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#I'm definitely normal about Lostbelt 6
foolygh0uly · 10 months
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It is is crime that there is no Lostbelt 6 edit of Sugar Song & Bitter Step by Union Square Garden yet (that I know of). Do you have ANY IDEA HOW GOOD THAT WOULD BE? !
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melonisopod · 2 years
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Actually, Woodwose is a real thing! It's a type of hairy wild man commonly seen in Medieval art and heraldry, similar to fauns and satyrs (but hairy dudes instead of goat people). Also, barghests aren't Celtic in origin, they're a type of fairy black dog from Northern England (with the term itself probably descending from Anglo Saxon stuff given that it comes from "ghost" which comes from old Germanic languages). Baobhan Sith are specifically Scottish, Habetrot is a real folkloric figure from the Scottish-English border, spriggans and muryans are from Cornwall, and boggarts come from all over England. There's definitely some odd exceptions - Cernunnos was worshipped in Gaul, and Melusine (as Melusine, not Albion) is from France - but for the most part Nasu seemed to be drawing from fairy lore from the island of Great Britain *specifically*, which is why Knocknarea is the only Irish character. The Seelie and Unseelie courts aren't actually as common in folklore as pop culture makes them seem, and they're actually pretty specific to Scotland, so I can kiiiiiinda see why Nasu opted to not use them? It's definitely still a little odd, but Nasu's not COMPLETELY making things up. (also, side note fun fact, Celtic =/= Irish! There's six Celtic nations - Brittany, Cornwall, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and the Isle of Man - and they each have their own Celtic language.)
I'm well aware Celtic=/=Irish, heck, a lot of what you listed is still Celtic. the problem is that you can't just have a story focused on British-centric fae lore when a lot of 'British' folklore in general is appropriated from various Celtic myths. I use "Celtic" as a general term that, admittedly, is very vaguely defined.
but it comes off as very weird to just eliminate one of the British Isles from your Lostbelt chapter wherein a lot of the lore derives its influence. Like, *extremely* weird. Especially when Nasu has consistently portrayed the Celts as inferior to the British Servants, having them called "airheaded berserkers" in-universe and failing to acknowledge the influence of (mostly Irish) myths that influenced Arthuriana and the KOTR (Fionn is the basis King Arthur was built off of, Diarmuid inspired both Lancelot and Tristan, Gawain arguably takes inspo from Cu Chulainn; Morgan *at least* has a My Room line with a nod to her connection with the Morrigan but it's otherwise treated as a joke or never given credence) and generally leaning heavily into colonialist propaganda about how the British "civilized" the "savage barbarian" Celts.
Nasu isn't completely making things up sure (I know Cernnunos is a god but it's how he's handled in the Lostbelt that comes off strange) but he's taking way more liberties with it than is normal even by typical Lostbelt standards. Probably most glaringly is how the Fairy Knights are just named for entire species of Fae, and apparently "Fairy Knight" itself is going to be translated into "Tam Lin" which is not a title but a specific person.
And it's especially glaringly noticeable with how long we spend in Lostbelt 6, how far it stretches out, you can't just excuse it with "Oh there wasn't enough time to build on myth-accurate materials or do research!" no, we linger on this chapter a good while and most of the existing mythological elements were slapped together cause Nasu thought they sounded cool, with very little basis in myth-accuracy.
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