Breaking News: Carson's dreams come true

Erin and Chad Paine's 6th baby will be a boy due to arrive in December of 2023.

WTF. Tonight I was watching House MD and guess who made an appearance.

Erin & chads new video @ 8:17.. “I’ve been praying for Lawson and Tiffany’s kid” guess they didn’t mind spoiling that announcement for them LOL

Anon #1: Yeah… I thought that was pretty bad. It’s possible they’re praying for Lawson & Tiffany to be able to have a child / get pregnant, maybe, but I suspect that’s not the case and they straight up spoiled the announcement because they are careless. We’ll find out soon enough.

Anon #2: Yes, I also thought that was so weird! They were definitely pre–announcing and even said it would be in People and then… Crickets. Not sure what’s up with that.

Joy is 39 Weeks Along

Her Due Date is May 23, 2023. Forsyth #3 Baby Watch!

It’s #6! Don’t forget Finley.

Y’all…. How??

She must have magical ovaries.

I’m sorry, WTF? How?!

Joy is 38 Weeks Along

Her Due Date is May 23, 2023. Forsyth #3 Baby Watch!

Forsyth #3 is "Term," As of Today!

Joy + Austin's 3rd Child is due on May 23, 2023. As of today, Joy is 37 Weeks Along—and thus, "early term." She could deliver anytime.

Forsyth #3 Baby Watch!

Is it possible or is it fake

I think this is probably real, but who knows.

Lydia’s Due Date is September 26, 2023.

Lydia posted this ultrasound to her Instagram today. You can see on the upper left that the Gestational Age is listed as 12 Weeks, 0 Days. Then, in the top right, you can see the scan date… March 14, 2023. Doing the math, she’s due on September 26, 2023.

Webster #5 is "Term," As of Today!

Alyssa (Bates) Webster is due w/ Baby #5 on April 3, 2023. So... As of today, she is 37 Weeks Along ("early term")!

You know what that means... Webster #5 Baby Watch!

Jackson Bates, 21, engaged to Emerson Wells, 19, after being in a relationship for less than a year.

Due in Late September.

And the Big NewsTM is….Lydia is pregnant!

Just to piggyback off this, the situations where D&Cs are restricted by anti–choice laws tend to be situations where the pregnancy is not viable, but there is still technically a heartbeat. This can occur due an to incompetent cervix, severe birth defects, and other reasons. In such cases, there’s no chance the pregnancy will go to term or the baby will live; however, because the fetus’s heart hasn’t actually stopped yet, the pregnancy could be still be considered to be ongoing, under anti–choice laws. This is obviously idiotic, but it’s not just that. It’s also horrifying for the woman that’s going through it. If the doctor isn’t sure that the fetus is considered “deceased,” by law, they may be hesitant or unwilling to recommend a D&C. Why would a woman want to get a D&C, rather than allowing the fetus to pass “naturally”? Well, because miscarrying “naturally” can be painful, can result in complications like infection (which can be dangerous, even fatal), and is often very emotionally traumatic. So, in many cases, D&C is the standard of care. But, if there’s a heartbeat, it might also be illegal, since it’s stupidly lumped in with “abortions” under hastily–passed, post–Roe state laws that either didn’t consider or straight–up didn’t care about the consequences for these exact sort of situations. Yes, some of those post–Roe laws allow exceptions for cases where the woman’s life is in danger. But in these cases, the process of miscarrying “naturally” rather than having a D&C is not usually life threatening, it’s just needlessly painful, traumatic, etc.—and, as a result, the exception doesn’t apply. (Note the use of “usually.” There are cases where failure to provide a D&C during a miscarriage has resulted in death, and that risk—however small—is one of the reasons this entire situation is so horrifying. Such cases show that things can turn quickly, and doctors might be too afraid to act in time to save the woman’s life.)

This entire topic is interesting and worth further discussion; however, I don’t really see a connection to Jessa’s case. Based on what she has said, Jessa had a D&C after the fetus’s heart stopped. I’m not personally aware of any state in which such a procedure would be considered an abortion, legally speaking. If there’s no heartbeat, there’s no pregnancy, and therefore anti–choice laws don’t restrict D&C care in such a case… In fact, in Arkansas, the law explicitly states that a D&C to remove a deceased fetus is not, legally–speaking, an “abortion”—

Just in case it’s not clear, I personally oppose all efforts to restrict a woman’s right to choose. I’m of the firm belief that a woman should have the right to end her pregnancy safely for any reason, at any time, and I oppose any law that restricts that right.

Help me understand the Jessa thing.... (forgive my ignorance) she got a D&C for a miscarriage, I know Erin did years ago too. It is a procedure that can be used for a miscarriage or abortion. It is a big deal, because some antiabortion legislature prevents them?

(cw: abortion and death)

To the first ask, yes, that's essentially it. The most conservative reproductive care bills in America seek to make procedures like D&Es or D&Cs extremely hard to get regardless of the situation, and they can be prosecutable by law if performed by doctors in what the law considers the 'wrong' situation (and the law is often vague and convoluted). So even if say, a woman needs an immediate D&C because of miscarriage complications, some doctors are so scared of being prosecuted that they'll contact their lawyers or law enforcement to make sure they won't be prosecuted for performing it. Women in Jessa's exact position have already died from said legislation while waiting for D&C or D&E approvals.

Jessa as a conservative evangelical has made it clear that she supports legislation that eliminates women's abilities to get elective/non-life-threatening abortions in basically all cases, and those are usually the exact same pieces of legislation that seek to severely limit women's access to *any* kind of abortion, even in the case of a miscarriage and complications. I don't know everything about Arkansas abortion laws but from the looks of it, it's likely her doctor would've probably checked with a legal consultant to perform her D&C because of the restrictive abortion laws unless she was literally dying on the table in front of them (and again even in those situations, doctors have waited to get legal confirmation which has resulted in the death of the mother). So she is not only being willfully ignorant about the entire situation but cruel on top of it.

Abortion is a neutral medical term. A miscarriage is already a spontaneous abortion.

Technically, you’re right. Technically. Practically, it’s 100% not neutral, given its common use. I’d like to see you explain to a woman who has just had a ‘typical’ miscarriage that she has, in fact, actually had an “abortion.” See how that goes… Those who are insisting on saying Jessa had an “abortion” are not doing so for optimal medical and technical accuracy. They’re doing so to say that she had a procedure that she says she is against. They’re using it to show she’s a hypocrite. They’re using it in the political sense.