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hpandcarbs · 4 hours
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you wouldn’t have lasted an hour in the asylum where they raised me
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hpandcarbs · 4 hours
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“the seven weren't really friends, they were more like colleagues” have you ever considered shutting the fuck up
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hpandcarbs · 4 hours
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Jason’s story was always a tragedy.
From coming from a difficult family situation to being given to the wolves as a toddler to becoming a child (literal small child!) soldier and never getting to find out who he was as a person outside of the legion to being whisked away and losing his memories and being forcefully given a girlfriend who in the end really didn’t love him and then losing his best friend in a battle and never getting to learn that his friend actually survived before he -
He DIED. As a teenager who for the first time was finally finding out who he was and what he wanted to be. He had plans for what he wanted to be his life’s work much earlier than the average person would figure it out but despite that he never got to complete his life’s work because he died too young.
Jason’s story was always a tragedy.
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hpandcarbs · 5 hours
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I just think it's funny how Rick Riordan must have done SO MUCH research about different cultures and communities, doing his best to be respectful in his representations.
Yet couldn't be bothered to pull up Google Maps to see how far away the St. Louis Arch is from the water
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hpandcarbs · 1 day
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as a fandom we do not talk enough about the fact that Bianca, Hylla and Thalia raised both themselves and their younger siblings at the exact same time (yes cabin counsellors do that all the time but that's for another post)
everyone always talks abt how sad it is for demigods to grow up so quickly in order to fight monsters but Thalia and Hylla had to grow up quickly to fight the monsters in their own homes. Bianca had to grow up in a hotel surrounded by overly excited kids playing games all the while she had to keep an eye out for her overly excited 10 yr old brother in a sea of ppl with no outside help.
Eldest Daughter Trio
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hpandcarbs · 1 day
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Currently thinking abt the fact that the second Thalia Grace came back from the tree everyone tried to convince her that Luke was pure evil and a traitor to Camp (without proof) even tho they had a full year + a few months to deal with this fact while Thalia didn't
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Drew Tanaka having to deal with the fact that the sister she looked up to, loved and trusted the most was a traitor that caused so many campers to lose their lives, including her own boyfriend, all the while everyone at camp kept trying to convince her that she died a hero despite it all.
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hpandcarbs · 1 day
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Things I wished was brought up/talked abt more in the books and fandom pt 1
Recognizing the fact that Percy wasn't the only one who was abused in his home as a child
Chiron gaslighting Percy and constantly withholding information from him and Jason (as far as I remember)
Thalia's childhood and overall importance to the narrative
Bianca was a 12 yr old girl who made mistakes and shouldn't be hated for her decisions
Hylla -Twice Kill- Ramirez Arellano
Phoebe the Hunter
EVERY Big Three Kid getting the chance to go all out on a person or a monster!!! Not just the boys, I mean Thalia and Hazel too!!
Annabeth's rocky relationship with her mother and how they should have a conversation abt it
Hazel should've been allowed to explore her powers over precious metals instead of letting her use the Mist e.g. controlling weapons (yes ik the rating was for kids but come on there's a bunch of ways you could've done this)
The potential of Octavian, Reyna and Jason mirroring Luke, Annabeth and Thalia
Camp Jupiter being fleshed out more and having more depth
Percy and Jason shouldn't have fought over leadership
Jason literally being replaced in his own camp and getting mocked for no longer being Roman even tho he was replaced by a Greek
Reyna and Jason's friendship
Dakota
The potential of Thalia and Nico being friends
Percy's mistreatment throughout the first 5 books from CHB
Thalia should've been in the room during the final fight in tlo
Rachel Elizabeth Dare is a wonderful character and doesn't deserve the hate just because she threatened the development of Percabeth
JASON AND THALIA SHOULDVE HAD MORE TIME TO DEVELOP AND BE TOGETHER
The only couple that should've been on the Argo II was Percabeth
The caleo plot line should've been a platonic relationship at best cause they both deserved better. Say what you want abt Calypso but she deserved to be freed. also, GIVE LEO A SELF LOVE PLOT LINE!!
Showing us how Leo learned to not be so afraid of using the powers that he believes killed his mother
I still think that Rick could've done something with the ' a Greek and a Roman born as siblings for the first time in centuries thing'
The implication that Thalia at 12 yrs old literally got torn apart by a pack of hellhounds on that hill (see tlt and hoh for proof)
Jason and Percy's rivalry should've either been caused by jealousy for the other having something they longed for (e.g. Jason wanted a family and a close relationship with his sister and a Camp that cared abt him.)
