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#BEING A GODSEEKER LOVER OVER HERE IS SO HARD
voldheart · 2 months
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Wait wait I just scrolled by a mutual that reblogged your Godseeker-Comic. Is that an AU? Is there more of this? This is so interesting! I have never seen Godseeker turning to be a part of Void. Mostly just always getting killed by it.
I hope you're doing more with this concept in one way or another because this is a really interesting idea!
ouuu thank you 🥺❤️ its not really an au, its more like my interpretation of a continuation to the embrace the void ending!! :D I think most people are not aware that she canonically doesnt die, and take the ending at face value.... its kind of hard to explain for me since even i am not 100% sure what exactly happens lol but i like to think that theyre perpetually linked or fused together in some weird way. and i feel that this result is pretty intentional from both sides.
Godseeker mentions that they seek gods to "clutch at their greatness and immortality", which i assume that with 'clutch' she means that these traits would be shared with the Godseekers through the "Godly focus" thing. And the knight, besides the fact that it proved its strenght against the local strongest beings, it posesses (via the Void Heart) the void under its will, which is literally said to be an "eternal" force that "denies time", ie immortal.
and this union of sorts would be beneficial for the knight as well, as it can go into Holy Beast mode at just about anytime it wants, which is a really awesome powerup if u ask me. That and also (in my headcanon) it does like her. very much :-)
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ganymedesclock · 3 years
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Hey I got question for something in hollow knight that nobody talks about: What is up with the goddamn delicate flowers? Like seriously what kind of flowers they are?? They seem to have the ability to make characters poof since Grey Mourner fades away when her quest is finished and godseeker disappears with the shade lord if given a delicate flower like what exact power do these seemingly delicate flowers have??
I don’t think that the Grey Mourner’s disappearance is specifically tied to the flowers; I personally took it that she’s a kind of undead by the time you encounter her since she visibly sheds dust as she trembles upright to talk to you (and her silhouette in Ogrim’s memory is significantly less... wilty) and bleakly asks why she still ‘persists’, and if/when you succeed in the quest, she states that her grief might eventually end, and then amends that to say that she can potentially ‘end’. In short, very much someone who is supernaturally bound to last regrets, even if she lacks the typical ‘cues’ of a ghost.
What we know about the flowers seems to be that they react dramatically with the void in particular; White Lady has no hostility to it, but she does make an assumption that Ghost wouldn’t hold it so close if they knew what it was. She also tells us that Ze’mer brought it with her from her homeland, wherever that is, a place described as “lands serene”- so mostly of note here is a motif of serenity, of peace and rest- which are even concepts associated with the void itself, counter to the Radiance’s influence. The Traitors’ Child- the proper recipient- has the same void-drippy eyes as several other characters, and only shows up to thank you if you deliver the flower to her grave.
My personal take on the void is that the abyss is a sort of akashic record in some ways; as an ‘emptiness’ it drinks and receives heavily from other entities. It’s the final darkness that accepts everything- in a sense, a kind of afterlife, or at least the threshold to it. We don’t have anything explicit about bug heaven, but it is worth noting Radiance, who keeps people both dead and alive in a state of dreaming undeath, actively hates the void and names it her enemy. No Eyes, who seems to have blinded herself and others desperately trying to escape the plague, speaks warmly of her defeat by Ghost as a “warm stillness” falling over the ghosts she gathered to herself, and asks Ghost to “Take us there, please. A place where light can not haunt us, a place without dreams...”
In some ways, I’ve always read Ghost as a kind of reaper figure, and with the dream nail, they are actively characterized as gathering to themselves the spirits of the deceased. Their power, and their personal composition, is very much tied to the memories, and spirits, of Hallownest and wherever else they’ve been. This may be why implicitly they had some memory troubles and had to refresh themselves by coming back to the Birthplace and dream nailing their reflection- it’s very hard for them to separate from all the clamoring ghosts they carry with them.
In that sense I don’t think the Delicate Flower is a literal void-be-gone in the way that you might brandish a cross to repel a vampire; I think that rather, the Delicate Flower is exactly what we are told: specifically, a funerary token. Something symbolically and practically for laying a spirit to rest, given to you by one restless ghost to try and appease another, so that the two, as lovers, can be reunited in whatever afterlife might be waiting for them. Everyone else who accepts it gains some reprieve from their own ‘hauntings’, whether that’s Oro’s relationship with his siblings and teacher, or Elderbug who remembers his fading town and at least one specific dead friend.
I think the Shade Lord is Ghost in the sense that I don’t think there’s a separate being there, but I think in some ways the Shade Lord is not Ghost in the sense that the extra mass comes from somewhere, and in both endings where Ghost manifests the Shade Lord, they plunge into the teeming mass of all of the Siblings, and emerge out of that. When horns are really the only ‘unique facial feature’ that the vessels have, the Shade Lord has a complex tangle of horns, though Ghost’s are clearly the main/prominent ones. So basically the “body mass” of the Shade Lord is 95% the unquiet dead and Ghost themselves as the conduit / centerpiece is also acting like an unquiet dead being.
Godseeker, as a valid delicate flower recipient and someone who has literally her entire civilization crammed into her head such that it has messed her up body and mind to a staggering degree (that she seems in denial of / rejects, but the ‘tuner workshop’ memory makes it clear just how much she’s suffered to get to Hallownest) is also a highly haunted person, and when Ghost becomes Shade Lord, they basically open a thoroughfare to the void, inside her head. In that sense, they try to escape her, but no longer have a body to do so having cracked theirs open to assume this form; so Godseeker pouring void is basically because Godseeker is leaking restless ghosts.
The delicate flower, thus, doesn’t destroy that (one of its petals does turn black!) but ‘lays this to rest’ by sending it down to the abyss.
I feel like this makes the most sense, since using void magic while carrying the flower doesn’t hurt you at all, and you can actively go swim in the abyss with it in your inventory not affecting anything provided you have the void heart so it doesn’t attack you. None of this prompts the flower to vaporize Ghost- so clearly the flower is not “void-opposed” fundamentally. But it makes a lot of sense if the flower, as a funerary gift to its core, does ‘act on’ restless ghosts, so at a point Ghost no longer really has an active ‘unfinished business’ but is lashing out in a blind chaotic panic, potentially getting disoriented in the chorus of their siblings, that the flower in essence falls onto their grave and quiets them.
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