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fantasyraindrps · 4 years

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Catra(Catradora) vs Hordak(Entrapdak) and the case against the hypocritical nonsense

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*I will use the word LOVE because that’s what canon wants us to believe when it comes to Catra in season five,but I personally roll my eyes at when taking seasons 1-4 into account,but I digress.... *

I find the negative discourse between Catra and Hordak fans(and their respective ships)both hilarious and hypocritical.

Catra and Hordak are MIRRORS.

Their canon parallels:

Because of their past trauma Catra and Hordak are both the VICTIMS as well as the PERPETRATORS of the cycle of abuse theme of the show.

Hordak was a child solider thrown into a war.

Catra was a child soldier thrown into a war.

Hordak is the product of evil indoctrination.

Catra is the product of evil indoctrination.

The repercussions of Prime and his Galactic Horde Cult gave rise to its victim and abuser Hordak.

The repercussions of this gave rise to the victim and abuser Catra.

Hordak is the leader of the Enterian Horde.

Catra becomes Co-Leader(in actuality the Leader) of the Enterian Horde in season 4.

Hordak is guilty of murder(attempted and otherwise), and the conquest of towns and kingdoms throughout Enteria.

Catra is guilty of murder(attempted and otherwise), and the conquest of towns and kingdoms throughout in Enteria.

Hordak is a war criminal.

Catra is a war criminal.

Hordak goes through even more personal abuses in the form of mind violations, and an invasive, violent purification ritual.

Catra goes through even more personal abuses in the form of mind violations, and an invasive, violent purification ritual.

Hordak and Catra are also the only two characters in the series to go through the latter.

Their mutual invasion occurs from the same abuser Horde Prime.

Hordak finds salvation because of his love for a princess. Entrapta.

Catra finds salvation because of her love for a princess. Adora

Hordak has a take back my power moment from his abuser, and it is done face to face and eye to eye before said abusers death.

Catra has a take back my power moment from her abuser, and it is done face to face and eye to eye before said abusers death.

Hordak's abuser (Prime) death is the only way he can have true closure.

Catra's abuser (Shadowweaver) death is the only way she can have true closure.

Hordak suffers from severely low self esteem, and the misplaced and tragic desire to be loved and seen as worthy by his abuser.

Catra suffers from severely low self esteem, and the misplaced and tragic desire to be loved and seen as worthy by her abuser.

Hordak's love for Entrapta is what ultimately starts the domino that kills off for good the ultimate abuser of him, Enteria, and the universe as a whole, Horde Prime.

Catra's love for Adora is what ultimately gets her to be the ending domino that kills off for good the ultimate abuser of her, Enteria, and the universe as a whole, Horde Prime.

Basically the former victims/abusers Hordak and Catra took down the greatest evil in the universe, their now shared abuser Prime, with the abuse breaker Adora/She-ra.

Hordak's main absolution of the abusive and self destructive cycle he is trapped in comes from the abuse breaker Adora/She-ra.

Catra's main absolution of the abusive and self destructive cycle she is trapped in comes from the abuse breaker Adora/She-ra.

You see a pattern?

THEY ARE THE SAME CHARACTER.

Yet Catra/Catradora is raised to the heavens while Hordak/Entrapdak is vilified as irredeemable and disgusting.

Why?

What is the true reason for the fandom discourse between two mirrors?

Because one being a war criminal,conqueror,killer can't REALLY be it since they are BOTH those things.

That brings me to my next point.

THE TRUTH.

The real reason for the toxic,hypocritical Catra(Cartadora) vs Hordak (Entrapdak) discourse is because the fans of the former seem to think that if the heterosexual ship of the latter becomes too popular it will overtake the lesbian one.

Bow and Glimmer don't seem to register in this hate since they have never been a popularity threat to Catradora.

I'm not sure why gay and straight fans of these characters can't peacefully coexist,but then again I admit I don't have shipper googles glued to my face so that might be a factor...

Realistically they both should be in prison or death row.

You BOTH stan and ship war criminals.

One with their victim(who is unfortunately the heroic protagonist of the show), and the other with an amoral scientist who is also a war criminal.

To be fair I do realize that there is one proviso between the two.

Hordak DIDN’T physically or mentally abuse his love interest.

Catra DID physically and mentally abuse her love interest.

It's hypocritically ridiculous that every time someone gives a laundry list of how evil Hordak is,and why Entrapdak should go to hell because of him, you can take that same exact list and put Catra's name to it with ease.

It’s just Catra's evil gets ignored or white washed because canon lesbian, attractive catgirl go purrrr.

