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vonlipvig · 1 month

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Causes of death in the Ace Attorney franchise

Because I'm bored, and what do we do when we get bored? We MAKE LISTS! I went through every character dead character in the canon game universe (so AA1-6, AAI1-2, and TGAA1-2, sorry PWvsPL) and jotted it all down below, so let's see what the most common (specified) cause of death in Ace Attorney is:

Stabbed (x15)

Shot (x15)

Hit by a blunt object (x14)

Impaled (x5)

Poisoned (x4)

Fell to their death (x3)

Hanged (x3)

Car crash (x2)

Strangled (x1)

Electrocuted (x1)

Crushed (x1)

Suffocated (x1)

Asphyxiated (x1)

Heart Failure (x1)

Burned (x1)

Full list with character names all color-coded by game and more specific data below! (Beware of SPOILERS for the whole series!)

COLOR CODE: OG Trilogy - AJ - DD & SOJ - AAI1 - AA12 - TGAA 1 & 2

(AAI gets two different colors since a lot of people probably haven't played AAI2 yet. Sorry, DD and SoJ, you have to share. 'Why don't you do one color for the whole Apollo Trilo-' No <3)

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Stabbed (x15)

(Bruce Goodman, Misty Fey, Rex Kyubi, Constance Courte, Clay Terran, Metis Cykes, Inga Karkhuul Khura'in, Byrne Faraday, Manny Coachen, Horace Knightley, Di-Jun Huang, Mason Milverton, Jezaille Brettª, Odie Asman, Klint van Zieks)

Shot (x15)

(Gregory Edgeworth, Robert Hammond, Turner Grey, Pal Meraktis, Romein LeTouse, Magnifi Gramarye¨, Dhurke Sahdmadhi, Buddy Faith, Oliver Deacon, Deid Mann, Mack Rell, Ethan Rooke, Pop Windibank, Genshin Asogi, Tobias Gregson)

Hit by a blunt object (x14)

(Cindy Stone, Mia Fey, Russell Berry, Kane Bullard, Zak Gramarye, Candice Arme, Paht Rohl, Archie Buff, Jove Justice, Dumas Gloomsbury, Ka-Shi Nou, Isaac Dover, Jill Crane, Jack Cameron)

Impaled (x5)

(Jack Hammer, Neil Marshall, Manov Mistree, Puhray Zeh'lot, Tahrust Inmee¨)

Poisoned (x4)

(Glen Elg, Terry Fawles¨, Drew Misham, John H. Wilson)

Fell to their death (x3)

(Dustin Prince, Jack Shipley*, Akbey Hicks)

Hanged (x3)

(Joe Darke°, Celeste Inpax¨, Dahlia Hawthorne°)

Car crash (x2)

(Ini Miney*, Selena Sprocket*)

Strangled (x1)

(Juan Corrida)

Electrocuted (x1)

(Doug Swallow)

Crushed (x1)

('Di-Jun Huang')

Suffocated (x1)

(Taifu Toneido)

Asphyxiated (x1)

(Duncan Ross)

Heart Failure (x1)

(Azura Summers^)

Burned (x1)

(Magnus McGilded)

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ª: She was stabbed, right? Like, she was poisoned first, but she died from the stab wound first, if I'm correct. Do tell if I'm wrong, lmao.

*: Accidental deaths

^: Natural death

¨: Deaths by suicide

°: Executed (Joe Darke's method of execution isn't mentioned, but if we assume Japanifornia goes by Japan laws, then hanging is the only method of execution used. Probably a higher number of deaths by hanging then, whether you believe some people got executed or not. Also, a lot of the killers in TGAA probably got executed, too? I just jotted down the confirmed cases, but yeah.)

(Also, von Karma died of 'Something'. Who knows. Of being too ashamed, maybe. Sucks to be him).

I probably missed some characters/omitted them, because who knows, it's my list I guess. If I forgot someone important do let me know!

