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leighlovesmochi · 9 months

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hello!

could you tell us about this expression "저 그렇게 쉬운 사람 아닙니다"? your translation of it, the context it was said in and how you interpreted it?

also what do you think of the fact that jungkook wanted to go to jimin's house to do the live and he said he'd take his things to take a shower there? O_O

thank you so much!

Hi, there! Thanks a lot for your message.

Oh well 🤭 let's take a look I guess!!

(*screenshot not mine)

To start off, I've seen a lot of discourse around this and also as to why/by whom it was deleted. To answer that first, it's hard to say because Jimin just commented:

"삭제해 버리네" which doesn't indicate who performed the action as the pronoun here is missing. He just wrote *he he he* "deleting" or "deleted"

He did use a grammar form 해 (어/아) 버리다 as to indicate that the action was completed in full; this grammar form can also carry an emotional undertone -as if someone was glad/regretful that the action happened. The best or closest interpretation of what he wrote then would be "he he he it's all deleted/gone" (alternatively: "he he he deleting it all") Did he mean he was glad he deleted? Or was he laughing that it got deleted? Hard to tell... You can see Jungkook understood it in that way, but I don't really see a reason why such action would be taken by anyone from the staff or moderators on the platform (if there are any).

Simply because what he wrote was very... brazen to say the least (we'll get into that) but in no way vulgar or inappropriate for broadcast.

Now looking at the preceding comment which you asked about... Jimin knew what he was doing with this comment 🤭 (and the nature of it leads me to believe even more he regretted posting so he deleted it quickly and was laughing about it)

"저 그렇게 쉬운 사람 안입니다"

This phrase closest translates to:

"I am not such an easy person" / "I am not that of an easy person"

First, this sentence is a commonly used phrase, you can also see by the formal tone in which Jimin wrote it as if he was quoting it- he normally doesn't have to / shouldn't talk with such high politeness with Jungkook and Jungkook responded in a highly formal tone and the typical Jimin-ssi for that very reason => which all adds another layer to this whole interaction (teasing upon teasing 🫣)

It's very commonly used when someone is in pursuit of someone else, whether it be trying to persuade you, make you do/feel something or make a move on you.

You would typically say this in a setting when a stranger is trying to get to know you/get your number or in other words is hitting on you and you want to politely and also a bit playfully reject. Of course, the context can also be that when a friend is trying to get on your good side, please you or persuade you. This answer is kind of teasing way to say "huh you think this would work on me?" It is a lot of times spoken in situations when you want to be playful/teasing/flirtatious and say: I'm not such an easy person (but)... [I'm not that easy to sway/your attempts have not been enough, you should try harder]. It can read as an invitation, a sort of cheeky rebuttal to say you know your worth and you expect more to be persuaded.

When put in the context of the wlive, there is more to consider. Jungkook was talking about taking it easy prior to Jimin posting that, when he read a few comments saying that Jimin should "go easy". I feel like Jimin's idea for the comment came from this moment. What leads me to believe he ended up deleting it is that the context in which he said it made it inherently flirtatious and very suggestive: Jungkook naked in bed, trying really hard to persuade Jimin over a livestream to go see him and Jimin making prior remarks to Jungkook to uncover himself 🙈 And that's how it was understood by Jungkook as well as he then went on to reason that it was Weverse that deleted the comment (for it being somehow explicit).

(**Also just to note, "an easy person" 쉬운 사람 as a standalone term in Korean doesn't carry an outright sexual meaning- an easy person in Korean is understood as more of a 'negative' term when you are too agreeable, when you don't stand up for yourself and let people walk over you and you are too easily taken advantage of. It doesn't have to do anything with someone's promiscuity. In the phrase Jimin used however, the implied meaning is different as explained.**)

Very shortly to the last part of your message, he said: "I'll bring stuff to wash up with" most likely implying he was to stay at Jimin's after the proposed live and sleep (and from my guess wash up before his schedule).

"내가 갈게, 내가 씻을 거 챙겨가지고 갈게"

"I'll go, I'll bring stuff to wash up with and go."

(he was emphasizing that he has no problem doing it, he is ready to go).

