are a reflection of each other.
Madarame
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Even though he's grown up, is a salary man with a respectable position, he never stops admitting that he's an otaku. He never rid himself of the title of being an otaku. It shows that to an extent, fandom never stops, no matter what age you are. The only thing he commented about his current situation is that being an adult is hard, and it makes being an otaku hard.
It's interesting to see how much he's grown.
Overall, I liked the spiciness of this season, it was more interesting than the last one.
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7/10
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Genshiken season 2 (1,3,4,10)
Honesty I still think that Genshiken is really trashy! However, it seems that I can tolerate more of this season of Genshiken because they tone it down on the pervy side of otaku. But of course, they need to somewhat leave some perviness for comedic purposes. One of the main differences that I noticed in this season is that the new members of Genshiken rather call themselves rotten girls and not otakus. Instead of recruiting members by targeting the shared interest of the Genshien club, Ogiue uses her artistic drawing of BL manga that gain female members. The club is more focused on creating its own doujinshi instead of fangirling and collecting doujinshi. Hato’s crossdressing as a female is constantly referred to as cosplay by Oono. I don’t understand what is wrong that Hato’s interest in Boy-love manga, his former sempai thought that since she spread the word that he was reading BL in the bathroom that is why he crossdress. If I remember correctly, Hato’s future sister-in-law asks him if his interest in boy-love manga could influence his sexuality. 
I found it funny that Hato’s crush on Madarame was introduced similar fashion to Madarame’s crush on Saki. Hato images scenarios like in the boy-love manga that he reads that what could have happened when Madarame comes home and find Hato in the bed or shower. Some of the girls told Madarame that he needed to move on from his crush on Saki if doesn’t even try to act on it, like move on from his otaku love. He tried to invite Hato (in girl form) for drinks and was embarrassed afterward. I guess his trying to invite a girl for a drink is a step toward actually making a move in the romantic scene instead of living in an otaku fantasy. 
Not gonna lie -_-  I think that I can hop on the Hato x Madarame ship lol
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viciar · 1 year
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God I hate the ending of Genshiken Nidaime sorry. I hate how they forced the “Madarame’s harem” plot that nobody wanted and didn’t even have a satisfying payoff. The end of that arc is immediately made pointless right after anyway so why did it have to happen and why did they have to undo like 5 layers of Hato’s character development at once near the end of it
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leiogerio · 1 year
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^ monogatari reference
Genshiken Nidaime, the second season of the popular anime series, continues to delight fans with its hilarious portrayal of otaku culture. However, after watching several episodes, it's becoming apparent that the show is starting to get repetitive.
Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of moments in Genshiken Nidaime that will make you laugh out loud. The show's ability to take common otaku stereotypes and turn them on their head is still as entertaining as ever. The main characters are all loveable and quirky in their own ways, and their interactions with each other are often what make the show so enjoyable to watch.
But as the season progresses, it's clear that the show is starting to fall back on some of the same jokes and plotlines that we've seen before. For example, the whole subplot with Hato's gender identity and cross-dressing is starting to feel a little tired. We get it, Hato is a boy who likes to dress up as a girl. While there are still some genuinely funny moments that come out of this (such as when Hato gets mistaken for a girl by one of the other characters), it's starting to feel like the show is beating a dead horse with this storyline.
The same can be said for the recurring plotline involving Madarame's unrequited love for Saki. While I appreciate the show's dedication to exploring this dynamic, it's starting to feel like we're not really getting anywhere with it. Madarame continues to pine after Saki, and Saki continues to be oblivious to his feelings. It's a classic anime trope, but at this point, it's starting to feel a little stale.
That's not to say that Genshiken Nidaime is a bad show by any means. It's still one of the funniest and most heartfelt portrayals of otaku culture that you'll find in anime. But as the show continues to rely on the same jokes and plotlines, it's starting to feel like it's lost some of its spark.
One of the things that made the first season of Genshiken so great was its ability to introduce us to a wide variety of characters and explore their unique quirks and interests. While the second season still has a great cast of characters, it feels like we're not really getting to know them any better than we did in the first season. The show is starting to feel a little stagnant, like it's spinning its wheels and not really going anywhere.
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jjraderftw · 1 year
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Genshiken Second Season (ep. 1,3,4,10)
The last bit of this show actually got me interested in it. The updated animation, the introduction of new characters, and more upbeat plots per episode made me find a lot more overall enjoyment in the show and had me chuckling a bit throughout the anime. I think the second season did a good job exploring what it truly means to be an otaku while also exploring the fears and struggles of knowing yourself, your interests and your sexuality.