#ace attorney #apollo justice #dual destinies #spirit of justice #ace attorney investigations #aai2 #tgaa #tgaa2 #oh this was FUN to make but god it took so long. unemployed behavior.#do tell if i got something wrong it's possible! but i think mostly everyone is here lmao

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alto-tenure · 1 year

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so a while ago I made a list of how every victim falls in Ace Attorney to determine the most common cause of death. this includes assaults/attempted murders (e.g. Edgeworth being attacked in The Kidnapped Turnabout, DGS1-4, DGS2-2, LV-1)

TL;DR: Stabbing is the most common, followed by gunshot and blunt force trauma.

the dissection is under the cut; spoilers for every game

STABBING: 20

Jack Hammer (Turnabout Samurai)

Bruce Goodman (Rise from the Ashes)

Neil Marshall (Rise from the Ashes)

Terry Fawles (Turnabout Beginnings)

Misty Fey (Bridge to the Turnabout)

Rex Kyubi (The Monstrous Turnabout)

Constance Courte (Turnabout Academy)

Clay Terran (The Cosmic Turnabout)

Metis Cykes (Turnabout for Tomorrow)

Manov Mistree (The Magical Turnabout)

Tahrust Inmee (Rite of Turnabout)

Inga Karkhuul Khura’in (Turnabout Revolution)

Byrne Faraday (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Manny Coachen (Turnabout Ablaze)

Horace Knightley (The Imprisoned Turnabout)

Mason Milverton (The Adventure of the Runaway Room)

Olive Green (The Adventure of the Clouded Kokoro)

Jezaille Brett/Asa Shinn (The Adventure of the Blossoming Attorney)

Odie Asman (The Return of the Great Departed Soul)

Klint van Zieks (The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo)

GUNSHOT: 19

Robert Hammond (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Gregory Edgeworth (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Manfred von Karma (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Turner Grey (Reunion, and Turnabout)

Pal Meraktis (Turnabout Corner)

Romein Letouse (Turnabout Serenade)

Thalassa Gramarye (Turnabout Succession)

Dhurke Sahdmadhi (Turnabout Revolution)

Buddy Faith (Turnabout Visitor)

Colin Devorae/Oliver Deacon (The Kidnapped Turnabout)

Mack Rell (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Deid Mann (Turnabout Reminiscence)

Shi-Long Lang (Turnabout Ablaze)

Ethan Rooke (Turnabout Target)

Di-Jun Huang (The Grand Turnabout

John Wilson (The Adventure of the Great Departure)

Pop Windibank (The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story)

Herlock Sholmes (The Adventure of the Unspeakable Story)

Tobias Gregson (Twisted Karma and His Last Bow)

Genshin Asogi (The Resolve of Ryunosuke Naruhodo)

BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA: 15

Cindy Stone (The First Turnabout)

Mia Fey (Turnabout Sisters)

Phoenix Wright (The Lost Turnabout)

Russel Berry (Turnabout Big Top)

Kane Bullard (The Stolen Turnabout)

Zak Gramarye (Turnabout Trump)

Paht Rohl (The Foreign Turnabout)

Archie Buff (Turnabout Revolution)

Dumas Gloomsbury (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Miles Edgeworth (The Kidnapped Turnabout)

Ka-Shi Nou (Turnabout Ablaze)

Isaac Dover (The Inherited Turnabout)

Jill Crane (The Forgotten Turnabout)

Jack Cameron (The Grand Turnabout)

Kazuma Asogi (The Adventure of the Speckled Band)

Olivia Aldente (The English Turnabout, PLVPW)

FIRE: 6

Robbs (PLVPW)

Muggs (PLVPW)

Kira (PLVPW)

Maya Fey (PLVPW)

Arthur Cantabella (PLVPW)

Jove Justice (Turnabout Revolution)

POISON: 5

Glen Elg (Recipe for Turnabout)

Diego Armando (Turnabout Beginnings?)

