I really can't get a read on the Josh situation. I believe he is gay and with Mikey Hess and that he and Karlie are in a lavender marriage that is mutually beneficial. I just can't tell if he's, like...a villain here. The Kushners are villains, but is Josh? I thought so but something about it all makes it seem like Taylor and Karlie must find him to be a reasonable business partner at the least. He is also serving as major cover for "Robin," so I'd find it surprising if Taylor and Karlie thought he was evil incarnate. I have no idea at all, so I was just curious what you thought.

I’m in the exact same boat as you—all I can say is that this entire saga has helped me to realize that things and people are never just black or white or good or bad. It’s all different shades of grey forever

I saw someone talking about bigger than the whole sky and just wanted to chime in because it’s pretty much confirmed that it’s inspired by Taylor’s friend claire winter, who was very open about her miscarriage and how upsetting it was. You can check out her ig, she posted about it

Yup we discussed this back then that it’s about Claire’s loss

FOREVER

Just saying.

Mikey and Misha have two kids "together", so I assume that Joshua is definitely involved in their lives in some fashion

Yes agreed

The media can run this piece but possibly being queer is disgusting and off limits…

https://nypost.com/2024/04/27/entertainment/taylor-swift-travis-kelce-will-likely-be-engaged-before-next-nfl-season-sports-bettors/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost

It’s A-ok when it’s not gay!!!

since we've opened the baby can of worms... do you think it's possible there's another set of kids? what i mean is: i think the kids we see publicly are possibly jk and mikey's. or maybe from another family member. and the kids who are actually hers are never seen/she covers their faces

I have dabbled in that thought too—after she released Robin and the Moots here have found so many Karlie posts directly tying Levi to that song, I do believe Levi is tied to Taylor

I do think it’s possible JK and Mikey have their own kids somewhere in the mix

It’s all so foreign to western society’s idea of how a family should be structured and function so I think whatever arrangement they agreed upon we have to trust because it’s their lives and they know what they are doing—it’s none of our business how they handle explaining things to their kids—and that’s not directed at you, that’s directed at myself because I used to be very judgmental about that in my head

I think that Levi is Karlie's, and I think Elijah is genetically Taylor's but Karlie carried him. I imagine they'd have the same donor. Listening to "peace," "evermore," "labyrinth," "bigger than the whole sky," and now "Robin" have led to my believing certain things about how their birth journey went.

Interesting theory!

If you could have Taylor explain one of her songs to you, which one would you pick? She has to honestly answer all your questions about it and go through it line by line, telling you her references/inspiration and exactly what everything means.

Omfg what a question!!!

Prior to TTPD I would’ve said Ivy because she never addressed it and how it’s about a secret lesbian love affair in the 1800s but now I’d say

WAOLOM because I wanna know exactly who and what they all did so I can scream at the sky with her. So many Hollywood children have kept these awful secrets for decades and that absolutely eats away at your soul until you can be free of it

This is such a cool question, others please reblog I wanna see your songs too

I think whatever parenting situation surrounds the kids is probably too complex to parse from where we're standing and that's fine. I for one believe Karlies in a lavender marriage and those babies probably have four parents give or take.

That’s a fair assessment

We may never actually know! But Taylor absolutely staked her claim with Robin which is something I’ve always been hesitant about in my head

@spade-riddles has got it!! These are Taylors darkest confessions of the trauma she’s endured but she is also telling us she’s with the love of her life and her kids

Spade I’m not sure if anyone else feels this way but has anyone else had to stop listening to the album? The story it’s telling is so devastating it was sending to me to such a dark place in my mind. It’s a beautiful album but so fucking sad when you actually understand it. I hope our girls can follow through with their plans this time and nothing gets in their way. I hope they know we’re all rooting for them no matter what 💗

Just remember that they are thriving privately.

If you could have Taylor explain one of her songs to you, which one would you pick? She has to honestly answer all your questions about it and go through it line by line, telling you her references/inspiration and exactly what everything means.

Omfg what a question!!!

Prior to TTPD I would’ve said Ivy because she never addressed it and how it’s about a secret lesbian love affair in the 1800s but now I’d say

WAOLOM because I wanna know exactly who and what they all did so I can scream at the sky with her. So many Hollywood children have kept these awful secrets for decades and that absolutely eats away at your soul until you can be free of it

This is such a cool question, others please reblog I wanna see your songs too

I think Taylor is more like an additional step parent to them. At that ceremony Ch.K was holding Levi and I don't think her would've done that if JK wasn't his parent also.

Agree to disagree—it was in public and Levi is supposed to be their grandkid….that was absolutely a PR stunt in the most hilarious fashion—like a politician kissing a baby for the pics “I can’t be an awful human being look at me holding this baby! “

If you could have Taylor explain one of her songs to you, which one would you pick? She has to honestly answer all your questions about it and go through it line by line, telling you her references/inspiration and exactly what everything means.

Omfg what a question!!!

Prior to TTPD I would’ve said Ivy because she never addressed it and how it’s about a secret lesbian love affair in the 1800s but now I’d say

WAOLOM because I wanna know exactly who and what they all did so I can scream at the sky with her. So many Hollywood children have kept these awful secrets for decades and that absolutely eats away at your soul until you can be free of it

This is such a cool question, others please reblog I wanna see your songs too

I do believe Taylor's involved with Levi but Levi's eyes are brown/hazel. There are pics online where that's visible.

That makes sense—Karlie carried the babies so we don’t know what the donor situation is unless they share it. There’s definitely some very convincing theories that have been shared with me

https://www.tiktok.com/@mrcharliebird/video/7362265078860631338?_t=8lrqSKvSp8p&_r=1 wow this video

Well now I’m crying again

Congrats to the Beautiful Couple!!!

Maybe that's why we don't see Levi's eyes. It's blue haha

Someday maybe the mutuals will post their PowerPoints on the bebes—they have gathered so many insane clues and evidence regarding this. I really commend them because the kids have been the one part of this story that I haven’t felt comfortable discussing openly—because of that I compartmentalized a glaring elephant in the room in regards to a possible reunion. I haven’t discussed it because I had no clue how they would handle it, but Taylor releasing Robin truly confirms y’all were on the money and they have come to an arrangement they are comfortable with as a family in regards to keeping/revealing the secret in their own time