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are you okay? no firey and leafy left on a boat to make their own dream island in an effort to repair their lost but slowly mending relationship and make up for lost time
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BFB in handling abusive friendships
BFB may not seem like the most serious show, but it handles serious topics much better than most shows are able to do.
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what are your thoughts on fireafy?
Fireafy, regardless if it’s a shipping or a friendship, is a well-done relationship between two kind individuals. I do enjoy them together, platonic or otherwise, but let me explain why.
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I figured everybody would go and draw Cloudy for this one so I went and did something different. I like it, even if it took a few days.
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Happy Birthday Leafy!!!!!!!! This is a sort of sequel comic to last year’s post.
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So I heard it was a certain leaf's birthday
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Thoughts on Darkness of Dragons? (Except the ending, of course, since you’ve already talked about that)
Dang it. You mean you don't want me to do another lengthy rant about how much I hate that ending? Well there goes my plans for the evening.
JK that's a fair enough question.
Okay... Oof. Trying to think of things that I don't immediately hate in the book.
Well first off I feel like the B plot was kind of unnecessary. Like I think it's entertaining enough but most of the book, the last book in the arch mind you, is focused on a side quest that once again is focused on the Sandwing throne. Can we not?
If we were going to do this we should have done it towards the beginning of the arch and not the end. Like I totally forgot Onyx even existed and honestly, she's just not that interesting of a character to me. I mean she SHOULD be but... She's not. She's just not. In fact, she had all of the trappings of characters I HATE. A self-entitled brat who doesn't appreciate any of the good in her life.
Yes. It sucks that she was self-exiled with her mother. Yes it sucks that she couldn't fight for the throne (although she would make a terrible queen. Probably better than the three sisters but not by much.) But you know what I'm just going to say it she was better off than most dragons during the war. She had a mother who genuinely loved her. She wasn't forced to fight in a conflict that would have ended terribly with whoever won and she didn't grow up orphaned in the streets of a place like a scorpion Den.
I'm not the type of person who likes to go "your problems don't matter, people are dying" because that's a super damaging psychology that honestly potentially f'd me up for years because I refused to seek psychological help because of that reason.
But you know what if you act self-entitled and bratty about it than I am going to absolutely bitch slap you back into reality because screw you. Sorry. Just ugh. I hate these characters who get away with crap because of sad backstories or whatever. Especially since she's one of the few in this world who actually had a decent parent willing to put everything on the line to protect her. Ugh. Sorry. I never realized how much I really disliked Onyx until just now.
On other stuff.
Vulture and Cobra were fine. That's kind of all I have to say for them. I don't think they were developed enough honestly, I think they could have been but honestly, I don't think I can remember a single line out of them besides the famous line where Cobra approves of qinter. Besides that not a single line. I think they could have been more interesting but I think Sutherland squeezed herself into a corner trying to fit in this sidequest as well as the ending. Rip. I love you Tui but you write yourself into corners when it comes to endings.
Other things... Moonbli is still underdeveloped. We're told that stuff happened but it was barely even a flashback and Moon is blander than bland in this book. That is when she's not making morally wrong choices and treating some serious trauma like it's all just a misunderstanding that can just be talked through. (Winter deserves better. The vase scene pissed me off so much in the fact that he was painted like a villain. I think it was honestly just so Sutherland can make Moonbli look like the best option. It... Really doesn't. )
Let's talk about Winter. I love him in the beginning. Even though it is disturbing to see him brainwashed (again. F Moon, Qibli, and Kinkajou for not taking it seriously enough. Qibli started to but threw it out to play knight in shining armor. Was Winter completely right in this scene? Oh heck no. Breaking stuff and yelling is never okay. But treating something like brainwashing like a joke or a misunderstanding is also not okay and I'm sorry I'm taking his side in this argument. They all should have apologized but nope. We needed that time for the Onyx side plot. Yay. -_-)
Anyway. Sorry back to Winter. Like I was saying. I like him in the beginning he and Qibli have pretty good chemistry with each other that you have to acknowledge even if you don't ship it yourself. I can listen to the weapon box scene over and over again just because the dialogue and character interactions are great.
Also, the scene, when they get to the Scorpion Den and Winter, admits that he has a lot to learn about the world. Just mwah. Absolutely wonderful. And once again why do all the really good character-building moments for these two happen with each other? And we're not supposed to ship it?! Excuse me?!
*Cough* anyway. Side note rant. I really wish that we could have seen the scene where everyone is told about Winter's experience in the ice Kingdom.. and once again I wish it was taken seriously because it's not. Which is upsetting because his PARENTS literally set his BROTHER to KILL him to take his spot on a wall. And it's treated like an in-joke. I mean I'll give it some leeway because even Winter almost jokes about it and I myself will joke about traumatic stuff after they happened as a coping method but I don't know. That was such a big thing and I wish it was taken more seriously by everyone because he literally sacrificed everything to come back only to get screwed over. This is why I have hang-ups with the Jade Winglet. Except maybe Turtle and Peril. Bless em.
Also, why did Smolder and Winter not meet? Golden opportunity and you blew it, Sutherland!
Sorry again. Winter is my child at this point.
Anyway... Yeah. How about I talk about other characters.
I love Qibli as a POV character. He is such a fascinating protagonist. But I do have some hang-ups. Primarily.
Starting a sandstorm that actually killed some dragons. Did everyone forget the dragons sucked up in that with very little chances of survival? And then Thorn barely gives him a slap on the wrist. Um... What? So Winter breaks a vase, end of the world. Qibli starts a friggin deadly sandstorm? Oh, that rascal!