Drew Misham (Turnabout Succession)

William Shamspeare (The Memoirs of the Clouded Kokoro)

Newton Belduke (PLVPW)

FALLING: 3

Dustin Prince (The Lost Turnabout)

Akbey Hicks (Turnabout Airlines)

Jack Shipley (Turnabout Reclaimed)

ELECTROCUTION: 3

Maya Fey (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Phoenix Wright (Turnabout Goodbyes)

Doug Swallow (Turnabout Memories)

CAR ACCIDENT: 3

Selina Sprocket (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Sorin Sprocket (Turnabout Time Traveler)

Carmine Accidenti (PLVPW)

SUFFOCATION: 2

Juan Corrida (Farewell, My Turnabout)

Taifu Toneido (Turnabout Storyteller)

EXPLOSION: 2

Candice Arme (Turnabout Countdown)

Apollo Justice (Turnabout Countdown)

CRUSHED: 1

Di-Jun Huang’s Body Double (The Grand Turnabout)

TRANSFORMATION: 1

Hershel Layton (PLVPW)

OTHER NOTES:

I honestly thought blunt force trauma would be the highest when I first listed these. I was wrong!

I know (MAJOR PLVPW SPOILERS) that no one in PLVPW actually died except Newton Belduke, but I still felt as though it was prudent to list them here as victims.

Tasing is a form of electrocution.

Technically, falling and getting crushed could both be forms of blunt force trauma, but “blunt force trauma” is more “something hits you” than “you hit something” imo? I think it’s a distinction worth making.

There are a lot fewer poisonings than I thought. I didn’t know whether to put Diego’s poisoning under Memories or Beginnings, so I put both.

Simon Keyes was pretty inventive tbh

English Turnabout is the only case in PLVPW with a proper name. I generally ID the chapters with court segments as the ones that are the “case names”, which works for every case but the last.

I might have missed some? I know for sure I missed the original Di-Jun Huang, but I couldn’t find his cause of death poking around the wiki. Let me know if I missed any more!

#ace attorney #cw death #tw death #plvpw #aa5 spoilers #aa6 spoilers #aai spoilers #aai2 spoilers #dgs2 spoilers #plvpw spoilers #meta #whoops this took me way longer than i thought it would whooooops

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tobiasdrake · 1 month

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Random list because ADHD. Counting up the myriad ways people are murdered in the core six Ace Attorney games. Since this is a list of murder methods, deaths that are self-inflicted or accidental are not included.

Let's give it up for stabbings; By far the most popular method of killing someone, followed shortly by bludgeonings.

Interesting to note: Murders became a lot less diversified in Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice. Where other games have their killing methods spread around more, nearly every death in DD and SOJ is either a stabbing or a bludgeoning.

Also, let's give it up for Doug Swallow! To date the only murder victim in the core series to be killed by electrocution. What a unique way to go.

Stabbings: 11 - Neil Marshall, Metis Cykes, Bruce Goodman, Valerie Hawthorne, Elise Deauxnim, Rex Kyubi, Constance Courte, Clay Terran, Manov Mistree, Puhray Zeh'lot, Inga Khura'in

Bludgeonings: 9 - Cindy Stone, Mia Fey, Russell Berry, Kane Bullard, Shadi Smith, Candace Arme, Paht Rohl, Archie Buff, Dumas Gloomsbury

Gunshot: 5 - Gregory Edgeworth, Robert Hammond, Turner Grey, Pal Meraktis, Romein LeTouse

Lethal Fall: 2 - Jack Hammer, Dustin Prince

Asphyxiations: 2 - Juan Corrida, Taifu Toneido

Poisonings: 2 - Glen Elg, Drew Misham

Electrocutions: 1 - Doug Swallow

#ace attorney

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brodorokihousuke · 2 years

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September 2022 Ace Attorney Events

this is a very stab-happy month in the AA universe... So many important (and unimportant) murders, oh joy!

As always, this post will contain SPOILERS. This one contains them for:

Miles Edgeworth: Investigations

Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

Ace Attorney: Justice for All

Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations

Ace Attorney: Spirit of Justice (DLC)

Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2

Also note that this post concerns only titles with an English release, so GK2 dates will not be present. All information is taken from the Ace Attorney Wiki’s timeline. I will also assume DGS takes place around 1900 and will use that year as a benchmark.

Heere we go

~1900 (122 year anniversary):

???: Odie Asman is tried in court for the crime of running a crime syndicate, but is found not guilty by a corrupt jury, leaving him free to destroy the hopes and dreams of some poor scientist. Sept. 4th: Susato Mikotoba departs Japan to return to London... Sept. 11th: ...and is shortly thereafter joined by her father Yuujin, and the Japanese Judge Seishiro Jigoku.

