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yanshen reactions post-kissing depicting sq as normal but my dream sq would be going feral on this man then being embarrassed about it later
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hyejokay · 4 months
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I'm only going to go over the sections mentioning the allegations, because I believe those to be he only parts that should be there. I'm sure I have a lot of thoughts about the rest also, but I know they're just there to distract.
Anastasia (23:56-25:29):
Says she couldn't have had his number in her contacts showing on tiktok because he uses a google voice number on his acc - I've had several friends who have his doxed number in their contacts, where it shows Dream in their contacts on tiktok
Says he only had contact with her through twitter dms and that she had 18 in her bio and then contradicted this in the dms - She didn't have 18 in her bio until the end of august 2020, when she turned 18. They were talking in "early 2020" (Dream's words).
Says the texts and him face revealing to her aren't real - I guess there's no verifiable proof they are, so he can't really disprove them either, but it's worth noting that she sent one of the photos of the texts to one of her friends in october 2020.
Bottom line: He frames her as a liar, but the 2 things he 'disproves' aren't true.
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Amanda (28:22-37:55, 39:33-44:49):
Says nothing inappropriate happened between them using a tiktok comment from Amanda - The tiktok comment is from before the alleged inappropriate contact in january 2021. There's another tiktok comment she made about being groomed by a big yter in september 2022, which he never shows
Goes through their instagram logs to show he was disinterested in her and didn't know she was a fan - I think him being disinterested makes it far weirder that he kept in contact, which he makes seem was against his will like he doesn't famously ignore people and has thousands of fans in his dms anyways. He also conveniently remembers her wanting to be a streamer and not all of the messages she sent about her being a fan of his.
Goes through their snapchat 'logs' to prove there was no sexual contact - These appear to be edited and leave things out (just going to link a thread going over this). His proof is an easily editable json file. Hers is a video made with a second phone of her scrolling through all of the messages.
Says she told him she was 19 - No evidence of this, same as there's no evidence of him knowing she was 17.
Says she deleted instagram messages, tiktok comments and twitter likes - This means nothing, besides the fact she was embarassed about liking him previously especially now that everyone was scrutinizing her over it.
Says he would never have met up with anyone during his faceless period - Jay corrobarated that Dream was also talking about flying her out during this time (and I guess Dregentina did now too)
Says if they did have sexual interactions she should have proof of this because she used a picture she took of their snapchat messages with a second phone in her proof - The fact she took 1 picture of their snapchat messages in may 2022 doesn't mean she was obsessively taking photos of their every interaction back in january 2022 with a second phone
Bottom line: Consistently paints an extremely malicious image of Amanda, but most of the things he shows to support this don't really prove that, and says nothing inappropriate happened using very flimsy snapchat logs.
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Jamie (59:48-1:15:06):
Says he's never had sexual contact with a minor and never groomed anyone - He never says if the snapchat video was real and if it was, who it was sent to. This is the thing he needs to disprove for this and he just doesn't.
Says he met Jamie when he wasn't even a youtuber - Only thing he clarifies about their relationship. Doesn't explain anything about why there's a video of Jamie sending a video of Dream sexting her on snapchat through twitter dms in august 2019.
Says the burners aren't people that know Jamie and are simply digging into her life and talking about things they know nothing about - I agree the burners are fucked up, but it's really the content and whether it's real that needs to be addressed.
Shows discord messages saying he didn't know her age - This seems like something very important to prove your innocence, but it's practically glossed over. After all this anonymous person, Sam2, never even talked to him about this, so how would she know this
Shows Sam2's statement saying that to her knowledge he has never interacted with underage fans inappropriately and that she wasn't involved - Completely contradicted by herself.
Shows Jamie's statement saying she's not a victim - I feel very bad for her and wish things didn't happen like this. Whether she thinks she is a victim is kinda irrelevant in the question of whether Dream sexted minors though, which she doesn't deny.
Says he assumes Nat's version of events (her sending the screenshot whilst she was drunk is real) - I mean, I guess he at least cleared Nat there of malicious intent.
Bottom line: He seeds doubt about this story constantly, yet never denies it. In fact he kinda seems to clear everyone in this story of any faking: Jamie, Sam2, Nat, even the burners, they're all just people sending pictures without all of the context, which he never provides.
Some more general comments:
Most of his own proof is a lot more poorly substaniated than that which was shared by Anastasia, Amanda and the burners, yet anything that they shared that can't be 100% proven to be real, he paints as fake, even doing a segment about how easy it is to fake evidence. Not his evidence though, his word is God, remember that. Forget that the whole video is him bringing up times he's lied before.
