I was chilling on a livestream where someone was making a bingo card for the scarlet and violet trailer and someone was constantly talking about how submas should be in gen 9 cause it would be sad and how Emmet should be the leader of the villain organization for the "sad motive" and I just left

Throughout the whole trailer I was just dreading any possible reference to submas and how the tag would mutate into something worse somehow.

On a lighter note Scarlet and Violet look interesting

So that's where that came from. That is not a very good take at all, and it doesn't make sense with the theme of the games. Pokemon also doesn't really do characters or organizations spanning across multiple Gens. Team Rocket is an exception and so is Looker, and there might be more that I'm forgetting. Mostly what we get are cameos in optional areas, or else they don't affect the plot much. Ingo's an odd case of being more than a cameo, and he seems like he would have a subplot about remembering and returning home but so far he doesn't. But we've never seen something like a character from one game turn up several Gens later as a villain, and something like that, or making games sadder is not the kind of stories the series likes to tell.

I can't even go into the tags anymore, and when I do, so much comes up as being blocked due to my filters. I'm tired of the angst and sadness and the demand for it. (And it seems like the ableism is becoming more of a problem? I'm seeing more people addressing it).

I feel like the Submas tags on here are in their own bubble, if that makes sense. I suspect the average Pokemon fan is not expecting or demanding a Submas appearance in Scarlet and Violet. I know people in the tags are jumping on the whole "past and future themes" but we don't know much about that right now at all, save for the box Legendaries seem to be themed towards that as well as the Professors' names and clothing. At times it feels like people forget that Submas wasn't essential to the plot of Gen 5, and PLA is not a Submas-centric game. Scarlet and Violet are new games, focusing on a new region with its own stories and characters. The story was likely done before PLA released. Putting Submas in can, and given the fans and fandom, would take the attention from everything else. If anything, the game devs may have learned from PLA that putting in Ingo and/or Emmet overshadows the other characters and main plot. Even people who didn’t know or like Submas before and didn’t jump on the fandom train are wondering how and why Ingo got to Hisui and why there’s been no closure for him.

There's also a very good chance that Ingo will turn up when they revisit 5th Gen with barely any or no references to PLA, like it never happened, and/or we'll find out later PLA takes place in its own universe, or something like the variants are canon but the story wasn't. Pokemon might not be into angst, grimdark, overall sad stories, etc, but it DOES work with different dimensions and alternate universes. The most reference to them I expect to see would be something like an ad for the Battle Subway or reference like the kids talking about it in Hulbury's train station in SwSh. It would be a nice thing to let us know he's OK, but any reference is more likely just to let us know we can expect to revisit Unova next.

I like the new Pokemon we’ve seen so far. I also find it interesting that the new rival looks a bit older than the player character. I’m not so keen on the box Legendaries yet, but I’m excited to see a true open world, explore at whatever pace I want, and I’m wondering if they’ll have Gyms, how that will factor into the open world, or if they’ll do something else. (Sorry for the long reply!)

I'm a bit more forgiving to Let's Go now that I think about the strategy being used here.

Talk about beta pokemon designs and ideas from gen 1, someone "conveniently" releases the gold beta and showcases gen 2 betas too.

Let's Go: grabs in the casuals, kiddos, fans that haven't played in forever, and regular players that will buy pokemon games (myself included for all my griping). Sells a ton of Switches meaning there's a decent base already.

Detective Pikachu: cute, fun looking "what if they were real" movie with a mix of old and new pokemon to appease to more people. Technically rumored to be a pg 13 movie but that can mean a ton of things. Ryan Reynolds, beloved actor and sass man, plays adorable lead role. Keeps Pokemon in the public limelight

At present LGPE is doing about as well as ORAS did considering the release and extra $20 or more price tag (depending on if you got the pokeball plus which brings in an extra $30 or so). I think if my theory of a sturdier or mini switch is true, 2019 is going to do REALLY well for returning fans or fans that skipped kanto for gen 8.

The games are going to be aimed for long time players according to an interview (ie not pandering, hopefully), they've had practice with the system and promise the best graphics to date, and claim there will be lots of new pokemon, but will be traditional, meaning as long as they play their cards correct and bring in some cool looking monsters, it will be a great success WITHOUT the need to rely on so much nostalgia and they can focus on newer and better stuff. I mean, they're always successful, but you know.

I think they once said "don't get your hopes up too high" (I don't know if it's a reference to the 2019 game or LGPE), but I think this might just be referring to the people wanting open world or wanting another non traditional game like Sun and Moon. In any case the bar is kinda low anyway? Don't bring back the Go mechanic, don't pander too much to gen 1 again, put in a good effort and make badass, adorable and silly new friends and they'll succeed. Also it might be a silly red herring. "Don't get your Hope's too high *releases the best damn game ever, critics floored, profits skyrocket*"

Like it's hard NOT to be excited thinking about it. All they have to do is try and it'll be great.