The idea of being a true otaku is displayed in this season. To be an otaku means to evolve and avidly partake in the media you consume. It’s not enough to simply watch an anime or read manga, but avidly become one with it. This is possible through activities such as cosplaying and writing fanfiction/doujinshi. These activities involve you actively partaking in the fandom you like to attain the fictional desires most otakus have. You grow the media and it changes based on its fan base too. The attributes of certain anime and manga are added to a theoretical database that fans can access and use in their own writings and outfits. This season, we see lots of both cosplay and writing. Chika has embraced her inner otaku and began creating her own original works that draw upon stuff she has seen or read. She has become an active participant in the world of fiction that anime fans love to interact with, which may itself become part of the database as well. The rest of the cast such as Sue, Oone, and Rika express themselves through cosplay to live out and become their fantasies. There is even a scene where Oone mentions how cosplay has to be perfect in order to truly live up to the source material, including wearing (or not wearing) the same type of underwear and having the same tone of voice.
The idea of coming to terms with your person and interests are talked about in this season. Characters who were ashamed of their interests and kinks such as Chika have come to terms with who they are. They no longer need to ridicule others or hide their true colors to be comfortable in their own skin. She has accepted herself as an otaku and removed the stereotypes attached to that label from herself. However, Hato is a special case in this topic. Hato is someone who likes to cross dress as a girl and likes to be seen as a girl while in club in order to show his true interest in fujoshi. Outside of the club, he dresses like a boy and hides his true interests, afraid of being called out for liking guys (which he himself is also conflicted about). Through the episodes we watch, we see Hato break out of his shell and talk about his interests in his guy persona with Maderame, whom he has a somewhat complicated interest in. He is able to show the others in the club both sides of himself and finally learns to feel comfortable saying how he enjoys the fujoshi community. He claims his interest has nothing to do with his sexuality but he starts questioning this a bit when he remembers the level of comfort he has with Madarame. These episodes show that it’s okay to be weary of your sexuality and explore options. There is no shame in that and we as a society should see it as okay too. Furthermore, it helps further extinguish the fear people have about their interest and kinks. In moderation and within reason, there is no reason to be fearful of liking something.
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nelll101 · 1 year
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Genshiken Second Season (ep. 1,3,4,10)
This show is just....idk
The second season throws in new characters and a slightly new animation style but still obviously keeps its otaku themes. There's not much I got from these episodes except the theme of fantasy.
First in episode 3, a girl tells Madarame “That's why you're still wasting your life in this room. Try asking somebody out in real life for once, otaku”. This shows how people who aren't otaku or aren't even into anime/manga see otaku's. Her character saying this shows the judgment that otaku's receive (on top of the judgment they have for themselves already).
In regard to fantasy, in episode 4 (I believe), a girl says that Ogiue in middle school used her boyfriend in a BL book and in episode 10 someone said also that its common for girls to use their boyfriends as characters. This shows how engrossed in this fantasy world otaku's can get. Ogiue did it to where her boyfriend felt embarrassed and had to switch schools. Otaku's create this fantasy world just out of their own pure interest and in the case with Ogiue, without regard for others. In episode 10, Kaminaga, who draws BL manga/images, says, "It's just in our little fantasies".
There was also this whole debate with Hato on his sexuality because he cross-dresses and likes BL even though he says he isn't gay. I don't know if there's any importance in that but that was a pretty noticeable part of each episode.
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beefmastersblog · 1 year
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Genshiken Second Season (ep. 1,3,4,10)
I thought it was interesting to see a time skip and the characters all grown up, I actually liked that the second season was a jump in time, showing where the characters are a few years from then. I liked seeing the way that different characters grew into their personalities, especially Oguie becoming the president of the club, embracing her doujinshi, and exploring possible careers in the industry. I always enjoy shows that show real character growth and I feel like she specifically has grown a lot.
I also liked a new exploration of different types of Otaku, specifically Hato, who cross-dresses. It was nice to see a piece of media that explicitly shows someone exploring their identity in that way, with him trying to figure out his sexuality in terms of having possible feelings for Madarame and the fact that he also enjoys BL Doujins.
However, I will admit that the plot was starting to feel a bit repetitive. I don't necessarily think this show needed an entire second season, I think maybe a finale time-skip episode would have sufficed. Maybe if the show tried to incorporate more things into it than just the same day-to-day activities repeating over and over, then I would like it more, but the plot just felt very bland after a while.