(Percy wanted Demigods to have a safe place to go and he definitely hated waking up in the forest alone with no memory surrounded by wolves)
Annabeth and Jason should've had more time spent together developing a friendship or a sibling relationship as they share an older sister
Rick failed at writing the Aphrodite Cabin and could've done better with the Hunters
Is it really necessary to have every major character be a cabin counselor?
Jason is the son of Jupiter yet he's only met Zeus.
Will's trauma from losing 2 of his brother's and being forced into a leadership position at a VERY young age should've been discussed more
Does anyone know what happened to the remaining Demigods from the Titan Army? Did they die? Did they run away? Were they offered a place at Camp, what???
who was responsible for telling the parents of the Demigods who died during botl and tlo and how did they even do it?
Why tf did Chiron make a 14 Yr Old boy tell a 10 yr old his sister was dead???
Drew Tanaka has the potential to be a layered and interesting character but Rick wrote her as a stepping stone for Piper
Instead of having everyone minus Leo be in a relationship on the Argo II, it should've just been Percabeth, who are the oldest (minus Hazel) and most experienced (slightly minus Jason) mentoring the others and helping them learn how to use their abilities and work as a team
Jason and Piper should've spent hoo learning who they are and who the other person is so they can learn to trust and depend on each other instead of jumping into a relationship right off the bat
Also they should've been the founders of the Leo protection squad just saying
Was losing daedalus' computer AND Luke's dagger necessary?
Percy should've spoken up when they were contemplating leaving Nico in the jar
The way Percy got all his memories back while Jason DIDN'T
Perseus means to 'Destroy' and Jason means 'to Heal' I think this could've been a great thing to talk about and https://www.tumblr.com/starlightshadowsworld/744309856211697664/this-exactly-like-were-told-time-and-time-again?source=share this post explains it better and credits to @rowlev and @starlightshadowsworld for it.
Thalia's relationship with the hunters is definitely a lot more complicated than we think, see this post -> https://www.tumblr.com/caffeinatedflumadiddlebutpjo/645485477726715904/i-am-having-feelings-about-thalia-grace-everyone?source=share for a better explanation
Why were Nico and Percy the only ones to go apeshit on a monster/goddess/person? What about Jason, Hazel and Thalia? yes ik Hazel fought Paisphae in HOH but that was the mist and not her actual powers over jewels and other Pluto/Hades abilities that we could've explored. Jason is praised for defeating Krios on his own as well as the trojan sea monster yet we don't get to see him go all out or put in a situation where he's pushed to the brink and is forced into a fit of rage. No, seeing Thalia turn to ice wasn't enough I need more.
Also I know it was mainly about the 7+Nico and Reyna but what if we got a perspective of Thalia or Hylla right after Reyna and Nico escaped from Orion? what if we got to see how that fight went? what if we saw Hylla and Thalia beating the absolute shit out of Orion like Nanami and Itadori did to mahito in jjk season 1? cause you can't tell me that both Thalia and Hylla wouldn't have just straight up used him as a punching bag after he killed their friends and comrades.
Children of the Big Three Do. Not. Just. Apply. To. The. Boys! I will fight you.
What kind of drawbacks do you think washing away the Curse of Achilles done to Percy? Demigods already have bad luck, Percy and Thalia especially, since they were the products of a broken Oath.
Rick shipping one person with another much older person (see Annabeth who had a crush on Luke who was 7yrs older than her and was implied to have returned said feelings during tlo when he was 24 and she was 16. As well as fans who dislike Frank for being 16 while Hazel was 13 and Calypso and Leo which speaks for itself. y'know?)