He often brings up how "ridiculous" claims are, which I guess is easy to believe when you look at these 3 claims in a vaccuum. If you have the knowledge of what a lot of other girls who have had sexual contact with him (and how many that are), this all seems a lot less ridiculous.
He never knows they were underage, even though they were stated elsewhere. There's no actual proof of him having reason to think they weren't minors. We do know they were all underage during alleged sexual contact.
I never brought up anything about the police, because to me it's irrelevant. I'm not knowledgeable enough and I don't think that the reports not having been filed says anything about their believability.
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hyejokay · 4 months
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I was going to breakdown my issues with the whole dream video, but when I got to the manatreed part, they way dream was presenting the timeline felt disingenuous (like most of the video), so I wanted to go through that.
So Dream says that in late 2020, Mana was homeless and struggling. Dream starts helping him out, even offering him a place to stay (but not dteam house?). Sometime in 2021 Mana is living at the dteam address or at least using it as a mailing address, revealed by court documents. I can’t find these anymore, but if someone has a link please send it!
By Jan 2022 Mana is 100% living with Dream and Sapnap. Since the DV charges were a year before this, dream claims its totally plausible he didn’t know about the abuse. But that’s looking at it as if Mana just randomly streamed in Jan 2022 and wasn’t an elaborate … whatever the fuck it was. Let’s break it all down:
Jan 2021 DV charges filed
March 29 2021: Zoom hearing, mana has 10 days to enroll in a Misdemeanor Intervention Program™
April 07 2021: MISDEMEANOR INTERVENTION PROGRAM APPLICATION
June 2021: Dream makes all the Mana accounts
July 30 2021: MISDEMEANOR INTERVENTION PROGRAM REJECTED ("If you are not eligible, you will be notified that you are rejected from the program, and a new court date will be set. If you enter the program, you might be rejected for failing to complete one of the special conditions on time or because of a new arrest.")1
August 3 2021: MISDEMEANOR NOTICE OF HEARING, scheduled for 8/23
August 23 2021: IN PERSON HEARING HELD -> MISDEMEANOR INTERVENTION PROGRAM
Sep 24th 2021: MISDEMEANOR INTERVENTION PROGRAM REJECTED
Sep 27th 2021: MISDEMEANOR NOTICE OF HEARING, scheduled for 10/25
October 25th 2021: MISDEMEANOR INTERVENTION PROGRAM, CASE CLOSED.
November 10th 2021: Dream’s “add small streamers to DSMP” tweet + Uptick in Mana “content” 2
Jan 29th 2022: Mana DSMP Stream
Jan 30 2022: The dox thread.
TL;DR: The Manatreed account was created when Mana first entered the Misdemeanor Intervention Program after the DV charge. However, he was rejected from the MIP, nothing more came after the initial tweets. Then, about four months later, Mana’s case is closed and Mana/Dream begin tweeting from the mana account. Bitch new what was going on imo.
Also. If Dream was in charge of the mana account. Does that mean he was lilyfreshwater on kf.
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hyejokay · 4 months
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I'm only going to go over the sections mentioning the allegations, because I believe those to be he only parts that should be there. I'm sure I have a lot of thoughts about the rest also, but I know they're just there to distract.
Anastasia (23:56-25:29):
Says she couldn't have had his number in her contacts showing on tiktok because he uses a google voice number on his acc - I've had several friends who have his doxed number in their contacts, where it shows Dream in their contacts on tiktok
Says he only had contact with her through twitter dms and that she had 18 in her bio and then contradicted this in the dms - She didn't have 18 in her bio until the end of august 2020, when she turned 18. They were talking in "early 2020" (Dream's words).
Says the texts and him face revealing to her aren't real - I guess there's no verifiable proof they are, so he can't really disprove them either, but it's worth noting that she sent one of the photos of the texts to one of her friends in october 2020.
Bottom line: He frames her as a liar, but the 2 things he 'disproves' aren't true.
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Amanda (28:22-37:55, 39:33-44:49):
Says nothing inappropriate happened between them using a tiktok comment from Amanda - The tiktok comment is from before the alleged inappropriate contact in january 2021. There's another tiktok comment she made about being groomed by a big yter in september 2022, which he never shows
Goes through their instagram logs to show he was disinterested in her and didn't know she was a fan - I think him being disinterested makes it far weirder that he kept in contact, which he makes seem was against his will like he doesn't famously ignore people and has thousands of fans in his dms anyways. He also conveniently remembers her wanting to be a streamer and not all of the messages she sent about her being a fan of his.