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leighlovesmochi · 9 months

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jungkook is so effortlessly beautiful…. bro he's breathtaking

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Get ya a man who looks at you like you're the most important being in the universe. Even when not talking.

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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CAN JIKOOK LEAVE ME ALONE?? I HAVE A MILLION THINGS TO GET DONE AND THEY ARE JIKOOKING ALL OVER THE PLACE 😭

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Is letter a song for army?

I know it's been talked about and chewed over and over already, but I want to put in my two cents as well.

Shall I start with the bottom line? Give you my clear answer and then if you want to you will read on, and if you don't you can move on?

My clear answer is:

NO !!

Will it be passed as a song for army?

Hell yeah.

I will sum this up in a couple of paragraphs, I hope.

This is a love song.

A letter, as the name describes it.

JM writing or perhaps reading the letter he wrote pertaining to his thoughts and feelings towards a very special someone in his life.

Reading it out loud, for an audience of one.

The one that towards the end of the song joins in with JM, in a sense replying to him, affirming or reenforcing JM's words, at times feels like he's agreeing with them.

This is JM voicing his feelings towards JK and the choice to add JK to the song is to make a exactly that point. That this is about JK and me (JM), a conversation he's having with JK, one he's/they are letting us in on.

A clearly very intimate moment they are having, but at the same time sharing with us. One of those "we clearly shouldn't be here" third wheeling moments for us.

I have no doubt that this will be sold as a song for army. And it's ok, JM is clever that way. It also isn't the first time we've been told a song is for Army, and we knew better.

The lyrics can be fitting, they can (to I-army that don't have an understanding of Korean language or culture). Well somewhat. Because if you stop to read properly, dive just a little deeper, there is a sense of intimacy there that really does not befit a song for army (even without knowing the Korean side of things).

Yes JM loves army, but heck, he knows how to keep a proper distance from them (way more than JK does, and even he told us in famous Feb live that there need to be boundaries). There is a level of intimacy in this song that is just way beyond. There is imagery of physical contact. There is usage of language that he just wouldn't use with army, as much as he might love them.

Yes, there are lyrics that can definitely be read as a cute song for army, and once again, I believe this was done on purpose, given that indeed we are talking here about a closeted couple.

If you listen to K-army they KNOW. They have a grasp of the language, the nuances. We see intimacy in the words, they see even more than that. They see use of formal and informal language that would not be used in a song for army. They see JM's original notes, god his original notes, and understand them.

For example:

JM used the term dangsin. Translated into you, but not really. Because this is a term used with someone you are highly intimate with, a term used between couples. It's a term that implies intimacy. But he changed the lyrics. JM changed those lyrics because they were too obvious.

There are other clues in the original lyrics that JM chose to share with us that point outright to the fact this is about his feelings for JK, that this song is an intimate love song.

Who is the person JM turns to repeatedly, the person he has said out loud time and time again that will defend him, take care of him, protect him?

JM's album is riddled with queer coding, this song is an effing love song to another man, but at the same time there are checks and balances in the mix, all those little things to weigh it out, allow those that clearly have issues with them being queer to continue living in their fantasy worlds.

I will give you another example: the She in Like crazy.

Yes, it's possible that JM decided to change his own original lyrics from baby to she. It's also possible that this was one of those 'defence mechanisms' put into place to balance out the queer coding in the album. Yes BH artists are given leeway, but be assured that it's not a "do what you want" card. Songs were/are censored. Including hyung line songs, if seen to be too edgy, or too risky, something the fans or public are not yet ready to deal with. In this case, the "she", I cannot tell you this was the case with JM, or if he did his own censorship or if he decided to switch to she because the she represented his feminine side or that the she was imposed on him and the concept of the choreo grew from that and wasn't the original idea. Any of the above are possible.

JM sharing those original lyrics he wrote with us is him telling those that want to hear, those that will understand, exactly what his true intentions were. All while those that don't understand or are unwilling to hear can stick to the 'song for army' narrative. He knows, JK knows, and those that love and support them know. That is what's important.

I was having a discussion with a follower earlier and I told them, this all feels like a little foreshadowing. JM's album, Letter, perhaps JK's music if we get to hear it before MS, a clear hint to something way bigger that will come our way once they're done with the military service.