People are allowed to feel torn/conflicted about Silena's actions during the war
Writing off single characters into the Hunters of Artemis is not the best way to wrap up arcs. (FYI I love the hunt and think it's cool but I just think that Thalia and Reyna could've has a different ending to their arcs)
The fact that Thalia is always pushed out of the picture when it comes to the Broken Trio dynamic even tho she plays a major role in it see this post -> https://www.tumblr.com/aetherialpiplup108/743363216863887360/so-ive-always-been-a-little-upset-at-the-way?source=share for more info
pls list things I may have missed or add your own below. here's the link for part 2 -> https://www.tumblr.com/automaticcatsandwich/748806951406813184/things-i-wish-was-brought-uptalked-abt-more-in?source=share
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hpandcarbs · 4 days
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ive been thinking a lot about how the pjo universe will continue and truthfully I dont think it can (in a meaningful way) until rr commits to actually taking a stance on tlo and moving forward accordingly. tlo wasn't really a victory, percy didn't reform anything. he managed to get zeus to make a tiny concession that, when you think about it, benefits the gods much more than it does their children. I mean... claiming is a meaningful gesture and all, but thats really all it is. the whole pay your child support joke is funny, but claiming their kids doesn't amount to offering any of the structural support that would actually substantially improve their lives.
what's interesting is how ingrained it is in the culture of chb how they define themselves by who their parents are. depending on how devoted they are, who their godly parent is influences their opinions and perceptions of themselves and others. (see the percabeth poseidon/athena rivalry and how the camp started to split up into its own mini war in tlt). those kids, no matter whether they've even met their parents, clearly shape some aspects of their identity around their parent.
keeping in mind that the gods and their power are derived from worship, and how their kids practice their own form of worship simply by existing, claiming them strengthens them inherently. not to mention that the gods use their kids to do things they couldn't themselves, like percy being poseidons hail mary to stop the war in tlt.
meanwhile gods are forbidden from interfering with human fate, demigods are still in danger from monsters and are trapped by fate and prophecy and even if the gods do break their oaths, they dont even really suffer for it.
tlo is a really bitter victory against a force they cannot defeat and cannot strongarm into changing.
I am convinced that none of the series post pjo have worked because none of them can commit on what the ending of tlo really means.
if the thesis statement is that demigods are just doomed by the narrative, which is what's hinted at, then fucking commit to that and make it a tragedy. rr cant do that however because it doesn't at all fit into how he writes, so right now all the series are stuck in a place where theyre either standalone adventures in the pjouniverse (tsats, cotg) that function more as companion novels to the main series, or series (hoo, toa) whose conclusion is that yeah things do sure suck but theres fuck all I can do about it.
its a tragedy thats not allowed to be a tragedy, which means that even if the books are fun on an individual level, in an overarching aspect they are infested with this depressing resignation, where characters have resigned themselves to be content with how things are. characters arent allowed to be upset because if theyre allowed to be angry that anger has to lead somewhere which its never does.
the universe is standing at a crossroads between 'overthrowing the gods/changing the status quo' and ' commit to the tragedy of what it means to be a hero' and and we haven't moved forward since the last olympian was published.
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hpandcarbs · 4 days
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I CANT STOP FUCKING GRINNING
the funny thing about william andrew solace is that he has rizz but a very specific branch of rizz that has never worked on any living soul. the funnier thing about niccolò di angelo is that the rizz works on him and only him and unfortunately the rizz works on him HARD
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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Will Solace probably learned to put aside his own needs and wants to help other people during tlo. After Michael Yew died, Percy tore Will away to save Annabeth. He didn't get to help look for Michael or even grieve for him; he had to save Annabeth. While he's healing her, Will says that they're lucky they got there when they did or else Annabeth would've died, which probably solidified that sentiment for him.
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The same thing happens in tho and Will again puts his own needs aside to help save other people. At this point, his only siblings, Austin and Kayla disappeared, yet Will knew it was his duty to stay back and heal the injured. He even stopped Apollo from trying to find them at that moment.
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Will probably had more concern for Austin and Kayla than Apollo at that moment. He already lost Lee, Michael, and the rest of his unnamed sibling during botl and tlo; he doesn't want to lose his remaining ones. Even though he experienced so much loss and thought he was going to experience more, he still stayed behind to treat the rest of camp because he had to.
Will's sense of duty has no regard for himself.
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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currently thinking about how percy attempted to end his life by suffocating himself underwater near the argo ii. but jason disrupted it and saved his life. then months later. jason was killed on a boat surrounded by water. and it just so happened to be on a quest that percy turned down.