Goes through their snapchat 'logs' to prove there was no sexual contact - These appear to be edited and leave things out (just going to link a thread going over this). His proof is an easily editable json file. Hers is a video made with a second phone of her scrolling through all of the messages.
Says she told him she was 19 - No evidence of this, same as there's no evidence of him knowing she was 17.
Says she deleted instagram messages, tiktok comments and twitter likes - This means nothing, besides the fact she was embarassed about liking him previously especially now that everyone was scrutinizing her over it.
Says he would never have met up with anyone during his faceless period - Jay corrobarated that Dream was also talking about flying her out during this time (and I guess Dregentina did now too)
Says if they did have sexual interactions she should have proof of this because she used a picture she took of their snapchat messages with a second phone in her proof - The fact she took 1 picture of their snapchat messages in may 2022 doesn't mean she was obsessively taking photos of their every interaction back in january 2022 with a second phone
Bottom line: Consistently paints an extremely malicious image of Amanda, but most of the things he shows to support this don't really prove that, and says nothing inappropriate happened using very flimsy snapchat logs.
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Jamie (59:48-1:15:06):
Says he's never had sexual contact with a minor and never groomed anyone - He never says if the snapchat video was real and if it was, who it was sent to. This is the thing he needs to disprove for this and he just doesn't.
Says he met Jamie when he wasn't even a youtuber - Only thing he clarifies about their relationship. Doesn't explain anything about why there's a video of Jamie sending a video of Dream sexting her on snapchat through twitter dms in august 2019.
Says the burners aren't people that know Jamie and are simply digging into her life and talking about things they know nothing about - I agree the burners are fucked up, but it's really the content and whether it's real that needs to be addressed.
Shows discord messages saying he didn't know her age - This seems like something very important to prove your innocence, but it's practically glossed over. After all this anonymous person, Sam2, never even talked to him about this, so how would she know this
Shows Sam2's statement saying that to her knowledge he has never interacted with underage fans inappropriately and that she wasn't involved - Completely contradicted by herself.
Shows Jamie's statement saying she's not a victim - I feel very bad for her and wish things didn't happen like this. Whether she thinks she is a victim is kinda irrelevant in the question of whether Dream sexted minors though, which she doesn't deny.
Says he assumes Nat's version of events (her sending the screenshot whilst she was drunk is real) - I mean, I guess he at least cleared Nat there of malicious intent.
Bottom line: He seeds doubt about this story constantly, yet never denies it. In fact he kinda seems to clear everyone in this story of any faking: Jamie, Sam2, Nat, even the burners, they're all just people sending pictures without all of the context, which he never provides.
Some more general comments:
Most of his own proof is a lot more poorly substaniated than that which was shared by Anastasia, Amanda and the burners, yet anything that they shared that can't be 100% proven to be real, he paints as fake, even doing a segment about how easy it is to fake evidence. Not his evidence though, his word is God, remember that. Forget that the whole video is him bringing up times he's lied before.
He often brings up how "ridiculous" claims are, which I guess is easy to believe when you look at these 3 claims in a vaccuum. If you have the knowledge of what a lot of other girls who have had sexual contact with him (and how many that are), this all seems a lot less ridiculous.
He never knows they were underage, even though they were stated elsewhere. There's no actual proof of him having reason to think they weren't minors. We do know they were all underage during alleged sexual contact.
I never brought up anything about the police, because to me it's irrelevant. I'm not knowledgeable enough and I don't think that the reports not having been filed says anything about their believability.
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hyejokay · 7 months
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may the archons guide your path (part 2)
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hyejokay · 7 months
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- focalors / furina layouts
- art credits : 💧 ,, 💧
- like/reblog if used
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hyejokay · 7 months
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I wake and watch you breathing with your eyes closed.
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furina layout 🌀
please like & reblog if used 🫧
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hyejokay · 8 months
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the siblings 🌟🐈‍⬛🐈🤍. matching icons !!
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be sure to credit the artist if you use!
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hyejokay · 1 year
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oh, no, I've said too much . . . . ☆☆
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kasane teto layouts !! ♡( ◡‿◡ )
like + reblog if you save/use !!
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hyejokay · 1 year
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[req] - say, can I make you mine?
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dark red layouts
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🌫 🌫 🌫 / 🌫 x 🌫
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I think I have a thing for blushing + annoying akechi
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Sweet Magic / Wonderlands x Showtime ft. 鏡音リン
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my cats
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