I did think it was creepy and weird that Madarame is still heavily involved in the club after graduating, and I found Hato's relationship with him to be quite disturbing, especially during the scene where his female counterpart was encouraging him to basically sexually assault Madarame in his sleep. I could have done without all that. When I said the show needed spiced up a bit, that is not what I meant. I also don't know if it is really the best type of representation to have the one cross-dressing, sexuality-questioning character think of doing such downright nasty things to another person.
But focusing only on Madarame, I feel like this anime showed a completely different side of being an otaku with him. We have the few club members who left and went on to do things with their life... and the few (one) that didn't. And I think this goes to show how he is struggling with finding a passion for something that is as strong as the passion he feels for anime. And this is something that is very applicable to the real world. It isn't easy to find a career when you don't know what you are passionate about or when you feel like what you want to do isn't a viable option for you. And I feel like Madarame is stuck in that position, choosing to live close to the club and engage with these young people to try to hold onto the fond memories that he had there. But I think there comes a point where you need to let go and move on.
Overall, this anime started out as something that was interesting and that I would not have sought out on my own, and I honestly did enjoy it a bit during the first season and OVA. But the second season just left a lot to be desired. I think this is my least favorite of the shows we have seen so far, but I tried it and now I know I don't really like it.
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plusultranumber1 · 1 year
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My Thoughts on Genshiken Second Season EP 1, 3, 4, 10
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The series continues following the Genshiken group, but most of the main crew from the first season has left to be replaced by mostly women. The series continues to depict the lives and relationships of the Otakus and how their shared passions draw them closer to one another. The group introduces new members who each have their own preferences when it comes to how they approach their hobby, whether it be through writing doujinshi or cosplay. This string of episodes largely focus on the fandom sects of crossdressing and male-centric doujinshi. Specifically, with the introduction of Hato, the perceptions of crossdressing and doujinshi within Otaku culture and larger society is discussed to show that even in a haven for which people are supposed to be free to be themselves, discrimination and struggles for acceptance still exists. 
When Hato is discovered to be crossdressing, there are different reactions amongst the Genshiken group. Most of the group is fine with Hato’s choice and accommodates her needs, but Hajima argues that Hato must conform. The others argue that they are used to it and don’t mind because they cosplay. Hajima continues her protest when the group must cosplay in order for Hato to feel comfortable hiding her mustache. The dynamics within the group show that despite the Otaku culture consisting of a multitude of different interests and hobbies as a way of expressing one’s passions, there are some expressions that are deemed less acceptable in the eyes of some.
As Madarame and Hato begin to get to know each other, they have a conversation regarding crossdressing. Madarame is able to have a normal conversation with Hato and treats him normally even if they are a girl or guy, as he separates crossdressing as a hobby over sexual preference. Madarame views Hato’s hobbies as no more than that, and does not judge Hato’s character solely on his passion, because that would mean conceding that his own passions lacked worth. The separation from art and sexuality is also addressed in the relationship between Kaminaga and Hato. Hato had been previously bullied for his affinity for male-centered doujinshi. However, Hato insists that he still prefers women. Kaminaga, Hato’s love interest, thinks that liking BL and crossdressing changes Hato’s sexuality, but Hato says that he just enjoys it as an art. The series highlights the separation of passion for fiction from reality within the Otaku culture.
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gabby-salvador · 1 year
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Genshiken Season 2
Once again, the main themes which we discussed in part 1 of Genshiken has shown up in Genshiken Season 2, along with a couple of new themes presented in it. A big thing to note is the fact that Madarame is still part of Genshiken, despite the fact that the rest of the characters from season 1 have already gone on to graduate college and join the workforce. Even Saki admits to Madarame: “You haven’t changed a bit. You watch too much anime.” Despite the fact that Saki, too was a part of Genshiken (even though she was not an otaku whatsoever), she even tells Madarame that he hasn’t been able to grow because of the fact that he hasn’t changed: he is still stuck in his passion for anime as an otaku as well as stuck (willingly, might I add, which is the main reason why he doesn’t want to move on with his life) in Genshiken. Even Madarame admits this, saying how he “can’t really disagree”, with an embarrassed face. 
Another point I would like to bring up is how Kuuchi reacted after realizing that Hato possibly was changing into her outfit while on campus rather than before coming to school. At this moment, he says, “I feel kind of betrayed. I was looking for her every day. But when I think that she might be changing somewhere on campus even as we speak… I’m going to go on a search, and once I find what I’m looking for I might attack it, but that’s just who I am!” Once again, this perverted side of the otaku fan base comes out, but in a much scarier way (even though they’re trying to make the situation seem funny). This moment definitely refers to the possible mindset behind the Miyazaki incident, before anyone was actually harmed. Although it is supposed to feel funny, this scene is very alarming because Kuuchi is beginning to cross that line which you are not supposed to cross whatsoever: the line which separates otaku with perverted imaginations but don’t do anything about it and otaku which actually fulfill their fantasies physically.