2012 (10 year anniversary):

Sept. 8th: The owner of the best AA name ever, Deid Mann, is murdered by Mack Rell, who had apparently received orders to do so from the Yatagarasu. Sept. 10th: Mack Rell’s trial happens. Calisto Yew murders both Rell and Byrne Faraday, proving that no one can ever have a normal trial for the 50th time.

2016 (6 year anniversary):

Sept. 5th: Mia Fey is murdered by Redd White, which sadly cancels the recently planned burger dinner. Sept. 7th: Maya Fey’s trial for the murder of her sister. The blame is eventually moved onto Phoenix Wright, heralding his future of shitty luck. Sept. 9th: Phoenix’s subsequent trial.

2017 (5 year anniversary):

Sept. 6th: Dustin Prince is murdered by Richard Wellington, the man who can’t tell the difference between a fancy baseball mitt and a bunch of bananas. Sept. 8th: Subsequent trial of Maggey Byrde for the murder of Dustin Prince.

2018 (4 year anniversary):

???: Diego Armando Godot wakes from his coma and rejoins the Prosecutor’s Office. ???: Viola Cadaverini’s car accident occurs. Sept.* 12th: Kane Bullard is murdered by The Penguin Luke Atmey Sept.* 13th: The trial of Ron DeLite for stealing the Sacred Urn. The blame is later rightfully passed onto Atmey. Sept.* 14th: Luke Atmey’s trail for the theft of the Sacred Urn. Ron DeLite’s (and eventually Luke Atmey’s) trail for the murder of Kane Bullard.

*Note*: This month is October in the western release, whilst it is September in the original Japanese release, for whatever goddamn reason.

2028 (6 years until):

Sept. 20th: Dumbass Dumas Gloomsbury is murdered by Pierce Nichody. Larry happens. Sept. 22nd/23rd: The subsequent trial of Sorin Sprocket for the murder of Gloomsbury. Sept. 23rd: The marriage of Sorin Sprocket and Ellen Wyatt occurs.

#ace attorney #ace attorney events #september 2022 #phoenix wright ace attorney #justice for all #trials and tribulations #spirit of justice #miles edgeworth investigations #dai gyakuten saiban 2 #the great ace attorney 2 #so many games lmao

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penny-nichols · 2 years

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HI I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING

If Dumas Gloomsbury was jealous of Ellen for becoming a part of the sprocket family.... Did he want to marry Sorin?

Actually wait he probably wanted to marry his sister before she died, huh

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pibt-tm · 4 years

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Ace Attorney CAH combinations, Part 1

[Part 2]

What am I doing with my life?

#CAH #Original post #Ace Attorney #Simon Keyes #Ellen Wyatt #Dumas Gloomsbury #Zak Gramarye #Vera Misham #Kristoph Gavin #Richard Wellington #Marlon Rimes #Apollo Justice #Spark Brushel #The Phantom #Clay Terran #Clonco

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askaceattorney · 4 years

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Dear askrikkaiandhyotei,

The...entire cast!?

Well, Turnabout Time Traveler happens to be favorite case anyway, so why not?

Our first guest is the crooked head servant, Mr. Dumas Gloomsbury. (Might as well get him out of the way first.)

Of course he isn’t. He’s just a disgruntled servant of the Sprocket family who secretly hates them all for what they’ve done to his reputation, even to the point of being willing to murder someone who would become the newest addition to the family, as well as destroying a prized possession designed by her groom-to-be.

So..........yeah. Very likable guy. Thankfully, he’s only on the scene for a brief moment before the titular “time travel” occurs.

That brings us to our next guest, Ms. Ellen Wyatt, soon to be Mrs. Ellen Sprocket, except for the fact that she’s been accused of murder. Like most defendants, she doesn’t seem like the type to kill someone -- she’s calm, mild-mannered, and well put together. Well...usually.