And when that day comes, all those outright idiots that not only cannot read the signs right in front of their faces, but argue and throw dirt at those that can, at JM and JK, well, it's gonna hit them real hard.

I digress. Back to Letter.

I mentioned JM using intimate language. Words he just does not use with Army (and again, he wouldn't, as they blur the invisible line between idol and fan, a line that he has marked in the sand very clearly I'd say since around 2019), words that did make it to the final cut, like baby.

Baby is intimate. Baby is just not a word JM would call army and never has in the past.

You know who he does call baby on a pretty much regular basis, and it also kind of slips out even with cameras around at times (ahm...they kind of call each other that)?

One guess.

And just lately again.

That "MY shrimp..." translation was hilarious, and also another example as how the automatic translators have a problem translating certain words or expressions. Also, the way BH ran to use that comment as a basis for the JK Qatar post replacing the baby for army... now with Letter out it makes even more sense them trying to dilute it's true meaning.

I feel like I might be all over the place here, but I guess you guys will have to bare with me on this. It's HUGE. Letter is HUGE. Some don't seem to understand just how huge.

Let's reverse a little, because I did speak about JK being there, answering/reacting/mirroring/confirming JM's feelings towards him. And this is my next point as to why this is a love letter, JM conveying his emotions towards a certain person, not Army.

JK could have easily not have been there.

I listened to this song so so many times already.

JM could have conveyed all his feelings for 'army' without asking JK to join him towards the end of the song with vocals he could have done oh so well for himself. But you see, JK needed to be there.

Because it's a dialogue.

JM talking, and at some point JK answering.

Add the calmness of the song. The use of the guitar, no big band, no loud musical background. It all adds to that feeling of just JM and JK sitting there on the beach, waves heard in the background, JM guitar in hand and he's telling the love of his life, singing to him, that they are together forever, no matter what.

And then you also have JM telling us how no other members took part in the creation of this album, this journey of his, it being a personal journey. Funny how JK found his way into this personal journey. Unless, wait a second, JK is part of this specific journey maybe?

I'm going to say this once again, this is something I've been saying practically ever since I opened this little corner in the world called my Jikook blog. They want out. Out of the closet. Out of the silence. JK wants to say JM's his and vise versa. They want to be free to celebrate their love freely, openly. But they can't. Not with the industry they're in, not with the society their in, not with MS around the corner, and damn, not with their own fandom.

Not yet.

Over the years we've had the pushing of boundaries, pushing pulling back, that constant movement. 2022 was weird. Things were happening, to them personally, changes with the company, changes within their band, that had them disappear more or less. I kept saying that not seeing them does not mean they aren't still the same jikook, and every single time we got to see them it was clearly evident.

Why the long ass story? Well, to come to the long ass point I guess, which is, that with this album JM is pushing again, and it's a big one. It's him on a personal level telling people who he is (it started with his folio and blowing up with this album, and the artistic choices for his MV and performances).

But Letter...

I'm going to go so far as to say Letter is JM's GCFT.

There.

I said it.

And having JK there in the song, is as if we had JM there on video watching GCFT and reacting to it.

The way JM set Letter up, the lyrics, JK's part, his entrance, it's all about his feelings towards JK and their forever.

And if we didn't think this was loud, well dear Mr. Jeon came in our faces hours before it landed to show us his 1 lesson in guitar playing being the song JM sang, to him, with him.

Peeps, open your ears and eyes here.

These men are telling us something.

Together.

And it ain't "we love army".

Well, not this time.

Not really.

JM will say he is, and he does love army, but this isn't about army. Disguised as...sure, I accept that. But actually being about...nah.

And here's for point number 118, page 19 chapter 13:

Why the hidden song?

Surprise for army you say?

Once again, definitely perfect reasoning.

Only that if Letter was surprise for army, how does it land only on the physical discs. Is JM now discriminating between armys that bought the discs and those that bought digital? Or those that listen on streaming services? Food for thought.

It wasn't promoted, it was kept secret, yes again the surprise element pops up. But you see, what would have happened if this song was out there all in the open before the album came out?