The dissociative disconnect is just out of this world.

Just say that the real reason for the hate is heterosexual popularity vs gay popularity and be done.

#catradora #entrapdak #anti catradora #anti entrapdak #catra #hordak #anti catra #anti hordak #spop critical #rank hypocrisy

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fantasyraindrps · 4 years

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Anti Catra/Catradora

This series has always felt like the Catra Show, and so much so that even Hordak never felt like the main villain. And nothing drove that point home more than season five proving once and for all that this series moral line(or lack there of) is REALLY about a Villain Protagonist when the character that increasingly became a MONSTER for FOUR SEASONS still got everything she wanted in the end.

Catra is the poster child for the moral bankruptcy of this series.

I can't buy her ''redemption,'' or her relationship with Adora, because she WENT TO FAR.

Therefore nor can I buy the HYPOCRITICAL mental gymnastics that arise when she is a topic of discussion in the fandom.

For four seasons I watched this character WILLINGLY and GLEEFULLY jump rope with the moral event horizon. She eventually finally broke it to the pieces when she deliberately GENOCIDES everyone on the PLANET, because of her sick,evil obsession with being better than Adora.

Loved all this time my behind.

Catra was a vile person from her introduction, and just got increasingly more poisonous as the show went on.

Season Five wants us to treat Catra like a bad friend that said a few mean words here and there, and therefore all she has to do is sincerely apologize then friendship can begin again.

Here's the thing Catra wasn't just a bad friend, but also an ABUSER and a FASCIST.

She had multiple opportunities to leave the horde,and had no reason to stay in the first place, gleefully attacks the resistance, is the reason Angela died, tried straight up multiple times to end Adora’s and her friends lives, and was just an abomination to even the ones on her side....

On the flip side we have Adora who doesn’t give a damn about Catra for four seasons. She’s too busy enjoying life with her REAL friends. Try and recall, was there ever a moment where Adora was...concerned for Catra’s safety? Pining for her in any way romantically? Ever? Even once during the first four? Because I don’t. Honestly Catra wasn’t important to Adora until Catra showed up on screen. And then they both wanted to kill each other. Any moments of Adora thinking about Catra it was in the context of Catra being her ENEMY.

But I'm supposed to believe in their romance based on what?

Catra's toxicity? Adora's nonexistent romantic feelings for pretty much the entire series?

In season 5 all Catra had to do was one act of atonement and out of nowhere, like Adora has been possessed by the ghost of Queer Rep, she suddenly can’t get Catra out of her head. Also note Catra didn't save Glimmer because she realized her past actions were evil; no it was all for Adora's sake i.e. the person she is toxically obsessed with.

Back to Catra, her redemption is handled with the most condescending of kid gloves. It’s like she was replaced by a clone for season five. She’s just accepted. It's like seasons 1-4 didn't happen. The forgiveness was excessive and forced so we could be okay with this ABUSER / WAR CRIMINAL being chummy and romantic with her victims.

For example Glimmer cries over her, hugs her, kisses her cheek etc... Yet Catra is responsible for her MOTHER’S DEATH, the WORLD ENDING once before, trying to KILL her, war crimes against Bright Moon/HER KINGDOM...

Then Entrapta also forgives Catra like it’s nothing even though she sent HER TO DIE, and apparently she was in this hell space for a YEAR.

Same with Scorpia who forgives Catra's toxicity in five seconds.

But everything is suppose to be wonderful because an ABUSER ends the series ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH HER VICTIM?

When Adora said you made your choice now live with it THAT should have been the end of any reconciliation either platonic of romantic.

Even her flashbacks are her being abusive. You see her in one of them( in her so called redemption season at that) SCRATCHING Adora's FACE to the point it left BLOOD,and JUMPING ON HER STOMACH just because Adora DARED to be friends with other people.

This was pretty much every childhood flashback they showed.

She would emotionally and physically abuse Adora, and then Adora would take her back.

This would continue even as near adults. It was a PATTERN(red flag) that Adora unfortunately didn't escape.

But.....I always loved you,says Catra.

For ADORA'S own mental health/closure she could forgive,but only if she also makes it clear that she doesn't want her abuser/war criminal ex friend back in her life.

I could have tolerated that ending instead of Adora becoming a COUPLE with her ABUSER.

Basically this villain sue ends the show getting everything she wants even after evil manipulation of several characters, genocide, war crimes against her own people, repeated attempts at murder,physical and mental abuse(especially toward Adora), and just being a complete psychopath to anyone within spitting distance of her toxicity.

