#6) Obi-Wan is honestly just as arrogant aggressive manipulative ruthless self-centered and vindictive as Anakin becomes at his worst
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Jedi Critical/Negativity tag!
In the tags list some things that suck about the Jedi Order in Star Wars. I’ll start!
#anti jedi apologists#jedi critical#tag the reasons why the Jedi suck#I’ll start#1) Obi-Wan Yoda and the Council are partially responsible for influencing Anakin Skywalker to become Darth Vader in the first place#2) recruit children as soldiers#3) most of them are poorly written Gary Stus and/or Mary Sues with no real character development except for Luke and Anakin Skywalker#4) Most of them don’t give any shits about creating collateral damage#5) their anti attachment doctrine is incredibly harmful and toxic to both themselves and the world around them#6) Obi-Wan is honestly just as arrogant aggressive manipulative ruthless self-centered and vindictive as Anakin becomes at his worst#in his ‘ends justify the means’ methods and duels with opponents if not worse at times#but unlike Anakin and Luke Skywalker there are NEVER any real stakes for him being that way or negative consequences when he doesn’t stop#when Luke acts cocky on Bespin in his conflict with Vader after learning to use a lightsaber a few days ago on his own he loses his hand#I mean Anakin and Luke come to distrust and resent him for being a manipulative asshole and he loses people he cares about#but he never gets any warnings about how he shouldn’t be fighting dirty because it makes him no better to stoop to his enemies level#there’s never a stake in the narrative for him never learning to not fight dirty and vindictively on the battlefield#and continuing to justify it as ‘for the greater good’#when obi wan picks fights with enemies fights dishonorably or seeks vengeance it’s framed as ‘cool’#but when Anakin or Luke do it regardless of their good intentions it’s never not framed as something bad that will come back to haunt them#or eventually bring them to deep to the dark side if they don’t learn to stop#7) Yoda is the most unhelpful ‘wisest Jedi’ ever#8) obi-wan and Yoda deliberately deceive endanger and manipulate Luke Skywalker to kill off the fearsome enemy they helped turn his dad into#and never express any sort of remorse to him when Luke calls them out on their bs#one of the main villains can learn the lesson of it being wrong to use luke as a pawn to escape his problems in the last 1/2 hour of ROTJ#but obi-wan and Yoda never do because they’re ‘heroes’ for being on the lesser evil of two very fucked up sides#9) aside from a few individual Jedi most of them are just the lawful evil version of the Sith
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