i think people who refuse to give any sympathy towards mapleshade's situation or her acknowledge as a victim of the clan structure are boring but i'm also glad the fandom have mostly moved out of the "poor sweet gentle mother who was fully morally justified in everything she did (and moral justification being the end all be all of character analysis) who goes on to be a cool protective Mum(tm) to all the dark forest trainees. who is crookedstar" being treated as an interpretation that is literal and not what mapleshade views herself as. bro mapleshade is an asshooole she's a bad parent and a selfish person and it's a disservice to her character to wash her clean of that instead of working around it lmfao. if you make her either Born Evil or Did Nothing Wrong you are missing all the fun parts