She gets to be pretty much a abusive scum bucket for four seasons, on top of ACTUALLY DOING THE SAME THING PRIME WANTED TO DO, yet whiplash forgiveness and Lesbians 4 Evah is her ending.

"So we're all just okay with this?", says Mermista incredulously of the war criminal Hordak.

Good question,but then I remember you all seem to be okay with war criminal Catra who is pretty much Hordak's parallel soo ....

Her mirror Hordak, according to the showrunner, is sentenced to beast island for his war crimes. However, my question then becomes where is Catra's sentence? Oh, that's right if you're the creator’s pet you get to be a war criminal in peace.

It's also convenient that Mermista was chipped,and therefore didn't get to say anything to the girl who helped bring down her kingdom with a smile on her face.

Funny how that worked out.

It's even more convenient that her victims gave their lighting fast forgiveness.

Can't have icky things like abuse and war crimes get in the way of that ending smooch you know.

I suppose we also just need to look at Angella as collateral damage while we smile as her daughter hugs and kisses her killer I guess.

I also find it odd(since were loving abusers and war criminals) that Shadow Weaver point blank doesn't get forgiveness from Adora, and she even ends the series dead. However, she defected to the hero’s side in season two(regardless of any impure motivation), and stayed there and helped the protagonists until her season five death. But Catra, who not only stayed with the conquering organization the Horde for almost the entire series as well as eventually becoming their LEADER, was not only forgiven but also rewarded a romance with her victim. Curious.

I'm tired of this abominable trope invading every piece of media. An antagonist crosses the moral event horizon, and some even break it to pieces, but somehow the story gets selective amnesia and thus they are free to join the protagonists with their numerous sick crimes ignored or a sob story is bsed into a justification onto why we should ignore physical and emotional abuse and/or the numerous bodies piled up.

When you don't have a moral LINE in your narrative then that means you have already made a mockery out of morality and numerous victims.

The only way I can stomach her season five ‘’redemption’’, and lighting quick forgiveness, is if I forget the monster of four seasons didn't exist.

Problem is I can't do that.

Why should I get any catharsis that the protagonists prevailed over Horde Prime when you have two characters in particular(Hordak,Catra) that are pretty much him with a sob story attached. If THEY get to kumbaya with the hero's then Prime should to because that's honestly where the morals are at in this story.

I had to stop watching two shows(Vampire Diaries and Once Upon a Time) because I got tired of this sick trope. There were SEASONS worth of whitewashing and selective amnesia for two sick and evil characters(Damien Savatore and Regina), to the point their VICTIMS became their BIGGEST CHEERLEADERS and LOVE INTERESTS.

There is no justice when this vile trope is in play.

The moral event horizon exists for a reason. It means once a character has jumped over it then there should be no moral way they can come back from it. Humanizing them is a good narrative choice,but that humanization doesn't and SHOULDN'T erase their heinous crimes.

Thus the only true ending that moral event horizon characters should get are redemption equals death or thanks for growing a conscious and helping us out, but you're STILL going to prison for life afterwards kay. They don't get to kumbaya with their victims while the other one's, THE DEAD BODIES, stay cold.

But you know if I HAD to I COULD have TOLERATED Catra and Hordak going on an atonement journey so they could help the people still living that they made homeless/ lives they ruined. Also they can do this while they both get the therapy they badly need.

I needed CONSEQUENCES that STUCK.

Instead Catra (ADORA'S ABUSER) gets to make out with Adora(HER VICTIM), and also become her girlfriend. She also becomes the best friend of her other victims.

So it seems this show's message is no matter how much emotional and physical pain a person does to you it's okay to not only let them back in your life(damn your mental health I guess),but it’s also fine to enter a romantic relationship with them as well.

Yes, that's what children need to see.

It's also hilarious that some of her fans say she's Zuko.

No.

She's what would happen if Azula and Kylo Ren were made into one character.

I did my research on the show runner, and the creators pet/villain sue bias became clearer.

Catra is HER, and Adora is her wife.

That explains EVERYTHING, and not in a good way.

What the show's title should actually be called:

She-Ra:The Story of a Villain Sue Antagonist,War Criminal Abuser,That Gets a Happily Ever After With Her Victim; Whom She Emotionally and Physically Abused for Four Seasons.

Another alternate:

She-Ra: The Story of Lesbian Reylo.

#catradora #anti catradora #catra #anti catra #spop season five #spop #shera confessions #spop critical #anti c//a #western magical girl confessions #adora deserved better than to end up in a romantic relationship with her abuser

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