Let's all be honest here shall we?

Mahem. Chaos.

That's what would have happened.

Do I have to explain why? No, I'm not going to. You know exactly why. And it would have overshadowed everything that JM worked for. Because some of this fandom is shit.

So yeah, surprise, sure, hella good reason.

So why hidden?

Because of the Jikook connection.

Not to mention the symbolism of it all.

Hidden track, hidden lyrics, hidden couple.

Shall I conclude as I started?

Letter isn't for army, not really.

K-army recognize it and anyone who takes the time to read the lyrics, listen to the song, dig a little deeper than what they are told, can see it.

Letter is JM conveying his feelings for JK to JK.

An intimate Love letter/song. One that turns into a dialogue with the person he wrote those words for. JK.

A JM GCFT if you want.

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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I'm just gonna say this and go...

Jungkook started filming WLives at his new apartment in June 2022. At the time, I thought it was odd he furnished his apartment with secondhand stuff from HYBE, but then I just figured perhaps he took some furniture HYBE was getting rid of while he searched for his own.

Well, fast forward 7 months... JK has apparently lived at that apartment for at least half a year. But while watching, I tried to shut off the voice in my head saying, "That apartment looks like no one lives there..."

7 months, and all there is to show for it is a bunch of secondhand furniture from HYBE, a lamp, empty clothing racks in the living room, a TV, and some ramen and beer in the fridge? Even Bam's house appears to be the travel, pop-up type of dog house.

No art work, no plants, no book shelves, not even a proper cell phone tripod for filming lives, it seems. Nothing but the bare minimum...

But sure. Jungkook lives there full time. I'll believe it because clearly that's what he wants us to believe.

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Hands...

That's it, that's the post.

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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I love his lower register too. 🫠

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Hi 😊

I wanted to ask if you could clarify a translation please 🙏 I saw both translations, some saying that Jungkook said "Jimin hyung" and others saying "Jiminie".

If he really said "Jiminie" without honorifics in front of his coach, is it a big deal? Cause I saw some k-jkkrs losing it over that fact

Here is the link: https://twitter.com/factkm58/status/1624500688435945472?s=20&t=Rs9n9cfALUed3ipV6l-kYg

Hi, thanks a lot for your message and sorry for the delayed response.

I am going to try to attach the post you linked for better convenience below (never done that before so bear with me if it doesn't work in the end 😅)

In this short moment it does appear that Jungkook says what the caption in the post contains: "지민이가 형 부르는��요" translated as "Jiminie is calling (you), hyung" (Jungkook is addressing the trainer and telling him Jimin is calling for him in the comments). The reason why some people might think they hear 'hyung' is because he does say it but as a way to address the trainer, not as a way to refer to Jimin. (*if he did he would have said 지민이형이 형 부르는데요)

This is a cute instance where it shows what my impression also was and what was kind of clear from the whole live. Jimin and Jungkook both seem to be close with and very well known to the trainer as I assume they must have taken some lessons together or at least Jimin must have been to the gym before. (It was evident from Jimin telling the trainer he misses him in aegyo which would be highly weird if he did that to a teacher he hasn't met before and personally and also from the instance of the trainer inviting Jimin over to join without any hesitation). And what is also safe to assume is that while they are there, they most likely communicate without honorifics, which is not that big of a news for Jikook to be honest but still significant 😄 This might therefore been a short slip into the casual language Jungkook uses with Jimin even in front of the trainer. And which is why many k-armys went crazy over it as being casual in private is one thing but being casual in front of other people like the trainer gives it even more significance.

Hope my answer contains all the information you were looking for and once again thanks for sending me a message! 😊

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Hi Euna! How are you? On the recent live of Jungkook training boxing, Jimin made a comment (photo). There are several translations circulating on the internet. Could you translate this sentence and also talk about the context surrounding this sentence, please? Thank you!

