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shipping-isnt-morality · 12 hours

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On a somewhat lighter note did you see the Israeli spokesperson at the UN holding up a tiny paper shredder and a tiny copy of the UN charter. and then looking the whole world in the eye as he shredded the UN charter and said “you are shredding the UN charter”

like it sounds like an onion headline. it looks like an onion headline

like no, sir, YOU are shredding the UN charter,

right now, in front of us, you are accusing us of doing the thing that you are doing in front of us,,,

like he clearly planned this. he had props. he had lines. and at no point anywhere in this process did even the tiniest flicker of self awareness enter this man’s head. incredible. it would be inspirational if he wasn’t defending genocide.

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shipping-isnt-morality · 12 hours

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Humans can become genocidal. I think we really have to wrap our heads around that. I was friends with some Israelis before this, and what I have seen arise in them has shaken my image of humanity.

This selfish, defensive evil rose up in an entire people. Such hatred rises up in a people for their neighbors that they become obscured, nothing but a dark, distorted mirror of their own hatred.

Their hatred looks at itself and screams: kill it, kill them, kill kill kill.

#I see this pattern in American Zionists too to a slightly lesser degree #they can get prodded into it pretty quickly though

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shipping-isnt-morality · 14 hours

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A couple thousand young men broke out of a walled and besieged city, attacked the people living close outside the wall and the military, took hostages. And then a nuclear power that purports to hold liberal values started dropping multi-ton bombs on that densely populated, walled city in retaliation.

which instantly cemented for me that maybe these people broke out for a reason that wasn’t an irrational and insatiable desire to get at the Jews like I’d been led to believe. maybe it had something to do with the wall they broke through, or the fact that nobody seemed too surprised Israel would jump straight to flattening entire urban neighborhoods. And as soon as you start refusing to dehumanize Arab Palestinians, Zionism falls apart.

I’m back (foff is an inspiration as always) to talk about Palestine and Zionism. Because let’s be real I never stayed about shipping and fandom on here anyways

also idk how the ziobots are on tumblr but on Twitter they’re an unabashed nightmare so maybe it’s easier to have these discussions here

Anyways I was kind of passively a Zionist until 10/7 and now I’m fervently and devotedly anti-Zionist and seeing as there’s a genocide being perpetrated by America and Israel going on right now, it’s kind of all I’m thinking about and researching. And I want to talk about what I’ve read, and seen, and heard, and how I got here. Why I think we all need to get here, as quickly as possible.

Every point everyone had ever made about 9/11 having staggering consequences on our world has come home to roost. My own family is spouting rhetoric that is more dehumanizing than I thought them capable of. Reading the stages of genocide makes my stomach turn over with recognition. My gore trauma response, paralyzing for the entire fall of last year every time I opened my phone, is now blunted to all but numbness.

I saw the inside of a child’s skull on my phone screen this morning. A father, pinned down, eyes wild, screaming and screaming and screaming and screaming for his children.

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I hope someday soon I’ll have it in me to talk about fandom again. But for the moment, I want to talk about Palestine.

#gaza #oh good your type are here too

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shipping-isnt-morality · 2 days

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I’m back (foff is an inspiration as always) to talk about Palestine and Zionism. Because let’s be real I never stayed about shipping and fandom on here anyways

also idk how the ziobots are on tumblr but on Twitter they’re an unabashed nightmare so maybe it’s easier to have these discussions here

Anyways I was kind of passively a Zionist until 10/7 and now I’m fervently and devotedly anti-Zionist and seeing as there’s a genocide being perpetrated by America and Israel going on right now, it’s kind of all I’m thinking about and researching. And I want to talk about what I’ve read, and seen, and heard, and how I got here. Why I think we all need to get here, as quickly as possible.

Every point everyone had ever made about 9/11 having staggering consequences on our world has come home to roost. My own family is spouting rhetoric that is more dehumanizing than I thought them capable of. Reading the stages of genocide makes my stomach turn over with recognition. My gore trauma response, paralyzing for the entire fall of last year every time I opened my phone, is now blunted to all but numbness.

