part of the reason its pointless to argue with terfs is that they refuse to own up to any member of their group's fucked up behavior.

when it comes to terfs harassing cis women in women's bathrooms, they insist that NEVER HAPPENS. when it comes to transmascs being correctively sexually assaulted by terfs, they insist that's just made up nonsense. there's never any show of concern or even "if that's true we need to hold these people accountable in our communities," it's just "LOL omg what are you talking about!!! no terf has ever done that haha gendies are so crazy" like. maybe people would be more willing to not treat you like a hate group if y'all weren't so set on refusing to accept that people in your group Do Extremely Harmful Things. like even if you still agree with radical feminism, the fact that they won't even admit there are extremely harmful people within that is telling!

and then they act surprised when there's a huge racism (and from what i've seen, intersexism) problem and a ton of TERFs who are abusive in their interpersonal relationships. that happens in like, every hate movement- the baeddels also had a problem with protecting abusers and cult-like harmful behavior towards their own members. hate groups aren't just harmful to their targets but draw in cruel, abusive people because those are the kind of people who want total control over other's lives.