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zotalks · 1 year
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Genshiken Final
I am not sure how to feel about this anime, while it is not what I normally watch, I can find myself laughing many times throughout the show but also at other times I will not be enjoying the show, its weird I know.
Throughout this season we are still going over otaku culture and new aspects of it as Hato experiences two different identities, one as a guy and one as a girl all depending on how they are currently dressed up. However just like many characters and other fans of anime in real life, they are embarrassed about their interests and do not want to be caught dead when dressing up. To add on we are shown how Hato has questioned his sexuality especially when it comes to Madarame, where he is shown to say some questionable things that I will not repeat on this tumblr post. Hatos female side is the one with fujoshi thoughts and their male side is sort of a neutralizer for these thoughts and it is a kind of weird dynamic going on throughout the show.
To add on the connection from this anime to our texts is obviously still there with the Otaku culture being very prevalent and the main focal point of this show. One of those being the dresses and dressing up how it gives the otakus their own sense of control over a persona as they are taking something that is fiction (the attire that a character wears) and then turning it into their own sense of self (i forgot the exact name used in class for this)
Overall as I said I have mixed feelings on this show and am glad we are moving onto the next show.
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dahstev · 1 year
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Misushima – Genshiken Second Season (ep. 1,3,4,10)
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After going through two chairmen, the Genshiken club now is mostly dominated by females. This anime focuses on BL and fanfiction and has brought a more realistic approach compared to the exaggerated Otaku nature from Genshiken 1. I got to admit there were many awkward scenes. The atmosphere seemed to be a lot more chill compared to Genshiken 1 without Saki being around and the club being more accepting, such as in the case with Hato. Most of the girls are Fujoshi, known as “rotten girls,” who are obsessed with relationships between homosexual men. They don’t fit into the typical category of gender orientations – bisexual, gay, etc. I would assume people’s sexual interests would be the result of their sexual orientation. Even if the mind lives in alternate worlds, the mind would still contain the same perspective and would result in one preference. If so, how would you categorize the correlation between what individuals fantasized about and the perspectives in the real world? The anime also introduces characters from outside of Japan, Sue and Angela, that bring the Western perspective of Japan’s anime society and culture. They act as if they are aware of the current culture in Japan and are at par with individuals in Japan’s society. To be acting carefree and inconsiderate just paints a bad image. Take Angela for example. Before and at the comic fest, she tries to hit it up with Madarame in public. She doesn’t consider her surroundings and acts assertively, making the scene inappropriate.
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animenss · 1 year
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Misushima – Genshiken Second Season (ep. 1,3,4,10)
In Genshiken Season 2, eps 1, 3, 4, 10. We are back at the Otaku’s club. Again, I couldn't help but notice some forms of discrimination towards the Otakus. The Miyazaki incident led to an Otaku scare, and social resentment towards those deemed Otaku arose throughout Japan.
Suzi being a foreigner, however, has not grown up in the Japanese culture affected by the Miyazaki incident. As such, she’s comfortable expressing her Otaku self, unlike most of the other portrayed Japan raised Otakus. 
The stereotypical Otaku perversion is also an ample subject in these episodes. We can see instances in the anime where the characters have to face their sexual desires toward fictional works. Despite this being a similar subject to that of the circumstances faced in the first season, there is a greater emphasis on erotic fiction. Particularly boy love. In season two, the cast is replaced by a group of “rotten” girls — or fujoshi,  is a Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men. Even Kenjiro Hato had an interest in these boys love erotic works. Despite the perceived perversion associated with these otaku interests, they are not carried out. When Kenjiro and his alternate persona reflect on living out their boy love fantasies on the passed out Harunobu Madarame, they are never carried out. Toward the end, Kenjiro Hato discusses with Kaminaga some quite erotic boy love ideas, ideas that he denies real interest in for himself to partake.
Expressions of the characters Otaku’s interest is also of interest. Kanako cosplaying, Chika’s production of doujinshi, particularly boy love, And Souichirou Tanaka’s creation of cosplaying outfits are all examples of these Otakus' attempts to recreate their fictitious interests into a fiction of their own. Whether its an imitation of a fictitious character, storyline, or clothing style, These otakus are attempting to take their consumed fiction into their own non-reality.
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