🐥: "right, great— just like that, keep on improving so you can protect your hyung"

"그래 좋아" is a phrase that can imply both approval and satisfaction—an expression used when the user looks at something and likes what they see. It can also be used to signal the user coming to some sort of conclusion. In this context, JM's reaction to JK boxing is a combination of the two meanings (he approves of what he sees and decides what to do about it). It's funny and endearing because we all know JM is more than capable of protecting himself, but it comes across as him assessing JK's performance and granting him permission to be his bodyguard. A kind of — "you pass, keep up the good work, i'll be in your care~" all rolled into one 🤍

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I hope this small explanation helped your understanding of what was said! I've been doing well. It's been an incredibly busy time for me, so I haven't been online as much save to check-in on how the tannies are doing, but that's been working out for me fine. From what I can tell, it's been a dramatic few weeks for more reasons than one—keeping a healthy distance from the noise and discourse online has helped me focus on pursuing my real life goals. And the faster I can work towards completing them, the faster I can come back to this blog more regularly! Until then, thank you for your patience and understanding 💜

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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Hello! Can you explain the meaning of this? About what Jungkook said to Jimin “건강하란 말이야 어?”, please? I see a lot of Korean fans like this and I don't understand why they like it so much. Thank you so much!

Hello there, thanks a lot for this message! It is something I wanted to address but didn't find the opportunity yet so here it goes.

First off, I'll start with a side note and bit of a longer intro by saying that the exchanges between Jimin and Jungkook that night felt overall very intimate, very loving and caring. It truly made me smile and made my heart melt a little.

Jungkook went from Jimin hyung! (*full smile mode*)

Then in true Jikook fashion, we got Jungkook instantly teasing or getting playful by greeting Jimin in the high polite form, which is something that Jimin and Jungkook have become known to do between the two of them. I already addressed it shortly once but as I am seeing it being discussed more and more I might dedicate a whole post to this with more examples. In short once again, by talking to each other in an unnecessarily highly polite manner, Jimin and Jungkook play into the situation which they are in: in front of an audience on a live, or alternatively in front of cameras and crew (and potential future audience). This puts them into the position of co-workers and into the context of a "professional" environment, which requires politeness. However them being as close as they are, it is safe to assume there is not a single moment they are formal with each other, thus making it super funny when all of a sudden they switch into a very polite and respectful language of two colleagues from some department of a company 😄 To draw a parallel for English speakers to understand this better, it is kind of similar to a situation if someone started calling their best friend 'sir' or 'madam' when in public. More on this maybe later in another post...

To address your specific question, this is a moment from the other spectrum of Jikook interactions.

Here Jungkook drops honorifics and addresses Jimin very casually. It is also important to take into consideration the way he says it. He changes his tone to very casual and caring (and scolding, in sort of 'I am frustrated if you don't listen' way) He starts off by saying:

"Jimin hyung work hard okay...! Jimin... (*drops honorifics here) Be healthy *hm*! You gotta be healthy *어*!"

(said with low formality + important to note that this '어' *oe* sound is used only among friends and considered rude if used when speaking to older people or someone who requires higher politeness than casual language; and in combination with Jungkook's overall tone it emphasizes the scolding, loving and intimate nature of the sentence)

Lastly, Jungkook finishes this off with:

"People have to be healthy..." (still in casual low polite form)

So basically, this whole part sounds loving and scolding at the same time with a causal tone similar to a boyfriend style. That's why Korean fans loved this moment so much!

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leighlovesmochi · 1 year

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The ongoing discourse about that innocent puppy and/or living situation/s is so personally triggering as a gay person. The fact that it takes literally NOTHING for queer relationships to be invalidated is so clear now. You either share compromising details of your personal life on a regular basis or you are just performing queerness and closeness for a consuming audience. Is that where we are at? I know curiosity and the desire for neat, explicit 'answers' is human. But two people whose careers (and the careers of others), and lives would be compromised by certain revelations do not owe anyone that. Yes, revealing parts of our lives can be liberating and relieving to queer people in many ways. But this shit is complicated. Simple truth is the world does not treat us the same. If the world isn't safe for queer couples please do not expect address announcements or christmas cards from us. Don't expect us to make out on the bus or be open with people who find us inhuman and disgusting. Gay conversion therapy is still very much a thing that gets done. It isn't safe out there for all and complaining about a puppy means your priorities are out of order. Those of you clacking away on keyboards worrying about a puppy and what it all means and sending Storm these asks, can we stop pretending there aren't serious systemic obstacles to consider? Kind of sucks that every detail about Jungkook and Jimins lives is set up as having to either prove or disprove a queer relationship. They have to be defiant, self martyring unicorn gays or be seen as disingenuous. That's just unfair. Having privilege isn't problematic in and of itself until it compromises your ability to recognize the struggle and unfairness faced by others. Turning something as vulnerable and personal as cohabitation into a battle ground is the perfect example of this.