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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it’s honestly kind of mind boggling to think about the mindset differences between chb and cj and how it impacted the way each camp was run if that makes sense ??
like chb’s mindset pre meeting cj was that they needed to live their lives one day at a time and expect death at every turn but also be grateful that your here and alive
like to me chb is a camp bc it’s trying to cater to the fact that it’s 90% young children running around like we’re trying to keep things fun to keep kids from wanting to leave and also give them this idea of fake comfort
the “old kids” are still teens and your expected life span is like 20 if your lucky and don’t expect to suddenly be set free at 20 nono your still going to fight every day of your life while also keeping this side of yourself secret as to not get others or yourself hurt bc remember your a freak lol
then you look at cj and yeah that’s a child labour camp but your surrounded by a city of potential you can retire and you can see your entire lineage living and breathing here in a space of your own
like cj always seemed to have a more grown up air around it bc outside the camp they were surrounded by adults, everything is more grown up- the progression of the city, the people who live there, and the way it’s run like a legit army and not a field trip gone wrong
at cj your there to learn how to protect the city this is an army and you are a soldier vs chb which is riddled with a child’s touch bc that’s who lives there
like it literally takes percy’s generation of campers who watched the mistakes of the generation before them to make even the slightest bit of change which (aside from the claiming) was literally just them expanding and gaining some type of political upgrade while cj has a whole ass government
like how crazy is that
i could imagine percy talking to hazel of frank abt that in son as he’s getting his memories back and he just happens to sprinkle that in with other facts he’s remembering abt chb and their like
“?? tf you mean the oldest kids you knew from camp were only ljke 3 years older then you? like they moved out after that or..oh they died? wow. oh they never actually even made it out of camp..wow..and the like actual oldest camper you knew changed to the dark side and was the vessel for kronos/saturn??..right..”
and like obv some cj kids can relate to chb kids bc they’ve also been uprooted from their homes to live at cj but we can literally read from percy how nice it is just to have a future to look towards
sigh :(
also i know there is a future for chb to a degree but it’s just crazy the amount of work with barely any reward alongside the fact that it’s borderline discouraged to think that way
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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thinking abt how percy exploded that volcano but from annabeths perspective bc could you imagine being her and watching that bitch explode and being like “damn he really did have a plan he ate that up :)” and she’s waiting there for like half an hour and waiting for him to pop out of the woodwork but as time goes by he doesn’t she’s like “wait a damn minute…”
like ik that shit was traumatic as hell but how FUNNY IS THATTT
she’s like standing a ways away at the entrance to one of the labyrinth tunnels imagining percy walking away from the explosion and pulling her into another kiss after this crazy near death experience she’s probably thinking this is when their gonna start dating (or she’s thinking abt how they’re never going to speak again bc he doesn’t like her like that blah blah) and as she’s thinking abt this she’s like “hmm it’s been a while maybe i should look for him or smth” she’s like calling out his name and ever so slowly the last line of that prophecy starts playing in her head
like she prob went from “percy :) hey percy!! percy im over here !!” to “PERCYYYY‼️🔇🔇🔇PERCY WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU LERCY PERFYYYY PERUC PETYC WHere WHEREE ARE YOU PERRCYYYY‼️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️”
ik that girl was out searching for that man until the helicopters came and she had to dip
coming back to camp covered in soot and trauma thinking she just killed her best friend
this or she didn’t believe he had a plan at all and when he doesn’t show up she just knows deep down that it’s over (not that he’s dead bc unless she has a body ik for a fact she won’t believe that shit) but just that smth bad has happened and that she should’ve stayed with him instead of leaving
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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headcannon that after percy gets home and all that from being missing the first several months of him being home was everyone acting like he’s a small child who might get lost if he isn’t wearing one of those monkey backpacks with a leash as a tail
i know annabeth stopped letting him walk her to her cabin she now walks him to his cabin and watches him close the door then stands there for 5 minutes before calling goodnight to his window and if he doesn’t answer she breaks the door down to verify he is infact still in there
sally walks into him room at night just to check if he’s still in his bed tbh the first month i know sally was practically rocking him to sleep just so she knew he was home and safe
when he’s not at camp he’s at home if he’s not at home he’s at camp and if he’s not at either of those he’s got a buddy with him
i know every so often he starts feeling a bubble of anxiety in his chest and he has to force an extremely strong feeling of safety and conger up a mental image of exactly where he’s at just to calm down grover who he just saw 8 hours ago
