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jj’s a nice guy (barely) until hes not and i love when writers such as yourself emphasize that (the mean streak!!!!!) jj and rafe both being estps make a lot of sense n their enneagrams are what *actually* make them different (jj being 7w8, rafe being 6w7, also theyre both choatic (rafe evil, jj neutral on the alignment chart) the thing with rafe is that when he gets triggered or faced with adversity he gets tunnel vision and just steamrolls through everyone with only one goal in mind and no morals and all that untapped and undiagnosed mental disorders and his cozy and rich upbringing gives him a sense of entitlement— ward yapping in his ear and just being the antagonist makes you know hes definitely going to do something awful

jj on the other hand def has manic episodes courtesy of his run ins with luke during season 1. being trigger happy, stealing from barry, blowing all the money on the hot tub and generators etc. instead of his restitution, and the general recklessness and impulsivity was more than normal. he gets so mean bc hes scared underneath all that. he really wants to do the right thing at the end of the day but its so hard, especially with the life he has. i think the appeal is his ability to be both self sacrificing for the pogues (pope) and also a bit greedy and wanting his own benefits. hes able to do the dirty work for it and can blow his lid and get active with anybody, like he dgaf 🙂‍↕️ so me personally, id love to bitch out and give him that satisfaction of being able to control, intimidate, and be mean to me bc he needs that itch scratched. he loves the fight and battle for dominance bc thats all hes ever known, like yank n slap me around and get in my face so i say sorry!!!!!!

im so glad you mentioned that jj's barely a nice guy bc...yea he is. much of what we see is him actively choosing to be a good person because it doesnt come easy to him at all. i think at his core (or how he perceives himself at least) he's greedy, reckless, mean spirited and spiteful. he's constantly thinking everything shld be an eye for an eye (topper and rafe jump pope/jj convinces pope to sink the boat, barry robs them/he robs barry, etc etc) because he's used to his existence being a burden, he more than likely grew up thinking he was lucky he even had a roof over his head even though thats the bare minimum.

so i think he really craves moments where he can be the one in control, he's the one causing fear instead of the one being afraid and he's very similar to rafe in that aspect because if you look at rafe he is also very desperately afraid. he's afraid of being alone, of not having family, of not being trusted, of not having someone care for him.

but rafe has the thing jj doesnt: wealth. rafe is rich and wants to get richer and that innately instills a ruthlessness in him bc we know how rich people are. whenever jj's more callous, gluttonous side comes out it feels like a betrayal because he should be better than that but he isnt. these are two people completely ruled by their ID and the reason why jjs able to just barely keep it under control is bc while rafe may have money he doesnt have love but jj does.

and thats why i loveeee exploring his darker impulses because its rare he gets to indulge in them with no consequence. and i wanna let him do that! i wanna let him throw me around and be mean for once like u get me thats why i always write him as sort of flexing his hands when he gets mad because he wants to get physical and that little tick of his is a dead giveaway.

WAIT WHAT where can i find toxic pope stuff

@lionasvault

help….

moony get into toxic!pope.. look through the tags on my blog it’s JUICY

IM GETTIN INTO IT

i can’t find it but i saw a tiktok once of someone listing off people who are or aren’t trailer park hot and at one point they said “when this man washes his truck all the ladies in the trailer park watch him wash his truck” and that’s jj

i know what TikTok you mean and that's so real. jj washing his truck is like a mini holiday because every woman in a 50 mile radius is finding a reason to stop by and talk to him.

the dyke anon made me giggle 😭bc this new lgbt discourse is so annoying like please go outside and talk to #actual homosexuals.. if u tried to explain it to any of them they would stare at u like ur stupid

also ive called jj and pope fags many times i dont know what they expect from me at this point i go to gay bars with 50 yr old gay ppl i live a very different life than some ppl

omg do u know about toxic! pope!!!!

I SAW IT ON ILONAS BLOG

im normal about them (im not)

a lil jj x Pope moodboard for y'all

like when yall have kids you’d be hollering from inside the trailer while he plays outside with the kids,

“Jess! Jesse! Jesse James” because you’ve got to get the kids ready for bed but he’s riling them up outside and playing in the park sprinklers

low-key jj takes to being a dad very well he just loves being the "fun parent" so you constantly have to scream him to cut it out and he's like "damn woman, you aint gotta use my legal name we're coming." and smacks your ass on his way past you

dark!jj does something to me omg i need him so badly. i would fr let him ruin my life

i love dark!jj so bad because he's not at all delusional he has complete clarity about his actions he just chooses to be terrible.

feel like jj would be the type when he’s hitting it from behind like a madman to press his foot down on the back of your head to bury your face into the mattress 🧘🏽‍♀️

jj getting mad with all your whining and squirming and grunting "stay down" with his foot on your head i might just explode actually

i havent seen challengers yet but from what ik about tashi id do the same to jj and john b

the real holy trinity is two bi guys and a fujoshi

https://www.tumblr.com/starfxkr/748936673195360256/domspace-jj-drabble-one-of-these-days-ur-gonna

exactlyyy no shade to all the rafe fics cause i read them and enjoyed them but yall dont wanna piss of jj enough for me. making the silly funny guy lose his shit is the hottest things ever like i need him to have me on the brink of passing out from getting my shit tore up bc i decided to be a bitch!!!!!!!! hes got the range!!!!!!!! n this is why i love your work

jj has so much bubbling under the surface when you don't got a bitch in your eat telling you he's just some silly guy...i feel like him and rafe are parallels on purpose idk it may take a bit longer to get him there but its there and ty so much i really do love exploring the more negative aspects to his personality

i just finished mine yesterday mind you i have an irregular cycle…

someones out to get us

help me why do i love when trailer park!jj is mean

something about an older man being mean to you while youre pathetically in love with him just really hits so different

the way reader ruins herself just bc she loves trailer park!jj 🤦‍♀️ (i’d do the same damn thing too girl)

jj has you looking soooo crazy and he's got years of emotional manipulation under his belt so he just always manages to divert the problem in some way and like....i'd fall for it too if he was fuckin me like that

i mean you're not wrong 😭 he would take me back in a heartbeat; he keeps sending me texts trying to coax me by asking me to come over so he could make me my fav dinner n cocktail n that he'd buy me whatever diamond jewellery piece i was obsessing over atm. the thing w me is .... i straight up just don't like being in a relationship! idk they just feel suffocating to me. the only fun part of dating for me is the beginning/easy part - like getting to know each other, flirting, going on dates, the physical aspect etc. - but look once a guy starts talking ab how he's falling in love n trying to get me to daydream w him ab what our future kids will look like i'm running! i'm a runner like i refuse to have any guy talking crazy like that to me

anyways this duo is veryyy sweet; we have another healthy relationship in starfxkr universe that is not just pup/john b LOL. so ok i'm drawing from a memory here i was thinking kook!pope & kook!bunny are out at the courts playing tennis w each other n it's super fun bc he's playing just as hard as her; he's not gonna give her the win easily so they rly tire themselves out w the game! they hit the lockers afterwards n bunny realizes it's pretty empty in the girl's one so she texts him to sneak in and meet her in the showers to have a quickie!

-🐰

ukw im glad u treat these men how they do us! put him thru the ringer! /j

but i'm finally two for two when it comes to a healthy relationship in the starfxkr universe (foxypope just barely miss the mark because she psychosexually terrorized him) but omg them playing tennis together because she teaches him because yeah he can get the ball over the net he's not bad but she's an actual player!!! and it takes very minimal convincing for pope to come over to the girls locker room this has kinda been his fantasy for years.