You didn’t expect 100% normalcy in a new character, did you? Heck, we’re lucky to get 50% in this series. Thankfully, the emotional Ms. Wyatt knows how to pull herself together in an instant.

Quite the enviable skill to have, isn’t it?

This beautiful bride-to-be wants nothing more than to be proven innocent so that she can be married to the one and only Sorin Sprocket of Sprocket Aviation. Instead of seeking help from the Wright Anything Agency on her own, however, she’s brought to them by someone else.

That brings us to an unexpected guest from yesteryear (and an uninvited one):

Before getting to know Ellen, we’re abruptly introduced to a brand new Larry Butz with a brand new look! ...And the same old smell, unfortunately.

He introduces “Elly” as his brand new fiance, much to Phoenix’s surprise (and everyone in the known universe’s), but it turns out to be another one of his usual romantic escapades. What is true is that he helped his beloved Elly escape the room she was confined in, and even shook off the police for her. Some might call this heroic...if they don’t know the Butz. As someone who does know him, Phoenix delivers a line from his former mentor:

On the plus side, Larry’s been doing more than chasing women since we last saw him -- he held onto the name he borrowed from his late mentor and became a picture book author.

Not exactly what I’d expect someone in that field to look like, but progress is progress, I guess.

Moving back to “Elly,” she claims to be as clean and pure as her pure-white dress, as well as something else -- something that’s a bit harder to believe.

Like I said, normalcy doesn’t seem to come naturally to new Ace Attorney characters, but her explanation of how she was almost killed, traveled back in time, and saw history rewritten takes the abnormal cake, especially coming from someone as sound-minded as Ellen. Or is she really as sound-minded as she looks?

We can only hope.

I love how she keeps everything she needs for housekeeping in one place, by the way, almost Mary Poppins-style.

Fast forwarding (no pun intended) through some re-introductions to Maya as our co-council and Edgeworth as the case’s prosecutor (something us long-time Ace Attorney fans can’t help but love), we’re eventually introduced to the master himself, Mr. Sorin Sprocket, who has his own personality quirks...or rather, a severe lack of personality.

Like many genius inventors, he isn’t very social (his preferred method of communication being the paper airplane message), and always seems to be lost in his thoughts until someone pulls him back into reality. Even stranger than that, he doesn’t seem the least bit worried about his fiance’s trial. In Phoenix’s his words, he isn’t the easiest guy to wrap your head around.

On top of that, he has his own thing to say about time travel:

He and Ellen apparently both believe in time travel, but apart from that, they don’t seem to have much in common. In fact, having met the two of them, one might think they’re polar opposites of each other, and...well, they’d be right, but as we learn later on, there’s more to Sorin’s silence than just an obsession with his work.

And speaking of obsession...

Our next guest, while also quite abnormal, is a bit more level-headed than the previous new characters. He’s well-mannered, detail-oriented, shrewd, and takes the utmost care of Sorin. Not to mention he's tech-savvy enough to fix a broken radio in a matter of seconds.

I’m surprised Phoenix and Maya didn’t consider the possibility of him being a machine himself, like they did with Lisa Basil.

He happens to have one of my favorite pun names, by the way. Besides being clever and describing him perfectly, it almost sounds like it could be a real person’s name.

While Mr. Nichody does a good job of being the least interesting character thus far, it turns out that he and his “expensive good luck charm” play one of the most important roles in this case. Not to mention he gives the biggest piece of foreshadowing in the episode:

Funny he should say that when there’s a spirit medium right in front of him, but I guess he doesn’t have time for unimportant details like that.

As the story goes on and the revelations start pouring in, we learn about Sorin’s older sister Selena, who was originally going to be the next president of Sprocket Aviation. This, unfortunately, was not to be...

The sudden loss of his sister provides an explanation for his closed-off attitude and interest in time machines, but the mysteries surrounding that tragic day are only beginning.

We also learn that Mr. Nichody believes Ellen is guilty of her alleged crime, and for that reason, he’s strongly opposed to letting her marry Sorin. Could he be right in doubting her, or is there something else behind is disapproval? Ellen doesn’t seem that bad, after all. Just a little...what’s the term?

There you go.

