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walkingaftermidnight07 · 2 years

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Why Ryan Murphy needs to fucking stop: A Rant

So.

Netflix has decided that they're going to renew Ryan Murphy's "Dahmer" series as a collection of "monsters".

Basically what I mean by that, is that they're going to do the same thing as the original show but with other infamous serial killers.

And let me just start off saying, I have not watched Dahmer. I have no plans to watch it. I do not want to give it any attention if I can help it.

Yes, I'm aware I'm talking about it right now. But talking about why it's problematic is different from watching it and giving it hours watched that it doesn't deserve. That's how shows continue to be made. Netflix doesn't care what you think about it, they just want people to watch it. So hate-watching something for the purpose of making fun of it or hating it does more harm than good. Keep that in mind.

As many people have already pointed out, the Dahmer show is very problematic because it takes a serious horrific story about a sadistic person killing innocent people and turning it into a drama that exists solely to make money and for entertainment value. It erases the actual legacy of these people in favor of putting them on this pedestal. A crime shouldn't be about the person who committed it. The most important thing is the keep the victims alive in our memories. Not the killer.

I sometimes hate Netflix because they let this sort of thing happen way too often. Just because they make other shows that are good and give us good representation or are genuinely decent, doesn't mean that they should be allowed to get away with something like this.

The fact that when the Dahmer show originally came out, Netflix put it in the LGBTQ tag demonstrates just how little they care about actual good representation. That is just plainly offensive and diminishes the category of LGBTQ media by grouping it with the problematic show about a serial killer, even if he is gay, as are his victims. He is a gay man killing his gay victims. What about that screams good representation in television. It might be a true story but that doesn't mean it's what we want to see ourselves represented in.

(not to mention that Ryan Murphy never really got permission from the victims' families for portraying the victims in the show which is also kind of frustrating because that is so fucking disrespectful--)

And the fact that Ryan Murphy disagreed with them removing the tag makes me annoyed. Just because he thinks that this show about a gay murderer killing his gay victims is a good example of gay tv, doesn't mean the rest of the community agrees.

Murphy has always kind of made some interesting choices in the television he creates, but he often seems to get away with a lot of it. *cough* glee *cough cough*

Obviously some of those examples just haven't stood the test of time, but that's not true for everything. I mean, remember Prom? That movie was....definitely something.

Anyways. The main point I want to make is that we need to stop giving this any attention. We shouldn't stream the show just to hate-watch it, we shouldn't give it any more internet traffic than it deserves, because we shouldn't give Netflix money for turning these tragedies into entertainment that turns these horrible people into the face of their crimes.

that's my rant lol

plz rb so that more people can see this post and comment so i can hear y'all's thoughts on this.

#scarlett talks #ryan murphy #dahmer #evan peters #netflix #i know its not my usual content #but i think its super important for people to know #i dont believe in cancel culture but i want someone to stop him #plz interact #also dont forget about the cultural appropriation #all the dahmer costumes make me sick #seriously one of my classmates went as one of his victims bc his gf wanted to be dahmer #that is not ok #that should not be happening

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problematicfactive · 7 months

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hi. im a dahmer factive. im here to talk about halloween. sorry if this ask is too mean or too blunt. i just don't have a place to put it.

i hate people who dress up as me for halloween. it feels gross to me. it feels disgusting, and to go out on a holiday that involves candy and kids dressed as a real serial killer fucks me up so bad. you never know where people who are affected by these things will be. you never know if theres someone related to a victim out there and yet they parade around dressed as me as if its a sick joke.

it just makes me so mad the lack of respect some people have.

- dahmer.

It depends sometimes I think. I have a friend who just happens to be blonde and wear glasses. He wanted to be a prisoner for Halloween.

I did make an attempt to warn him "Hey, people are going to think you're Dahmer" but he'd already gotten the costume so there wasn't really a lot that could be done for him. After thatit was just a point of assumption. Someone would ask him "what did you go to jail for" and occasionally the answer would be murder. I think the other answer he said he would give was arson but. To the people he answered murder, it's very plausible that they went on to think he was trying to be Dahmer. And you could argue that maybe it's that kids job to draw a separation if he knew he could get confused with Dahmer. I'd argue that it's Halloween and if a kid wants to say he went to prison for murder he should be able to. It's kind of on you to not make assumptions about people

Last year (I was not allowed to front) the host was on a quest to take as many pictures with as many people as possible. We got one with a guy. Just some dirty blonce white guy with that was a prisoner. I don't even think he even had glasses. The host was later told "that's Jeffrey Dahmer" and now that kid is like memorialized in most of our friends minds as the guy that was Jeffrey dahmer for Halloween that one year. But was he really or were we just making assumptions?