I saw the inside of a child’s skull on my phone screen this morning. A father, pinned down, eyes wild, screaming and screaming and screaming and screaming for his children.

…

I hope someday soon I’ll have it in me to talk about fandom again. But for the moment, I want to talk about Palestine.

#free palestine #gore cw #gaza genocide

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shipping-isnt-morality · 8 months

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I’m gonna do a more formal archive post soon!! This blog isn’t coming back, but I want to come back to political and philosophical writing, and I might start by compiling my favorite parts of this blog into a neater and more readable format in a more permanent & professional place.

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shipping-isnt-morality · 1 year

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Hello, I'm desperate. I JUST got into the Pacific Rim fandom and apparently there's a whole lot-o people who talk about a fanfics by a person called CleanWhiteRoom, but i CAN'T find them ANYWHERE!!! I stumbled across the archive tumblr which led me to cleanwhiteroom net but it isn't letting me download the zip file. I don't know what they're about, but everyone talking about them has me in NEED of all of their Pacific Rim fics. Then I saw your old twitter tweet and now I'm here

breaks my inactivity because I have BEEN YOU, my friend, and you and everyone absolutely deserves to experience CWR

The source I’m most aware of is the CWR archive! She’s done an incredible job making a drive folder of pretty much all their work:

Hit me up again if you’re not able to access that tho and I’ll try to think of something!!

(A little note, also: Designations is incredible and so is all the spin-off things, but if you enjoy it, don’t let not knowing Stargate stop you from reading Force Over Distance. I didn’t, I read the whole massive thing, and it was Easily one of the best things I’ve ever read and works perfectly well as a stand-alone novel; it includes all the background you really need.)

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shipping-isnt-morality · 2 years

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i AM back on tumblr but I haven’t decided yet whether I’m returning to these blogs

maybe it’s been long enough that I can talk more about why I stopped? I dunno if I have the will to engage in fandom discourse anymore

#it was partly internal to the community #and partly external politics just hammering me until I didn’t have the energy for this anymore #and partly just not being in the fandoms where most of the bullshit is happening

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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tax filing status: no, I’m too beautiful

your doggo is a good boy but does he pay taxes???? CAN WE TRUST HORSES TO PAY TAXES

Sheldon doesn’t need to pay taxes bc he’s beautiful

and I think that I would only trust horses to pay taxes on a case by case basis, some of them are just born ready to commit tax fraud so you gotta keep an eye out

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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I mean, yeah, genetic diversity in a population is so important that almost all animals and even some plants have an incest “taboo” (looking at you, apples). But given that, by all appearances, the incest disgust response is innate, population-level genetic outcomes are kind of a non-issue, don’t you think? Incest isn’t going to become common enough to affect the gene pool, at least not at the kind of rates we’re talking about.

The exception I can see is normalized cousin incest, or other family 1-2 degrees removed from immediate; the innate taboo’s less strong (as evidenced by it having more cultural variability), so in small populations over many generations that can become an issue. But that’s a problem of royal families and space colonies, not modern countries.

My grandparents were cousins once removed or something. They didn’t even realize it until they were married, or think it was more than a funny coincidence. That’s just what happened in rural areas with small communities before travel and communication was as fast and easy as it is now. Guess I’m an abomination though. What is reality compared to modern sensitivities?

I did some google searching because I’m bad at math and it turns out that pedigree collapse is statistically guaranteed within 800 years, since at that point the number of ancestors would exceed the population of the earth at that time

we’re all problematic. oh no

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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Oh i saw that! The other theory I saw was that Connor is a surrogate for hank’s dead son, and so.... yeah, I guess that means it’s canon and the only way to interpret it, and also, that that even counts as incest???

Like I said the logic is FASCINATING, where it exists. I’ve seen at least one try to pull off the idea that, because quasi-incestuous abuse is a thing (by those in intimate caretaker roles of children, e.g. a nanny), ANY relationship with someone who is or was in a care or mentoring role is incest. (Yes, this was someone trying to argue “Shiro mentoring Keith makes it incest.”)

