two things with Miguel's theory I'm not getting and something everybody else has probably already talked about by now but I need to rant about it because this shit is slowly eating away at my brain:

1. this whole theory was created because Miguel started comparing his situation with Miles's, sparking that whole "don't play a role that wasn't meant for you" attitude, but to me there's a huge plot hole in that mindset - Miles never chose to be spiderman

like the entire reason why those dimensions collapsed was because Miguel went out of his way to travel to another dimension and father a child that wasn't his, that's not comparable to Miles because Miles didn't go out of his way to get bit by a radioactive spider from another dimension, the spider got drawn towards him because of Kingpin's collider and he's been dealing with it in the best way he can. Miles became spiderman because of someone else's actions, which means that for his universe, it was fate. He quite literally couldn't have dealt with that in any other way and it bothers me how Miguel is self projecting onto Miles by insinuating that he doesn't deserve to exist, especially when you consider the fact that there isn't some sort of uniform way that a spiderman is supposed to get bitten, they just get bit a deal with the aftermath.

which then leads to my next point...

2. canon events aren't completely linear, they're single incidents that coincidentally happen to every spiderman

from my perspective, canon events aren't these uniform rules that you have to abide by, they're similarities in the multiverse that just so happen to align because they have a common denominator - someone playing the role as spiderman

like it's not a "every spiderman does this exact same action and goes through these exact same movements and watches someone die in the exact same way" type of thing, it's a "every spiderman watches a police chief they have close relations with die" type of thing, which leaves a ton of room for leniency

(honestly, that by itself contradicts Miguel's "you're not meant to be spiderman" thing because Miles has canon events just like everyone else, which means that being spiderman was his fate, but that's not the main point I'm leaning into)

the way a spiderman goes through a canon event doesn't mean as much as the canon event actually happening, a main example being Miles getting bitten by a spider that technically wasn't his, but still becoming spiderman and going through canon events just like everyone else

so that leads me to ask another question: if all of Miles's other canon events happened without fail, then what did Miguel see in Miles that led him into believing that he'd be able to save his dad if he tried to?

because as far as I'm aware, all of the other spidermen at the very least attempted to save their police chiefs and failed at doing so, they didn't sit back and watch them die like Miguel is tryna force Miles to do: so wouldn't Miguel going to Miles's dimension and fighting him have an effect on Miles's canon event? in a similar way that Miles went to Pavitr's dimension and interrupted Pavitr's canon event by saving his police chief for him?

like obviously I don't think Miguel will go out of his way to save Jefferson, but if Jefferson is supposed to die while Miles tries to save him, then wouldn't stopping Miles from trying to save Jefferson have the opposite effect??

and here's an extra third point that I thought of while typing this all out:

3. if Miguel believes that Miles being an anomaly gives him the potential to break out of canon events, then he's blatantly ignoring the large probability that Miles has the potential to save his dad and everyone in his dimension, not just one or the other

because if Miles has the ability of creating a bad outcome then he has the ability of creating a good outcome, one cannot exist without the other so even if we lean into Miguel's theory, we have to heavily rely on his self projection in order for it to make sense

and this isn't even me getting into the possibility that all of the other spiders likely realized Miguel's theory was off way earlier on (they're super geniuses so I hope they did) but didn't argue against Miguel because of the lingering "what if he's right", that one in a million chance. the fear of the unknown kept them from questioning what didn't make sense and that resulted in them throwing Miles under the bus

wit allat bullshit goin on, I'm honestly not that surprised that Hobie openly supported Miles from the start, that "fear what you don't know" mentality is often used by fascist leaning governments to manipulate the mass populous, and Hobie, living in a fascist apocalyptic society, peeped that shit immediately and dipped from HQ after he made sure Miles was okay on his own

so uh...yeah! Miguel is tweaking and mentally unwell, spiderpeople in general aren't that good with friendships, Miles needs to reconsider his friendship tier list and set some boundaries because that "they won't take care of you and accept you the way we do" line Rio said hit him hard, (I feel like that's an allegory towards blackness and the experience black kids go through when venturing out on our own and finding our place in outside spaces so I might do another post on that but idk), but Hobie's pretty chill so I hope him and Miles become best buds in the next movie that'd be really nice

yup, that's it I think, if you have more to add please do so I'm so hyperfixated on this shit it's kinda insane actually-

(I started typing this out at 7AM and used a fuck ton of colors so I hope this is understandable, if I'm completely off base and misunderstood the whole multiverse thing please call me out cause I wanna understand this shit so badly)

another thing which is more fandom related is that the Byler fandom is just insanely annoying at times. like i love my mutuals and some of the theories and all but idk, the way we have so many stupid arguments abt small things (think this is just a problem with the entire ST fandom but i’ve not really interacted with the other sects closely enough to see those), the way alotta Bylers don’t just ship Byler bcz they like it/dislike Mlvn bcz they don’t + to us it doesn’t work but are absolutely obsessed with hating Mlvn to a stupid degree. i’ve seen alotta ppl (rightfully) clown on Mlvns for saying that all Bylers r ableist misogynists who hate El from the bottom of our hearts and specifically don’t think autistic/ND ppl can do anything and women are the devil or whatever but then turn around and say all Mlvns r homophobes who hate Will for being gay and hate Mike bcz they misunderstand his character and want him to be miserable or whatever as if that’s any better, and then there’s how so many ppl just tag any post they make as “byler”, ranging from yk, actual posts abt the ship to posts abt the fandom/nothing posts abt the cast to random unrelated ST posts that they idk don’t want those horrible evil mildew shippers finding to shit that’s entirely unrelated to Byler/ST (honest to god a few months ago i was scrolling the tag and had to block someone bcz they were clogging the tag with their random life updates) and yeah idk i’m not sure if this is exactly an unpopular opinion since we all talk a lot abt how toxic the fandom is but idk i feel like no one talks abt the over the top Mlvn hate and the annoying mistagging (at least from what i’ve seen) (also sorry this is kinda long TwT)

"...the Byler fandom is just insanely annoying." Full stop. Bylerblr gets on my nerves day in and day out, even though I made my best friends in that mess.

It's the way bylerblr starts shit and then plays victim for me. It's the vaguing people and then acting like they're being attacked when that person responds for me. IT'S THE TAGGING UNRELATED SHIT AS BYLER FOR ME!! YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! And yeah tbh...the mileven hate does get Extensive at times. There's disliking a ship, and then there's devoting your time to antagonizing shippers...like a loser. Atp bylerblr's not much better than the milevens are. Bylerblr is just a different flavor.

The fandom in general is gross no matter where you go, and honestly I'm glad I've detached from it to work on my own analysis niche.

(Also please don't worry about it being long, I love rambling and ranting about shit like this because it annoys me to no fucking end.)

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