Hmmmhmmmm....
Okay. That's fine and doesn't feel dirty at all. Psssh.
On a positive note, his relationship with Darkstalker is absolutely fascinating and should have been a more primary focus overall. I don't know how she could have fit that in but it should have been built up way more. I mean there was already groundwork in Talons of Power where Darkstalker says it's a good thing that Qibli is not an animus since it would make things more difficult (or something like that anyway.)
Darkstalker was interesting enough. A bit rushed but... There's not much you can do since he only gets a third of the book actually focused on him (at least that's what it feels like. Whatever amount it was it was not enough!!!)
Anemone was interesting. From the little, we see of her which is a shame since the ending of ToP was setting up some pretty interesting stuff for her. Also, I know Turtle was in the dungeons for most of it but seriously. You bring him back and give him his powers and no big scene of his relief after that panic attack he was having after ToP? Nothing? Okay. If that's how you want to play it.
Peril has some good moments in the beginning but is pretty much a nonentity besides roasting some Nightwings.
Oh. Let's talk about the battle. There's some interesting stuff that happened here and some not so great stuff. And I get to talk about Winter more.
The death of Narwhal and Winter joining the battle should have been focused on a little more. Especially since the Jade Winglet act so betrayed after all that crap they pulled. I'm sorry. Narwhal was a right bastard but that's still Winter's father. And oh guess what, that's still Winters brother up there about to go into battle. Not to mention his tribe that he still cares about even though they're pretty shitty to him he still cares. And F you guys. He already gave up more than all of you and all you've done is make fun of his trauma or ignore it. I know he's an asshole, trust me I KNOW, but so far he's put more effort into this. Literally, self exiling himself to potentially never see his home again. What did you do? Oh, go on a field trip that your queens either approved of to an extent or would probably just give you a slap on the wrist. Yeah okay. You can sit on your high horses and act better because fighting is bad. Aghhhhhh!!!!
Side note. I know I'm not being fair. But I don't care. People defend all of these crappy decisions and treat these characters like they can do no wrong. Well at least I admit Winter did do wrong at times but at least he never erased anyone's personality or changed their race because it would do them good. (Sorry. I had to reference it.)
Despite all of this... I do like how they end the battle. I don't like that they send Winter away without thinking. Especially since it's Qibli, mastermind extraordinaire who has a plan for everything, is the one who wrote it and apparently put a lot of thought into it. Honestly, I think it was just so we wouldn't have a conflict of interest with Winter clearly being uncomfortable with rewriting people's personalities.
But I love it when people are treated like people. Where both sides are shown with fears and decently valid reasons for what they do. It's an interesting way to end a conflict. A little forgettable compared to what it was built up as but... You know.
Haha! Bet you didn't expect a friggin essay that only mentions the ending a handful of times. I guess I never fully understood how frustrated I am with this book. Sorry about that, it's all over the place. I literally wrote it on the spot. But it came from the heart. If you like this book. Good on you. But please don't harass me about how I just don't understand the secret brilliance of it all. Because I don't. And I doubt you're going to change my mind. Especially if you come at me with a condescending attitude like that. (Sorry personal experience)
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Did Moonbli feel kind of forced to you? It feels like it just came out of nowhere. As far as I can tell, Moon didn't treat Qibli and Winter differently until the epilogue of DoD. And story-wise, Winterwatcher would just fit better, considering that the whole Arc was focused on the Night-Ice War and Darkstalker, a Night-Ice hybrid. I do like Qinter more than both of these ships, but Winterwatcher had more development and made more sense than Moonbli.
Really, either of them would have seem rushed. Neither ship was really developed on Moon’s end, which is key - Winter and Qibli both had ample time to explore their attraction to her, but Moon really only had the first book, where she didn’t know any of them enough to judge.
Winter’s character development went down the toilet in DoD anyway, but giving Tui the benefit of the doubt and believing it intentional would have meant Winter and Moon wouldn’t have been a good couple. Winter needed some time to figure out himself after leaving the Ice Kingdom, which he’s getting canonically with Sanctuary.
Ideally, he would have been there for the final faceoff with Darkstalker and would have gone to Sanctuary in order to have some time to think about what happened, what the Ice Kingdom did, what holding in so much pain can do to a dragon, and being useful and doing what he loves in Sanctuary would have given him the chance to loosen the stress the Kingdom and his family put on him.
Qibli should have gotten the same time to recover; Darkstalker took the idea of a spell to make everyone love him from Qibli, and that isn’t something Qibli would get over once the problem is solved. He needs to spend time around dragons who love him anyway, until he’s able to be more comfortable with himself as he is and stops comparing himself to other dragons so he can find himself lacking. All ships aside, if he went to Sanctuary with Winter, he would be able to help Winter open up to the other dragons there, would be able to be helpful with some tasks while having to accept that there are dragons that are better with other tasks, and his analytical mind would be put to good use studying scavengers.
Moon… I’m on the fence with Moon. She hasn’t shown any real interest in any dragon - she’s been wanting to go to school, and then caught up in saving the world. She’s been on her own for a while in order to keep her powers safe, and having powers has forced her to be distant from other dragons. None of them are really ready for a serious relationship yet, because they’ve all been so trapped by their pasts.
To me, the epilogue should have focused on talking to Winter about Darkstalker, and all three wanting to stay friends even though they’re going to different places. None of the three of them need the tension that dragon dating would give them so soon after everything nearly going to shit.
TLDR; DoD is characterization hell but Winter, Qibli and Moon should have all agreed to stay friends for the time being.
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