Which, like..... at least they tried, I guess? Even if that makes NO sense

My grandparents were cousins once removed or something. They didn’t even realize it until they were married, or think it was more than a funny coincidence. That’s just what happened in rural areas with small communities before travel and communication was as fast and easy as it is now. Guess I’m an abomination though. What is reality compared to modern sensitivities?

I did some google searching because I’m bad at math and it turns out that pedigree collapse is statistically guaranteed within 800 years, since at that point the number of ancestors would exceed the population of the earth at that time

we’re all problematic. oh no

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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I think as an intellectual exercise, the question of “why is incest wrong” is super interesting because.... yeah, as risks of genetic mutation go, it’s similar to a lot of things that have a lot less taboo surrounding them.

So if we want to have a coherent definition of the harm of incest, we have to look at harm it does outside of that, and then we get into just like.... massive shades of grey. Because, yeah, I think I agree that thorki is more problematic than Luke/Leia, but.... why does that ring true? Because sleeping with someone you see as truly family is so taboo?

The best I’ve really been able to do is “because, culturally, we have a vested interest in keeping a strong taboo against close family members having sex, not just because offspring but because healthy family relationships”.

But then tbh consensual incest is so rare and so poorly studied that it’s hard to say whether a loosened taboo would.... actually hurt. Like, my gut says it would, but I don’t really have any data backing that up. Abusive incestuous relationships tend to harm the whole family (for example: a parent abusing a child can lead to siblings abusing each other) but.... there’s not really any research on consensual. In the real world it just doesn’t happen that often. (And like, no fucking wonder: if I think of this in relation to my own family my skin crawls. The revulsion is REALLY strong.)

but then!! we get questions of ADOPTION and FOSTERING and ESTRANGEMENT and what we do when blood relatives don’t see each other as family, or non-blood relatives DO, and how do THOSE things play out? Like, I saw someone the other day refer to his husband as “like a brother separated at birth.” And like..... step-siblings?

sometimes I sincerely wish that some of these people with really expansive definitions of incest would like talk to me about how they got their definition and how they justify it, because once genetics exits the picture.... I agree that there are boundaries, but where they are and why is really interesting!

but I’m about 90% sure their answer is “incest is whatever feels gross like incest” which is. Boring

My grandparents were cousins once removed or something. They didn’t even realize it until they were married, or think it was more than a funny coincidence. That’s just what happened in rural areas with small communities before travel and communication was as fast and easy as it is now. Guess I’m an abomination though. What is reality compared to modern sensitivities?

I did some google searching because I’m bad at math and it turns out that pedigree collapse is statistically guaranteed within 800 years, since at that point the number of ancestors would exceed the population of the earth at that time

we’re all problematic. oh no

#incest cw #anyways

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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just saw my first anti whining about jonelias from the magnus archives being problematic and ‘justifying abuse’ and honestly i am just deeply deeply tired of this. i feel guilty as while i’m glad for the creator that tma has become more popular, it is so frustrating to see this purity culture intruding into what was a space where people were free to ship whatever they liked. plus, now you are apparently a bad person if you like elias.

I was talking abt this in our tma group chat the other day bc like. what?

luckily I think the bulk of tma’s fandom is and always will be older and mostly not looking for super pure content, because how could they be?

I’ve blocked maybe 10 people and I haven’t seen any more of those takes since, but maybe I’ve just gotten lucky

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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Yeah. The irony is that I did end up kind of liking that ship later, when it was written as unhealthy and a bit twisted, and even wrote fic of it that she liked on AO3. But she and her friends taking my meta of “the canon is depicting abuse” so incredibly personally meant that we never had a chance to bond over the ship.

(Tho, People also got angry at me for tagging that fic with “abusive behavior” which made me want to rip my hair out since the fic contained forced drug use and pressuring his partner into life-threatening situations which like could not be ANY more blatantly abusive? I feel? oh my god how am I still so irritated about this years later)

On ending friendships with antis/fanfom assholes

So I get a lot of asks abt friendships fracturing in the current fandom, and feeling bad about being unable to just “block and move on” when dealing with people they know. and I have an experience with that that i think might help people feel less alone in it?

