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pagesofkenna · 2 years

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i think people generally are sleeping on the fact that the first thing we know about Jade and Dave's relationship is that they make music together

like, all the kids play instruments besides Dave, who does digital music making and makes remixes of recordings his friends make - but so does Jade. in canon she's the one who wrote Potential Verdancy and Ohgodwhat, and Explore which she sends to Dave and then he sends back Explore Remix, but Explore is probably a response to Dave's track Rediscover Fusion, and Crystalanthemums was originally something Dave wrote that Jade remixed - and that's only what we see from one page of Jade's music player, it's likely these weren't the first tracks these two kids experimented with, just the ones Jade saved on her favorites playlist

what I'm trying to say is that Jade and Dave making music together is 'photographer Dave' levels of 'initial character trait that got lost in the plot shuffle' and I wish we brought it back more

#mostly because we don't get a lot of character time with Jade ever again after Act 5 and that makes me so frustrated #but also poor girl was stuck with literally just John during that 3 year trip and every time i remember the fact that #the Dave and Rose half of that trip got retconned into something really fun and positive #while the Jade and John half of that trip was always very lonely and isolated and virtually friendless... I get so sad lol #I mean they had Davesprite but honestly he never worked on his issues and would have been such a downer #even when he and Jade dated I don't think they mentioned musicmaking?? davesprite should have been making music!!#anyway where I'm at with this ship is now are the red are they pale i dont care either way they love each other #fricking. having conversations through digital music its so frickin cute #more fanart of Jade with her bass playing different basslines for dave to loop

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rosemary-is-in-pesterquest · 2 years

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tell us about the rosemary/jadave parallels plsplspls

Okay here we go:

I know rosemary and davekat are usually paired up as being 'the same' because they're gay endgame troll-strilonde ships, but in all honesty.... they don't really share anything in common that much? Sure, you've got the initial hostility in the beginning, but that slathers nearly every troll\human ship, so it's nothing unique to them.

However,

there IS a ship rosemary shares a lot of beats with - and it's something half the fandom probably wouldn't even think of making connections with. And that is davejade.

NOW HEAR ME OUT before you unfollow me for comparing rosemary to a het ship (neither of them are even straight either, it's bi4bi), let me explain:

First off, let's start with Jade and Kanaya's view on Dave and Rose respectively. Jade, obviously, initially sees Dave as someone extremely cool and level-headed

This directly parallels with Kanaya's initial conclusion of Rose being exceedingly smart and snooty because of her gameFAQ. But of course, as time goes by, this eventually begins to collapse; the rosemary one more visible on screen, while the davejade isn't that much explored because Jade didn't even get that much screentime in general. Honestly, I'd REALLY like to see people make more content about Jade slowly deconstructing that cool kid facade like Kanaya did with Rose's smart and mysterious kid facade. It doesn't have to be limited to JUST Karkat, and imo, I feel like it'd be very effective if it was someone Dave knew since he was a very young kid.

Dave and Rose are also much more softer to Jade and Kanaya than they are to others.

For Rose, Kanaya unearths this facet of Rose that neither herself or her friends really knew about, and I feel like in a lot of Rose and Kanaya's conservations, especially the ones leading up to the grimdark arc, Rose is strangely a lot vulnerable to Kanaya than she is with Jade, or John, or even *Dave*. And I think this has to do with the fact Rose is actually at match with someone that understands her snark and her high Rick & Morty IQ. She doesn't really have to pretend to be someone calm and collected like with her friends to assure them, and Kanaya doesn't have to pretend to be like this with Rose too.

For Dave, it's really just because he cares a lot about Jade, and outrightly admits he considers his relationship with Jade to be special

he doesn't even call his dynamic with John special, and everyone and their dog knew Dave obviously had a huge crush on him. So this is actually a pretty fucking huge deal.

But then, there's the relationship issues Rose and Kanaya/Dave and Jade both go through, and wow would you look at that, it parallels like two congruent lines.

Jade and Kanaya obviously love Dave and Rose. It's evident, it's clear, it's hard to miss. But Dave and Rose are mentally ill blonde bitches, and they're stubborn as fuck, and that kind of twinges at Jade and Kanaya's extreme care for them.

Let's examine Jade and Davesprite's relationship compared to pre-retcon Rose and Kanaya: even though Jade and Davesprite never got that much screentime, their breakup was enough to draw lines to Kanaya and Rose's liquor issue. Davesprite refused to open up about his baggage, and heavily believed Jade deserved the *real* Dave. And that's where I think a lot of people make misconceptions that davejade can't work because of Davesprite breaking up with her, when in actuality, they only broke up bc Davesprite had self esteem issues and didn't want to hold Jade back from having a happier relationship with the "real" Dave.

Even though Rose doesn't state it bluntly like Davesprite does, Rose obviously believes Kanaya deserves better than having a drunkie for a gf

Rose and Davesprite (which to an extent Dave) both have regrets about how they treated their respective green space players, who obviously mean the entire world to them.

"DAVE: ok if he broke up with you or whatever that was because of his dumb bird issues not my issues DAVE: theres no way i would have done that to you" - Dave when Grimbark Jade told him he broke her heart.

And Jade and Kanaya get exceedingly fed up with it, understandably. Rose and Dave are definitely hard to handle, cuz of Dirk's terrible genes, and especially when they get in the hold of people like Jade and Kanaya who are practically Mitski songs if they were characters, it's just messy; but that's what makes them really great. They're not white bread and milk, and canon hs romance is never smooth sailing, so it shouldn't be a surprise if rosemary and davejade aren't all sappy-no-conflict-what-so-ever. Kanaya is one of a kind to Rose, and Dave is a messy as fuck guy to deal with romantically, you're gonna argue with him a few times because hs characters are complex and I'm tired of people boiling them until they're nothing but perfect and ideal characters.

The scene where Kanaya is just so fucking fed up with Rose's drunk bullshit and starts kicking WV's can buildings, unintentionally connects to grimbark Jade causing havoc on Dave's planet (which also involved WV, my poor man, leave him out of your romance issues). The Grimbark Jade arc and Kanaya's outburst are literally the same.

Dave and Rose's relationships with Jade and Kanaya mimic each other so fucking much, even if this was unintentional on Hussie's part. Davejade and rosemary are both complicated at the surface, but deep down in its core, their devotion is impeccable. Dave also supports Jade in whatever crazy bullshit she does, as a malewife does, funnily enough just like Kanaya does with Rose's dangerous plans.

"TG: youre about to do what youre about to do TG: and im not going to tell you not to TG: i wont do the bullshit troll thing and tell you what youre going to do and then just dare you not to TG: while knowing damn well you will anyway TG: so ill just say TG: whats next is up to you TG: and if later you want to talk about it TG: im here"

I feel like Dave's relationship to Jade also demonstrates his role as a knight to serve really well.

In conclusion of my strawberrykiwi-rosemary essay, Dave and Rose cherish Jade and Kanaya immensely, despite chunks of fandom opposing otherwise. Jade and Kanaya are but weaklings to the strilonde charm of fucked up blondes they think they can fix, and despite their relationship issues, they can't help but gravitate to them. Because they wuv each other and that makes me so

#homestuck #rosemary #davejade #rose lalonde #kanaya maryam #jade harley #dave strider

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