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One of the main reasons I don't think Renee was originally intended to be terrible IS the fact that the miracle wonder baby is named after her.
Think about it: in the original Twilight, Renee's just kind of flightly. But she canonically tells Bella she doesn't have to exile herself to Forks and if she changes her mind, "You can come home whenever you want―I'll come right back as soon as you need me." She's emailing Bella pretty regularly ("Write me as soon as you get in. Tell me how your flight was. Is it raining? I miss you already. I'm almost finished packing for Florida, but I can't find my pink blouse. Do you know where I put it? Phil says hi. Mom.") and calls when Bella's emails sound 'off.' She shows up at the end when Bella's in the hospital. Sure there's the stuff about "lol Bella's been paying the bills since she was 10" but that could be hyperbole (that's how I originally read it). She's eccentric and forgetful but Bella calls her her best friend and she seems attentive and loving.
Forever Dawn was the original sequel to Twilight that was eventually reworked into Breaking Dawn to account (somewhat) for the stuff that happened in New Moon and Eclipse. The baby was always named Renesmee. She was named that before New Moon or Eclipse existed.
I genuinely think Renee got retconned somewhere along the line. Starts with Eclipse when she doesn't show up for Bella's graduation because of Phil's broken leg (although I still feel like this is mostly an Author Choice -- Bella and Renee already had their moment on Bella's trip to Florida, SM didn't feel like writing another one -- rather than a Character Choice), but accelerates in Life & Death (where Beau and Charlie basically say Renee needed custody because she couldn't care for herself) and Midnight Sun (where she's pretty much canonically a neglectful narcissist with a latent power to get people to do things for her).
But I don't think SM would have named the baby RENEsmeE if Renee had always been intended to be this narcissistic nightmare. I think SM's ideas about Renee changed as she kept writing but that originally she was just the quirky extroverted mom that the serious introverted daughter loved but didn't understand.
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Dakota Fanning and Andrew Scott for ELLE (2024)
The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 (2012)
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GOTTMIK as PAL • drag race all stars 9.03 snatch game
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GOTTMIK • drag race all stars 9.03 banana lipsync
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GOTTMIK • drag race all stars 9.03 a tail and 2 titties runway
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You know, he likes her better without all that makeup on
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She's not going to be "Renesmee" in public, right?
I mean, the Cullens are supposed to 'blend in.' Giving your child a one-of-a-kind name is not conducive to that. I suppose they didn't know she was going to be immortal but it wouldn't be a bad idea to assume she may be and consider that when choosing a name? It's the one time they could have made a strategic, thoughtful choice about it.
Which, again, Elizabeth is right there. For Edward's human mother whose plea made Edward and Bella meeting possible in the first place, and for Elizabeth Bennet from Pride and Prejudice. It's got a million nicknames that can fit any vibe or aesthetic you want. It makes so much sense. It feels so in character. It matches the other Cullen names, especially Alice, Edward and Isabella (which is essentially the same name as Elizabeth, btw, so 'Elizabeth' could also be honoring Bella, which I think Edward would love!).
'Renesmee' is always going to stick out. She's gotta be going by Ren/Wren or Nessie (tells people it's short for Vanessa) or Carlie or something in public, right?
The Cullens were never very good at blending in as written, but 'old fashioned' grandparent names don't stick out in quite the same way. 'Renesmee' is unique and memorable in a way that's not great for secrecy. I still remember people from my school days who had interesting names.
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20. Movie
Finally, an excuse to draw Wilmon in a Ghibli film, thanks @youngroyals-events
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Renesmee is partially named after Esme and yet they have no meaningful interactions in the book or movie.
We're told Renesmee sometimes sleeps in Esme's arms, but we don't see it. The only thing we really have is Nessie playing with Esme's second best set of silverware while everyone watches her.
When the Cullens leave to find witnesses, Rosalie blows Renesmee a kiss. Esme only says goodbye to Bella and Edward.
Carlisle put his hand on Edward's shoulder for a second and then kissed my forehead. Esme hugged us both, and Emmett punched us both on the arm. Rosalie forced a hard smile for Edward and me, blew a kiss to Renesmee, and then gave Jacob a parting grimace.
The only reference to 'grandma' in the books is to Grandma Swan's hair combs Bella wears at the wedding.
What's up with this? Is this just a function of the Bella-centric writing in which Esme is an afterthought? Or is this an in-universe thing where Esme and Nessie legitimately aren't close?
Likewise Charlie gets to be 'grandpa' and Carlisle's role seems more like 'doctor,' with him taking measurements and trying to get her to drink baby formula.
"Her diet… well, she prefers to drink blood. Carlisle continues to try to persuade her to drink some baby formula, too, but she doesn't have much patience with it. Can't say that I blame her – nasty-smelling stuff, even for human food."
I know fanfic and headcanons are often filled with sweet moments between Nessie and her Cullen grandparents but the text (and movie) isn't. Part of me wonders if it's because Charlie is Nessie's biological grandparent and Esme and Carlisle aren't. That whole "Edward and Bella have a REAL family" vs the found family of the larger Cullen clan.
Discuss.
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#so one is romantic and the other isn't because...? 🧐🧐🧐
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