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DS9 4x03 Hippocratic Oath thoughts (I'm re-watching, so beware spoilers for future episodes!)

(21/06/2023)

So excited for this episode, love me some Miles&Julian

"I believe the Ferengi bartender is plotting something with him." Oh Worf, you are new here, aren't you?

"Odo keeps him in check." "Yes, but not in prison." Maybe - just maybe - there's a reason for that? Given Odo's been Chief of Security for three years, and Sisko's a very competent commander?

"We're on course back to the wormhole and should arrive at the station two days ahead of schedule." Hah, no you won't!

Julian just completely bullshitting "by spending your free time in the bedroom, a place you intimately associate with Keiko, you are actually expressing a desire to be closer to her during her absence." like he's a student with a word count to reach

"Why can't she be more like...[you]" "More like... [me?]" "Well, a man. More like a man." I cannot with this conversation, ever.

The two of them bouncing around in their seats is so ridiculous to watch XD

I was so confused about how Miles is a non-com until recently - in LARP it means non-combatant, and I kept thinking that no-one ever respected that Miles should not be fighting!

Miles' non-reaction to "We will kill you first."

"Human, rank of lieutenant with a specialty in the sciences." "Doctor, actually." If he's going to die, he's going to go down with the right title, thank you very much!

Loving this conflict between Odo and Worf. You go, Odo! (Is it bad I'm looking forward to Worf losing this battle?)

"They need a doctor. Someone's injured, or sick." "If that's true, Julian, don't help them." But he's gotta, it's what he dies, Miles!

" And you need to understand that I'm a Starfleet officer, and I won't do any work for you that might potentially be used against the Federation or any other race for that matter. Now, if that's what you want, you'll have to kill me." Julian you are incredible, you know that?

"Now give those men what they need, please." ohhhh, the tight desperation in his voice 💔

Odo is being much calmer about Starfleet poking their nose in his security matters than usual - maybe because Worf doesn't actually have any security jurisdiction, unlike Primmin and Eddington did?

Miles' "Sir" and "Lieutenant" playacting (foreshadowinggggg)

Julian's suddenly gone even posher??! Somehow stress brings out RP in extremis?

I love Miles and O'Brien both having perfectly valid different opinions. This argument is fantastic and I love Julian's impassioned "They're not animals. They're people being used as slaves. And this is their one chance at freedom."

"I am the senior officer here and I have decided what we're going to do. Now, I need the bio-spectral phase discriminator from the runabout's sensor array. I haven't got the technical skills to remove it, so I'm ordering you to do it. Is that clear?" Oof, I don;t think he likes taking this role, and having to give orders, but he's clearly very frustrated with Miles' opposite beliefs

Julian's demonstrating his determined belief in Goran'Agar's goodness by trusting him to find O'Brien for him <3

"You are a soldier?" "I have been." "Then you explain." Finally, something that might resonate with Miles. Just too late.

"Let's just say DS Nine has more shades of grey. And Quark definitely is a shade of grey." Yessss exposition the premise of DS9 to the newbie :P

"You had a choice and you chose to disobey orders, override my judgment, and condemn those men to death." Ohhh, this gave me some genetic engineering feels... (so many in fact, that there is more on that here!)

"Maybe in a few days." I don't know what that smile's doing, Julian, but I'm glad you're hopeful.

This is such a great episode, I really do like it - and Miles and Julian acting as foils to each other and both having incredibly convincing points of view is phenomenal, more please! :P

#ds9 hippocratic oath #ds9 4x3 #julian bashir #miles o'brien #andi watches ds9 #WSB

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ds9promenade · 5 years

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Deep Space Nine 4x3, “The Visitor”

I adore how Benjamin Sisko encourages and nurtures his son’s fledgling writing career, while also ensuring that Jake doesn’t let life pass him by. That’s a tough balance to strike, but you can tell that Benjamin does it and does it well by Jake’s response at the close of this conversation: Ben promises to read and discuss what Jake’s written so far if Jake will just come watch the wormhole with him; Jake says “Deal.” Jake lets Ben read his drafts, and values his father’s insight! Let me tell you, when I was Jake’s age I was secretive af about my writing; I didn’t like my parents to know it existed and I certainly never let them read a word of it. Jake trusts his father, respects his father, because Benjamin does the work to ensure that Jake knows how loved and respected he is.

This exchange is even more poignant when you know which episode of DS9 this is -- it’s the one where, just minutes after this conversation, Benjamin is zapped by the warpcore and eventually discovered to be not dead, but lost in subspace. Jake is devastated by the loss of his father, his greatest supporter; and for all the long decades of his life, he is unable to gain closure for his grief because Ben is not dead, but truly, simply, “lost.” Not unlike his father, Jake drifts through the years -- unable to make marriage work, scarcely able to write, because the need to help his father who had so often helped him eats at him so intensely.

“It’s life, Jake! You can miss it if you don’t open your eyes” -- or if you are too overcome by grief without closure to pursue your own joy. But, spoiler alert for the episode, the love between father and son wins out -- at the close of his long life adrift, Jake saves his father and gives them both a second chance to live life together.

Executive producer Ira Steven Behr wrote: "A love stronger than death. Usually that's romantic love, but for this show, this series, we chose the love between a father and son" (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion, p. 270.

In her article on DS9′s revolutionary depiction of Black fatherhood, Angelica Jade Bastién writes:

“No series before or since has a portrayed a black father with such complexity, crafting him as a widow, a powerful authority figure, a religious icon, a man whose morals are formed in shades of gray and whose love of his son remained his guiding principle.

...‘The Visitor’ brings to the fore what separates Deep Space Nine from the more widely praised representations of black fatherhood: its continued dedication to revealing the emotional vulnerability of the black family at its center. Throughout ‘The Visitor,’ Sisko and Jake laugh, weep, and reveal just how deep their love goes for one another. Seeing black men cry, grapple with the historical importance of their existence, and remain beautifully, dynamically human is something no other science-fiction series on television has done with such panache.”

#benjamin sisko #jake sisko #ds9 #deep space nine #the visitor #gif #my gifs #op #fatherhood

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