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#AND AND AND. SNOTLOUT IS ACTUALLY SUPER COOL. HES ACTUALLY HAD SO MANY COOL MOMENTS BUT ONLY WHEN NO ONE IS WATCHING
famderfries · 2 years
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Thinking about how Snotlout has this grand facade that no one really believes that hes cutthroat and suave and cool and manly because thats what his father says he should be, but he will see one (1) dragon that he likes and immediately melt and cry and show hes literally anything BUT his father
#And he always goes back into it too :(#GOD i WISH theyd let him commit to being himself in the third movie :(#like if theyd given him solid developmen and than killed him off it wouldve given hiccup all of the motive to send the dragons away#Snotlout is one of those characters that isnt allowed to change for reasons you csn totally empathise with and I love him so much#Snotlout is GENUINELY a complex character and the movies do him kinda dirty tbh#Like you have this fuckin. swagged out bully who thinks hes so cool and so strong and all that. and he deprives his dragon of sleep-#and attention and youre thinking 'God This guy sucks.' AND THEN YOU MEET HIS DAD AND YOURE LIKE OH. NEVERMIND#and honestly? peak character introduction#Having Spitelout himself be such an absolute asshole who only believes in muscle and strength and masculinity is so interesting#And the whole group hates him!!! and they put up with Snotlout partly because his dad SUCKS.#AND AND AND. SNOTLOUT IS ACTUALLY SUPER COOL. HES ACTUALLY HAD SO MANY COOL MOMENTS BUT ONLY WHEN NO ONE IS WATCHING#AND THATS BECAUSE AROUND EVERYONE ELSE HE FEELS THIS PRESSURE TO BE WHAT HIS DAD EXPECTS BUT AS SOON AS HES ON HIS OWN HES SOOO COOL#like hes genuinely so likeable and soft and caring but Spitelout is such an abusive piece of shit that he doesnt like him for it#this is surface level analysis treated as if its profound but you get the point#heres your monthly snotlout rant#apollo says stuff#snotlout#snotlout jorgenson#snotlout httyd#httyd#how to train your dragon#rtte#riders of berk#defenders of berk#rob/dob#apollo rants abt httyd
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avisisisis · 2 months
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been rewatching rtte
toothless is called T multiple times, but the letter T doesn't exist in the alphabet of this world
i think hiccup was also called H???
hiccup went to the wedding of the man who tried to kill him and his family multiple times. no wonder he thought he could change drago's mind
snotlout is canonically a theater kid
"you're so small and cuddly" "please never say that again"
the twins are really smart, but they're also just stupid
hiccup straight up disappears when he's working on something
heather had a super noticeable crush on astrid
fishlegs got a love interest!! a plus size main character actually has a cool, badass love interest!
it was super hetnormative but it was cute
there was an island full of flying women who were implied to regularly commit cannibalism
hiccup taught all the riders how to fly with toothless, that's so sweet
everyone is a flat earther except for the twins
hiccup almost directly killed a lot of people
and killed a LOT more when destroying their ships
“scalding– cal..ding--" "toothle, plama bla!" was pretty much the funniest part of the entire series
dagur was bullied as a kid by a guy 8 years older than him who literally tattooed an imagine of him beating up little dagur in his arm??? What was that all about
actually we need to talk about how messed up everything about dagur is and about how the things that could've/did happen(ed) to him may be the reasons why he's Like That
just why was he imprisoned by the outcasts??? he didn't do anything to them directly
oof my brain is spiraling. "he loved you" "ig now we'll never know" what do you mean he didn't know if his dad loved him
there's a technically musical episode
tuffnut became hiccup's defense attorney and immediately got him the death sentence
hiccup regularly jumps off cliffs
he also jumped off a boat, with his arms tied and without toothless. just where did he think he was going
snotlout's annoying attitude is actually because spitelout pressures him too much and he feels like he has to be perfect for his dad :((
THE 'HICCUP'S EVIL MIRROR' VILLAIN THEME DONE RIGHT YESS!!!
viggo is the best httyd villain change my mind (you can't, swords at sundown, you may bring backup but i will win on my own)
skrill comeback skrill comeback SKRILL COMEBACK!!!!
"COMEEE TO DADDY"
what is a boar pit???
oh my god i had missed this series so much. it has no right to be this funny
this was my childhood. it has forever shaped the way i am
berserker heather the unhinged >>>
actually good disability rep! yay
hiccup complains about his peg leg pinching him
he straight up cannot walk without it and it is shown many times
"well, there are the benefits of a metal leg" after it got caught in a bear trap
funny moments, like snotlout trying to steal it to use it as a weapon
the jokes!! toothless laughing at the jokes!!! hiccup being so fucking done with the twins, who are always making the jokes!
there's an episode where everyone is so sleep deprived they actually start spiraling
astrid becomes a happy go lucky girl, hugs snotlout and tells him he's handsome
the fucking mood swings snotlout got were insane
the twins were straight up just hallucinating
"i sent them to wash their dragons, how could they mess that up?" cut to heather falling on her face with a bucket full of water in her hands
fishlegs becomes so paranoid, he's yelling at everyone all the time
"don't you know the trapper's trap can trap the trapper?? ...oh gods, i must be losing it, i'm quoting dagur"
YOOOO VALKA!!!! it's so nice to see her
hiccup tried to murder dagur to stop him from getting to toothless, which is scary bc it shows just how far he's willing to go for his bff, but also funny because hiccup. that was not going to work
oh the hiccstrid slowburn, how i have missed you
the twins's made up language
there was a beach episode turned murder mystery and a musical episode held at gun point
hiccup has a whole little speech that he periodically gives astrid to remind her that the twins serve a purpose
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tysonrunningfox · 5 years
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🔥 rtte 🔥
I was just ranting about rtte missing out on a major chance for comedy this morning, and I’ve been wanting to make a post about it anyway, so I’ll do it here: 
This is not a commentary on quality or whether rtte should exist or whether it’s canon.  This is an emphatic insistence that rtte made a big mistake by not just letting Snotlout and Astrid date for like half a season.  