Anyway love your blog Storm

Noooo! Because I just want to give you a GIANT hug for this. This is exactly it. And literally right before I opened my inbox again and saw this, I was over on Twitter talking to my bestie about literally EXACTLY this. Same wavelength, you and I. But also just sooo true.

Everything you said. Exactly. On point. 100% with you on every word. Preach it!

I'll add what we were talking about too. About how heteronormitive all this discussions are, because that's what it comes from. The NEED for queer people to continuously PROVE their queerness or their relationship. Emily Blunt and The Rock seemed to be quite good friends. Giggling and teasing each other through interviews over the movie they co starred in. Even making jokes about the romance they played. And yet I have never seen a single person question their personal relationships and marriages or if they are really together. I don't see people trying to use this as proof that Emily is on the outs with her husband or anything else. Yes, they also have the ability to be more open about their relationship, but contrast that with Jojo Siwa too. She is openly out and dating her girlfriend. Posting about her often, gushing over her all the time. Extremely openly queer. And yet now she is on dancing with the stars and there is constant speculation on her relationship, if they broke up, if her gf is jealous of her dancing partner. That her girlfriend hasn't been featured on her tiktok in a week so obviously they are distant and broken up. Regardless that people should instead be enjoying the chemistry she has with her dance partner, that it is going well, that her girlfriend has openly supported her doing this, and that her dance partner is not only straight but is married to another of the professional dancers on the show... it's ABSURD how ridiculous this all is and how love and relationships do not have to been "proven" as much if it's het.

And to bring it back to Jikook and BTS. They have given YEARS worth of "proof" but people jump at every insecurity possible. And yet, I get asks about is JK dating or crushing on some female idol because they legit just walked across the stage the same way and the same time and smiled politely at each other during an award show. Or the way the fandom has created some au level angst exes to Lovers or bad break up with Jimin and the idol from twice because they glanced at each other oddly a couple times. Lmao or how the lizkook ship is going strong off literally nothing. Or how I get asks on occasion about how Yoongi is straight when the man has literally told us that yes, he would date a man and described his ideal man before. Yet half the fandom takes it as a joke or something. Namjoon takes a ring off during an interview and buys a pair of baby booties because he thought they were the cutest things, and that's enough for the fandom to joke about and honestly even believe that he is married with kids, or at the very least has a wife. Yet he posts a bunch of photos of outings with the same guy and shares clothes with him and the same type of jokes about joon his boyfriend are delulu and we don't actually know, etc. JK and Jimin have given multiple hints to being queer over the years regardless of their relationship, yet comp het interview questions or a flirty glance with ARMY is all the proof people need to insist they are straight.

I get being curious. I get wanting to make sure you aren't being delulu. I get wanting to be logical and not make assumptions. Questioning things is fine, making sure you aren't going overboard is fine. But the latching onto the smallest of things, the tiniest of details, thinking that it disproves YEARS upon YEARS of moments and things they have told us. It's too much and all these little details, they don't really matter, do they? We don't need every intimate detail of a het celebrities relationship to believe it exists (Tom holland and zendaya for example, fans knew something was going on long before they said anything or were open about it or their feelings) so we shouldn't need every detail of a queer celebrities relationship to make it valid. Especially if it is technically a closeted queer celebrity couple.

Thanks for putting it all into words and sharing your thoughts here. I'm not totally discouraging these curious or insecure asks, they are okay to a point, but keep in mind how content works and is released and be patient. Relax and just enjoy content as we get it. Enjoy BTS and enjoy jikook as they are. We don't always have to question or answer everything 💜💜 love you all

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