it probably stresses sally and paul out when he’s in his room for too long and they don’t hear him walking around like he goes upstairs to do his homework and once he’s sat at his desk for over an hour he’s got some knocking at his door and it’s paul “just checking in”
i know everytime he walks into a cabin or the big house or even home everyone greets him like it’s the first time they’ve talked to him in years like they’re trying to positively reinforce the fact that he’s safe and home
i know paul starts getting a little anxious when he doesn’t see him around for a certain amount of time too like he misses percy leaving for the day so paul pokes his head into percy’s room to see it empty then goes downstairs to see only sally and has to force a flat voice as he’s like “lol so have you seen percy recently or…” as his hearts beating in his throat
like percy disappearing has def given everyone ptsd and anytime he’s gone for what feels like even slightly too long they start to panic a little
he stops at a grocery store after he leaves school and ducks into an alley to iris message annabeth just to let her know he’s gonna run late 20 min later he’s trying to debate what flavor ice cream he should get when an employee is tapping him on the shoulder bc there’s someone on the line for him and it’s annabeth who’s hacked into the security cameras telling him to get chocolate
she got 2 birds with 1 stone now he has to leave and come home (bc monsters) and she also gets her fav flavor
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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i really hope as a wedding gift sally gets the front page newspaper of when annabeth percy and grover were on the fbis most wanted list and frames it for them
like the weddings super private so when they open it everyone around them kinda knows the joke abt it and it’s like a cute moment
then when they get their own house they have it over the fireplace mixed in with other random cute pics so no one truely notices what it is until annabeth has her mom friends over and their wine drunk and one of the moms is like “you two were wanted by the FBI???”
and annabeth has to remember what the story was that they had made up and is like “lol yeah it was a huge misunderstanding we were actually kidnapped by this guy and percy had to have a standoff with him bc he was holding us at gunpoint...it was a wedding gift😁”
and their all like “…oh….haha…”
then they all go home and look it up
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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i like to think if annabeth and percy ended up living around mortals they would tell their friends abt some of the stuff they went through bc they can’t really hide it forever except they make it sound like their family’s part of the greek mafia
a lot of “yeah my dads…influential…in greece”
or “my moms,,pretty powerful in greece,, yeah she’s up there lol..anyway”
like they make it sound like maybe poseidon and athena are two “business CEO’s” who butt heads but everyone thinks their two mafia leaders who hate eachother
annabeth slips up and brings up the 7 months percy was missing and they have to cover it up saying his aunt, on his dads side, sent him away to a boarding school in greece where he wasn’t able to contact anyone here in america
“yeah we don’t really talk to her after..that..”
it doesn’t help that their friends can hear them hiss in greek to each other when they don’t want them to know what their saying
or when their stretching in a certain way that makes their shirt ride up and there are obvious scars hidden underneath
and it honestly all makes sense just going off the vibes of the two of them so no one really questions it because who would and anytime either of their parents appear shifted into their mortal counterparts everyone keeps their eyes downcast
dj khaled: anotha one
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hpandcarbs · 7 days
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The mischaracterization of people from PJO is so funny, but ESPECIALLY from HOO onward like.
“Hazel’s such an innocent little angel. She’s always nice and kind and confused.”
Hazel, who’s always ready to fight in the same way Percy is? Hazel, who made it explicitly clear she probably would’ve rocked Octavian’s shit had he not been blackmailing her? Who gets so angry on behalf of the people she loves, to the point where she doesn’t forgive those who have wronged them? Who Percy described as cursing up a storm in one of their first interactions? Who’s been shown time and time again to be FAST to anger? That Hazel?
Or Nico, who’s “a misunderstood emo. A small bean. Cute like a wet cat and innocent like a bunny.”
Nico, who’s cannonically described by most characters as “scary and unnerving?” Nico, who, for a long time, is one of the angriest characters in the series? Who’s only sassy and sarcastic because it took him FOUR YEARS to mellow out? Who’s described as being one of the most powerful demigods, who a lot of people still consider the scariest? Who’s come into his own as a character from TTC to TSATS? That Nico?
Or Annabeth who’s, “cold and calculating. Doesn’t show emotion or express herself”
Annabeth, who’s the most expressive person in the series? Who cries in EVERY book in the OG series? Whether it be for Luke, or Thalia, or Percy, or Chiron, or a literal DOG? Who expresses passion like no other when it comes to architecture and her other interests? Who’s expressed compassion for people she didn’t know? People who at times posed a threat to her? Who isn’t afraid to be angry, or happy, or snide, or rude, or excited, or scared, or ecstatic? Who’s been unapologetically herself since the moment the series started? That’s who doesn’t show emotion? That’s Annabeth?
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