I know, I know, I’m the snotstrid shipper and I’m just being obnoxious with it but hear me out: it would have fixed the whole weird rush of Hiccstrid getting together at the end of season 4 and also, been hilarious and also just dealt with the weird sexual tension that made them hang all over each other in The Longest Day.  
I will explain under a cut, because I have so many adamant feelings about this: 
So The Longest Day happened, and it wasn’t out of the blue (fight me they’re so ridiculous that season) and Astrid is someone who commits once she has weird daytime midnight sex with kisses someone.  And they’ve been spending a lot of time together at the edge and ok, let’s try it, it’s more solid character building than the rest of the show anyway, so just join me on this concept journey.  
One, there’s the hilarious concept of everyone learning that Snotstrid is dating.  There’s a lot of blank stares, a lot of deep confusion at the concept that Snotstrid is capable of holding hands.  Hiccup is like “I kind of thought Astrid and I were dating”, Heather is like “maybe you should have had an actual conversation with your supposed girlfriend about being your girlfriend before she went clinically insane and started dating Snotlout”.  There’s just…so many layers of comedy gold there.  
Two, the crew has to go back to Berk for some reason and Astrid isn’t embarrassed, ok, she’s not, but she really doesn’t want Stoick to know about this yet because she still wants him to respect her and she’s not sure where that stands if she’s not attached to Hiccup.  It involves shenanigans in which Snotlout has to keep the secret that he’s dating Astrid, probably as his dad is a dick and they’re pitted against each other in all the old ways that feel weird now.  Hiccup is probably the one who blurts it out in the end and Stoick is like “come on how’d you mess that one up” and Hiccup is like “apparently there’s a conversation involved and I didn’t have that, but she seems happy and I’m happy for her” because Actual Support, kthx.  
Three, battle tactics change, Viggo is like “this is not how I saw this going” but it’s hard for the riders to maintain formation when the 2nd and 3rd in command are super ride or die for each other all of a sudden.  Discussions about leadership that allow Snotlout to maintain the relative level of composure and grains of maturity that he gained in previous seasons.  
Four, I just thought of this this morning, but Snotlout starts winning at life for like the first time ever.  Any argument that crosses his path can be answered with “yeah, well I’m dating Astrid”.  Yes, it even works on Astrid, because Gods, who trusts her judgement right now, she’s dating Snotlout, she’s probably not right.  
Then, let it fall apart.  Let them have fun and come to terms with the fact that the experience bettered them in unique ways.  Like Astrid made her own decision instead of waiting around (like she does for everything but Hiccup but I Digress), but families are complicated and maybe she just doesnt’ see much of a future to it.  Like Spitelout as a father in law?  That’s a legitimate complaint.  Her parents probably aren’t cool with it and that matters.  For Snotlout, maybe Astrid’s approval was always sort of emblematic and he felt like if he could just get it, he could prove something to the world.  And he did that and he’s still working on himself and it’s confusing.  
Like, here’s the part I couldn’t write because once those two stubborn assholes commit to each other, they’re solid, but again, sticking with the premise, it falls apart.  They break up.  They break up and they have to see each other all the time and then there’s the new hilarity over the fact that neither one of them knows how to fucking act now.  
Like is hitting still flirting?  Astrid doesn’t know, sometimes she dodges hitting him completely and sometimes she hits way too hard.  Snotlout doesn’t understand the concept of airing someone else’s dirty laundry and announces things he shouldn’t, he doesn’t know how to make up for it aside from embarrassing himself.  Astrid is still mad, but appreciates it.  Just…the whole shenanigans of learning to be friends again, instead of oddly escalating moments of sexual tension that made no sense because she was with Hiccup.  Definitely remove that “if you hadn’t shot down Toothless, I’d be marrying Snotlout and have a SICK golden axe” moment, because that made no sense.  
Also, Hiccup comforting Astrid after a breakup?  Hilarious.  He realized how much he still likes her, or maybe it’s a new like, he doesn’t really know but he was happy for her being happy and now he doesn’t want her to be sad.  But it’s weird.  Awkward shoulder pats and offers for a shoulder to cry on and she’s like “I”m not crying, I don’t cry” even as this is probably the first fundamental failure she’s ever dealt with in her life and she’s struggling.  Let him give her space and be delighted when she doesn’t take him up on it, because everyone else is still being weird.  
Like, what if instead of pretending that this bizarre and obvious connection between Snotlout and Astrid wasn’t there, they just had a little teenage fling and both grew as people and then got to maintain that growth and have it strengthen relationships around them?  Like, as it stands, it doesn’t make much sense that Snotlout had come so far in respecting Astrid and then he goes off thinking that the lesbian island is all in love with him.  But if he were newly dumped?  Yeah, he could be going through a “women suck” phase.  Astrid having to rescue her ex when he enraged a bunch of lesbians trying to get over her?  Interesting.  
It would have fixed so much, ok?  And been hilarious.  And no one is ever going to read this giant rtte meta in the year 2019 but I don’t care, it’s off my chest now.  
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