So: once upon a time a few years ago I made a new friend in a fandom I was really excited about. We were both writers who were active in the still-small community and who loved each other’s work. In the course of about a week we added each other on skype, started collabing on a fic, started a new edit trend in the fandom, and talked basically daily.

And then she asked me to edit a story, in which a character that I read as an abuser gets together with his victim and they are much happier and sexier together than the main ship.

I tried at first to just say I didn’t like the ship and didn’t think I was the person to edit it, but on pushing admitted that I read him as an abuser in canon and wasn’t comfortable with how dismissive her fic was of his behavior. She took this.......... poorly. Basically said I was accusing her personally of being an abuser, because she related to this character, and that I was trying to manipulate her into only writing the pairing we had in common. I said “no, I just don’t want to beta this fic for you”, and we..... sort of dropped it.

But - and you may have noticed this about me - I can’t leave a topic well enough alone if my life depended on it, and her insistence that I was reading him as an abuser to spite her annoyed me, so I wrote a post breaking down basically everything the character had done so far, how his ex acted and spoke around him, and how those look a lot like abusive behaviors and trauma. And... well, let’s just say just about everyone in the tumblr fandom saw it within the next couple days.

I spent about 12 hours getting positive responses and “I don’t agree but I appreciate the thought you put into this”. And then his stans found me.

I.... don’t think I need to go into how this went? We know the song and dance; I had to shut down my askbox, locked my social media profiles, stopped accepting Skype friend requests, and endured a ton of people telling me that I was A) calling them, personally, abusers or B) was trivializing abuse and was the worst kind of tumblrite or C) should just choke and die already. Sometimes all three, it was a very fun..... 72 hours or so.

Anyways. After the initial backlash, there was a group of about 8-9 people who were still stubbornly going after me and anyone associated with me on every platform they could find. (I would find out later that they made a group chat and all became friends over their hatred of me, which is kind of flattering and kind of fucking obnoxious.) One charmingly implied, after I admitted to being an abuse survivor, that either I was lying or I deserved it. My new friend, who’d been mostly silent through all this, was mutuals with all of them.

I went to her with their behavior, and she said, essentially, “it’s not my business, you said stuff that really hurt them” and I said “I literally wrote meta, it is not my fault that they took it this personally. I’m a real person, this character they’re defending isn’t.” and she.... wasn’t willing to talk to them, or ask them to stop, or even just not share my content with this group (god, remember when tumblr’s blocking features were even worse somehow? Me too). After about a week and a half I decided I had to just block her too and move on with my life, because I was miserable and anxious and wanted to unlock my damn accounts.

It hurt. I guess that’s what I’m getting at. I knew her for maybe 20 days total, and we barely spoke for the last 10, and yet it still hurt, y’know? It can really, really suck, to have people you connect with turn out to be totally willing to hurt you, or leave you out in the cold, because of an opinion about fiction. If I was younger when this happened, I may well have backed down on my opinion to save the friendship. As it was I had to get a LOT of reassurance that I hadn’t done anything wrong and didn’t deserve what happened.

This isn’t something with a grand solution. It sucked, I got hurt, I had to end a friendship for my own health and lean on my other friends while I got over it. If I’d known her for months, or years, I can’t imagine how much worse it would have been. “Block and move on” is ok advice when it’s strangers shouting at you; it is infinitely harder when it’s mutuals, friends, people you trust and like doing this to you. I have nothing but sympathy for people who struggle with leaving friends because those friends are being assholes about fandom opinions. Cutting friends off is hard, of course it’s hard, and it’s a personal decision. Just because it’s technically easier to cut someone off online doesn’t mean it’s emotionally easier. Be kind to yourself about this stuff.

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shipping-isnt-morality · 4 years

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you do get that in that story, *you* were in the wrong too, right?

I mean, I don’t think I behaved perfectly, but how so

Like, let me be clear: I wasn’t telling her “them or me”, she was sending my content to them, was in their group chat, and essentially agreed with them.

She was not personally telling me to choke and die on every platform they could find me on, but she was happy to hang around people who did, and help them have greater access to me, because she believed their feelings about the meta I wrote justified their behavior

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