Of course, that's just the people you make assumptions on and I'm sure there are people who are loud about it. I've never met one though.

Ted asked me the other day how I felt about people being us for Halloween and I told him I'd never seen anyone dressed as him, but I never really answered the question. And I guess my answer is I don't think those people can be blamed. Between Dahmer, My Friend Dahmer, Dahmer: Monster - The Story or whatever it's called, and every single other story people have made to capitalize on Dahmer, the life of Jeffrey Dahmer had been rinsed, repeated, and shoved in people's faces over and over again.

I don't think the people who dress as Dahmer do so with intent of harming the victims or their families. I think they see him as this. Popular character. They don't have enough of a grasp on whats going on around them to see how people even today are still hurt by dahmer. Or any of those other serial killers that media companies have just turned into money makers.

I read something from a victims family member. She's tired of the adaptation after adaptation of Dahmer. She's tired of reliving her truama every time a new Dahmer story comes out. At this point, these adaptations aren't spreading awareness, they're grasping for money. They've almost normalized showcasement of serial killers through that, not just Dahmer, all of them. These halloween kids. They're just a product of that.

I think, in my opinion, I don't mind too much what people dress up as, I don't want to police that. But there is undoubtedly a lot of disrespect in costumes like these. These kids don't really realize the affects of what they're doing and that's where I blame the people who are writing these books and publishing these movies. They need to stop, they've done enough. And do say that as an introject of a serial killer formed from a movie just like those ones. I like that movie cause I like to see myself.

I'd rather it didn't exist and I didn't exist then have to putthe families through the truama they go through.

That's my opinion on it, it's still totally valid to not like those people and yk, you could say "well, other people who saw dahmer know better so these ones should too" and that's true. But there's always gonna be someone. Had that most recent dahmer show not released though, I don't think a lot of people would recognize someone being Jeffrey Dahmer.

People might confuse someone being Gacy for a clown. But if a new movie about Gacy came out and got Dahmer popularity, people might start confusing EVERY clown for Gacy.

Its a shitty circumstance to be in,definitely, especially if you're introjected from him. Hopefully by next year there won't be any more dahmer hype

#askers experience

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appleflavoredkitkats · 7 years

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Underrated / Most Forgotten Things In BoM

prepare for me stating so much crap

- that INTRO + the great lipsyncing

-jesus’ robe LIGHTS UP

-ben platt’s OOPS in hello!

-the person who sings “HELLLLLL-OOOO”

-” You're like the smartest, best, most deserving Elder the center's ever seen! “ and that big smile the elder gives

-that INSANE choreography part 1

-elder green flapping his hands during “AND MOTHRA”

-THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN ELDER PRICE SINGS ABOUT ORLANDO (INCLUDES ARNOLD HIGH FIVING EVERYONE AND SLOW MO CHEERING)

-elder price’s jump

-the harmony of their voices along with the clapping

-”he answered your prayers huh”

-that INSANE costume change part 1

-kevin’s family and arnold’s family

-MRS. BROWN

-”are you a star wars guy or a star trek guy”

-STAR WARS BACKPACK

-when kevin starts singing “something incredible” THE CURTAINS FALL RIGHT ON FRONT OF ARNOLD

-the dead animal they dragged around

-the first general scene with stolen luggage

-”mr. marfala hatimbi?”

-”haha the police are in kampala! two drives away!”

-that INSTRUMENTAL part 1

-KEVIN HOLDING THE BABY

-ARNOLD’S DANCING

-”HOLEY MOLEY I SAID IT LIKE 13 TIMES”

-”FUCK.... YOU.... //INSANE SHIT GOING ON I CAN’T EXPLAIN//”

-nabulungi’s smile in “wonderful disposition!”

-”fuck you god in the mouth, ass and cunt-a” “fuck you in the other eye”

-NABA TWIRLING KEVIN AS MAFALA TWIRLS ARNOLD

-naba’s monologue on keeping the windows closed

-”such a hot shade of black! like a latte”

-”a little confused” “OOH CONFUSED?”

-stephen ashfield’s MOVES AS MCKINLEY IN TURN IT OFF

-”the fear that i might get cancer too”

-kevin price wiping his face with a handkerchief when mckinley talks about his thoughts about steve in the london boot

-”hetero side just won!” //pounds chest//

-INSANE CHOREOGRAPHY part 2

-INSANE COSTUME CHANGE part 2

-mckinley’s actions after tap dancing,,, it varies depending on the boot

-”FLIP, POW, PUSH IT DOWN!”

-that dude in the back of the last pose

-”A SIX SEVEN EIGHT” //tapdancing to the rooms//

-connor grabs kevin’s hand

-connor tapdancing away

-arnold stealing the sheets from kevin

-"baba i found one, a texting device!"