Then comes one of the bigger twists -- it turns out Sorin and his in-laws were responsible for Ellen’s supposed trip through time, which turned out to be an elaborate scheme to make her believe her near-death experience with Gloomsbury was only a dream. Or so says Nichody, at least.

But once again, this is only the beginning.

Even with the possibility of time travel ruled out, Ellen’s guilt hasn’t been disproved just yet. The only hope Phoenix has is the person she claims she saw attacking Gloombury before losing consciousness. Unfortunately, the only suspect he can come up with so far is her fiance, thus introducing the possibility of him having to take her place in prison.

Considering every case up until now has had some form of happy ending, it’d be quite the unusual turn of events for this happy couple to have to be separated whether we win or lose the case...but is it impossible?

As tragic as that possibility might be, it sets up a scene that happens to be one of my favorite kinds -- one where someone is compelled to give up something, even if it’s his or her own life, purely out of love for someone else.

Her words are touching, but soon after saying them, she’s forced to prove just how steadfast her love is for Sorin, even in a cruel twist of fate -- namely, his pointing the blame for Gloomsbury’s death in her direction.

That face alone is enough to break anyone’s heart, but thankfully, that’s where the plot twists just begin. The first one reveals that Sorin went to rescue his bride-to-be in the most bizarre way possible.

Then it turns out he really didn’t, or so he says. Then it turns out he was attacked by Gloomsbury along with Ellen. Then comes one that turns everything he’s said so far upside-down:

It turns out time travel is possible, but not in the way everyone was hoping, or in a way anyone would want -- due to his anterograde amnesia, Sorin “goes back in time” whenever he goes to sleep. This revelation sheds a lot of light on his personality, his compulsive note-taking, and his feelings toward Ellen. Not to mention, it turns out (sheesh, I keep saying that) he was responsible for the car crash that took his sister’s life. But luckily, that's not all his condition reveals.

Someone decided to take advantage of Sorin’s memory being dependent on what he writes in his notebook in order to paint him as Gloomsbury’s murder. Who might that someone be? Well, for anyone who’s read the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (or enough murder mysteries involving rich families), it should be pretty obvious -- the butler did it!

But what motive could a close friend and servant have for manipulating Sorin’s memories? Well, like many an Ace Attorney culprit, he’s not as level-headed as he appears to be.

The rogue butler in this case turns out to be the once-fiance of Sorin’s sister, as well as the one who operated on her after the car accident occurred...or, rather, who almost did.

After some impromptu x-rays and the testimony that wasn’t there, we finally learn the whole truth about Nichody, Gloomsbury, and the plot to exact their revenge on Sorin and his bride. It turns out Sorin wasn’t the only one stuck in the past.

In a beautiful yet tragic symbolism, Selena’s pocket watch stopped ticking on the same day her heart stopped beating, which, for Nichody, was the day time stopped.

This brings us to our final guest, one who could only be here in spirit -- Ms. Selena Sprocket. In Ellen’s words, Selena would’ve said, “Leave this ill will behind. Your time is yours to live.” To an inconsolable time traveler, these words hold no meaning, but just then...

Whether it’s a coincidence or a message from Selena from beyond (which might actually be believable in the Ace Attorney universe), Pierce is reminded that, sooner or later, time moves on.

And on that note, Ellen and Sorin are finally able to move on from this rough patch in their lives and experience their “First Startup of Love.”

Speaking of the happy couple, the one thing that stuck with me about this episode more than Nichody’s epiphany is how devoted Ellen is to Sorin from beginning to end.

With the knowledge that he might forget everything about her, himself, their wedding, and any other experiences they might share together, her devotion to him is ultimately proven to be the real deal. His willingness to risk his life for her also proves that this devotion goes both ways. In the end, there’s nothing, past, present, or future, that can keep them apart. Why, you ask?

And hey, even Larry found it in himself to move on! How about that?

Thus ends a beautiful story, a beautiful reunion of the original characters, and a beautiful finale(?) to the Ace Attorney series. Sure, there was tragedy along the way, but after an ending like that, I’d like to see each of these characters, new and old, take a bow.

Just...don’t throw them any flowers.