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HC the only reason Miguel gave Hobie a watch in the first place is because he genuinely doesn't know what Punk is
Miguel most likely thinks Punk is just some really old Boomer style that Hobie is WAY too into.
Cause like let's be real, he's from 2099 - he probably can't tell a punk from a greaser from a grunge person from an emo. To Miguel
He probably looks at Hobie the way WE look at Noir.
He probably can't even understand Hobie.
Pop Quiz!! If you met someone from like 1915 RIGHT NOW would you know if they had electricity and phones and photos and radios yet? Were they still using telegraphs? Could women vote yet??
I don't know!!!!!! Couldn't tell ya!!!!!!
Now apply that to Hobie and Miguel
The thought of Hobie being able to reverse engineer his watch didn't even pass his mind cause Miguel's most likely like 'When are you from? 1978? I'm surprised you even know what a computer is. Did you all even have electricity then? Cars? Don't look at me like that - I'm a geneticist not a historian, Brown.'
All he knows is that in Hobies world cars don't fly and therefore he is Ancient and Old™️
We all see Noir as like an old geezer regardless of age but no one ever suggests that how Miguel sees Hobie vjhoohchvoh
Like Miguel completely disregarding Hobie cause he's like 'Hobie? That Boomer? Sure. His generation can't even send an email without downloading a virus. What the hell is he going to do? Put my calculations on a CD-ROM? A floppy-disc?? Lyla, be realistic.'
SO REAL. Cause let's be honest HOW ELSE IS HOBIES STORING ALL HIS DATA 😭😭 He has no SD cards!! Only these!! Floppy Disks!!!
Thousands upon thousands of these
Like what other explanation is there 😭😭 HUH??? Why else would Miguel disregard him so hard!!
Everytime Hobie talks instead of being like 'this snotnose kid-' Miguel's more like 'sure like imma take pointers on how to run a society from a fucking Boomer yeah right I saw what you all did to the economy'
Hobie probably be playing punk music and to Miguel it sounds like old show tunes coming out a vintage tin radio
Hobies music is so old it's 'classical' now 😔
Miguel has absolutely no idea what punk is and tbh???? He doesn't fucking care. Why? Cause that's some old people shit.
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Hobie and his friends Karl and Riri!!! I love them,,,
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where are the ponyboy x johnny fanfics that don’t have a homophobic sodapop???
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Bikini Kill Performing at Club Asylum in Washington, D.C., 1992.
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i’m sure i’ve said this before but punk clothes *should not* be expensive. if you are buying expensive “punk” clothes for the aesthetic, you aren’t punk. the point of punk was and is to reject commercialism and the exploitation of youth by corporations and governments. you know why leather jackets are a staple of punk fashion? bc leather jackets were abundant in thrift stores after greaser culture ended in the late 60s or so. black hair dye was cheapest at the time, so a lot of punks had black hair. the patches? meant to be diy. expensive “punk” style clothes go against punk culture on a fundamental level.
my current battle jacket is from a plus size consignment store, and i *only* bought it from there because it was the first jacket across multiple stores that was in my size. when my favourite the clash t-shirt didn’t fit me anymore, i cut out the logo and made it a patch to put on a shirt that did fit me. most of the patches on my jacket and backpack are handpainted or embroidered by me.
the only reason punk clothes should be at all mildly expensive is if you’re buying from a small business. the patches and pins i dont make myself i buy from small businesses off etsy. even then there are shops like retirementfund that do $1 screenprinted patches. VoodooLuxe and LovelyAlternative both have handmade riot grrrl pins for $1.50 each. this isn’t sponsored or whatever, i’m just saying that there are so many better places to find punk clothes and accessories.
punk isn’t just an aesthetic. punk culture is diy for a reason.
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IMPORTANT!!!
I’ve only seen like one person talk about this and it’s super important that this gets out there
Multiple punk symbols and sayings have been added to the FBI’s domestic terrorism guide
Things included are
The symbol for anarchy
ACAB and 1312
The three arrows pointing down in a circle
Eat the rich
Those are a few but it also mentions anything anti-fascist and anti capitalist
So if you live in the US please be careful
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Everyone talks about Hobie MJ but like.. that's not the real threat here.
Who's Hobies RIRI????
Cause canonically he does run with Riri Williams, they're friends and operate out the same base in the beginning of SpiderPunk's run.
And like... 70's, tech obsessed, alt, British black girl, with moxie and a good humor. LORD HAVE MERCY.
Hobie and his Riri would be flirting like Morgan and Garcia in Criminal Minds
DO YOU SEE IT
YOU KNOW WHAT - IMMA MAKE ONE
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SNAPCHAT IS CALLED PICABOO IN MILES UNIVERSE AND COKE IS CALLED KOCA-SODA OH MY GOD there’s also Planet Inglewood (idk what that’s substitute for) and a song that’s advertised called Save Like A Hero and a movie posted up on a billboard called From Dusk Till Shaun and another one with The Boys and another movie (?) called Red Man something I couldn’t read the last bit of it.
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ok also because nobody has pointed it out (as far as I've seen) and I guess someone should:
Prowler colors + cat motif + P for Prowler on the watch Hobie built.
Just an easter-egg nod to the main comics continuity, where Hobie was the original Prowler? Or maybe a hint that in Hobie's universe, he's had the Prowler mantle as well at some point? Either way it's interesting.
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