-arnold and kevin singing two by two AGAIN

-"THEY'VE GOT NO DOORBELLS, WHAT DO WE DO WHAT DO WE DO--?"

-"i have maggots in my scrotum" "you should probably see the doctor" "i am the doctor"

-"those were CHRISTIAN missionaries, we're mormons!"

-THAT INSANE INSTRUMENTAL part 2

-kevin's breakdancing

-kevin and joseph smith's synchronized dance moves

-moroni's sick dance moves

-THOSE ELDERS IN BONNETS (one of them named peaches!)

-THE MEN IN BONNETS WERE CARRIED BY THE OTHERS

-"what the fuck is a stake knife?"

-ARNOLD HASN'T READ THE BOOK OF MORMON

-jumamosi!

-"because when i kill... and drink blood for power... I DO IT BUTT FUCKING NAKED"

-THE BUTCHER WHO WAS KILLED (rip)

-"WITH ALL THE FLOUR YOU CAN EAT!"

-nabulungi's mother

-"FLYYYY"

-"OH EM GOSH YOU GUYS"

-elder thomas accidentally read a playboy

-elders screaming after they saw what happened to elder price ,, then an elder clicks,, then they laugh

-”I JUST GOT STUCK WITH YOU” (kevin ya douche)

-I am here for you (reprise)

-INSANE CHOREOGRAPHY part 3

-INSANE INSTRUMENTAL part 3

-those gangster elders

-cunningham working out in the background

-arnold dodging bullets move like the matrix

-darth vader and the monster

-ARNOLD ON THE STAIRS WHILE THE OTHERS PUSH IT

-ARNOLD HAS A MICROPHONE THAT HE HOLDS

-those LIGHTS

-prologue to act 2

-everyone in the background in making things up again (featured hobbits, star trek, darth vader, etc)

-”yes, YES HE DI-ID” //snaps//

-how arnold says clitoris

-THOSE CURTAINS CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING

-kevin’s happy dancing

-”mickey?”

-INSANE COSTUME CHANGE PART 3

-”SPOOKYTUS”

-genghis, hitler, cochran, and dahmer’s gasps

-MCKINLEY’S WAND

-”CHUG CHUG CHUG”

-those hats

-bobblehead cunningham

-they are lifting elder price

-INSANE COSTUME CHANGE IN MERE SECONDS PART 4

-there were only five elders that checked on elder price,,, what happened to the rules,,,

-”If it's working better this way, he can leave ElderPrice out of it.”

-”SOMETHING INCREDIBLEE”

-how did kevin just walk into their base

-”JUMAMOSI”

-kevin’s last words before losing his virginity to a book

-ONE OF THE UGANDANS’ NAMES ARE MIDALA

-”LIKE THE CHINESE”

-DARLESIA IS ANOTHER NAME

-”the cHINESE ARE THE REAL PROBLEM”

-arnold and naba’s faces so close

-how they had to pour water on naba’s clothes

-”YOU WANT IT MORE, BABY?”

-elders wearing all white

-INSANE CHOREOGRAPHY PART 4

-hana HEYA ZABA NEYBA

-gotswana singing his version of something incredible

-THAT CUT PART FROM I AM AFRICA WITH ZEBRA AND GIRAFFRICA

-arnold’s sunglasses and naba’s white dress

-kevin’s limps

-”super mormon!”

-kevin’s kind of depressing monologue

-BULL POOP

-FINE, FINE!

-orlando (reprise)

-THE MISSION PRESIDENT’S TWO ASSISTANTS SAYING “PRAISE CHRIST” OVER AND OVER AGAIN

-the costumes for the pageant

-that attachable frog

-literally golden plates

-NABULUNGI WROTE THE ENTIRE THING

-//intense sadness ensues//

-hasa diga eebowai (reprise)

-kevin being amazed by the thing

-you and me (but mostly me) (reprise)

-”eaten by lions”

-”it’s an idea, a metaphor!”

-ugandans praising arnold when he enters

-”you can’t beat the undead!”

-connor’s pink suitcase

-elders’ jackets

-INTENSE CHOREOGRAPHY PART 5

-INSANE COSTUME CHANGE PART WHATEVER

-hello (reprise)

-AN ELDER BELTING IN THE BACKGROUND

-THEY CHANGE THEIR TIES

-basically the whole musical is beautiful

#THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS UNDERRATED #I COUNTED SO MUCH #book of mormon #the book of mormon #bom #tbom #elder price #elder cunningham #elder mckinley #nabulungi hatimbi #mcpriceley #churchtarts #cunnilungi #arnaba #mafala hatimbi #elder thomas #elder church

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